wannafbody
wannafbody
IME Zaino offers darn good protection. Sure it beads and water deposits may sit on the surface but heck, glass does the same thing and no one ever states that glass offers no protective ability:shocked
What product provides the best protection.....
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Old Tiger
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I have owmed seveeral ragtops. You need to worry more about the ragtop and seals than the paint. For these you cant beat 303 products IMO. Ragtop is good too. For paint Ultima Paint Guard Protection (UPGP) is a Wipe On Walk Away that is so easy to apply that you can finish a Mini in 10 minutes or less. Optimum Opti-Seal is similar to UPGP and comes from a great product line but I have not tried it. Optimum Car Wax is a great spray wax that is a Wipe On Wipe Off (WOWO) The FK High Temp or Duragloss TPP105 on top of their Polymer Bonding Agent is as durable as anything.
Cleaning Fool
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wannafbody said:
Have to agree.
a.k.a. Patrick
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What product provides the best protection.....?
Seriously, who cares. It might sound arrogant but lets dissolve this a bit. Some mention KSG, some mention 845. Truthfully, I hated KSG with a passion, it was too damn difficult to use. Im going to say it for the millionth time, if its not EASY to use, your not going to use it. Then what good does it do, if you dont apply it with frequency. Ive used $8.00 sealants, like DG 105 which is a 9 out of 10 in the user friendliness dept, and about a 7/10 for durability. Not THE best, but who cares when I can re-apply in about 15 minutes. Same with FS UPP, a 10/10 for friendliness, and about a 7/10 in durability. Both products applied quarterly (normal maintenance routines apply with frequent QD'ing and monthly spray waxes), using about .5 to .75 ounces per app will last you years of protection.
And that fresh, applied feeling lasts about the same time no matter what your using. Fresh is fresh only so long. Sealants are like Whiskeys, if they arent savory, why bother? Give me a $10-$30 bottle sealant, Im a happy man. (And I truthfully dare to compare vs. $50-$100 bottles, seriously)
Seriously, who cares. It might sound arrogant but lets dissolve this a bit. Some mention KSG, some mention 845. Truthfully, I hated KSG with a passion, it was too damn difficult to use. Im going to say it for the millionth time, if its not EASY to use, your not going to use it. Then what good does it do, if you dont apply it with frequency. Ive used $8.00 sealants, like DG 105 which is a 9 out of 10 in the user friendliness dept, and about a 7/10 for durability. Not THE best, but who cares when I can re-apply in about 15 minutes. Same with FS UPP, a 10/10 for friendliness, and about a 7/10 in durability. Both products applied quarterly (normal maintenance routines apply with frequent QD'ing and monthly spray waxes), using about .5 to .75 ounces per app will last you years of protection.
And that fresh, applied feeling lasts about the same time no matter what your using. Fresh is fresh only so long. Sealants are like Whiskeys, if they arent savory, why bother? Give me a $10-$30 bottle sealant, Im a happy man. (And I truthfully dare to compare vs. $50-$100 bottles, seriously)
imported_01GreyStangGT1
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Another vote for the Collinites and I also am like Werkstat AJT
Dan
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wfedwar said:
I had the same thing happen on a few cars, it took lots of compound to get the spots out, and I had to leave a few of them because they were so deep.
imported_smprince1
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a.k.a. Patrick said:
Seriously, probably the thread starter who asked the question. :think: :lol
a.k.a. Patrick said:
I agree with you, KSG is very finicky to use and the products you mention are an order of magnitude easier to work with. IMO the UPP you mention also happens to look a lot better. However, the question asked specifically about protection, ... and IME the acrylics work very well for protection. I like AJ/AJT too, but for some reason I find layered KSG still seems to protect better than anything else I've tried.
Just my 2 cents .... YRMV :hifive:
yakky said:
Exact same experience with me. I had terrible water spots on my F150 and on my 4runner. The 4runner was too deep to correct. The F150 took some compounding, but those came out. I've owned both for about five years and only saw this while using Zaino. Before that they wore Klasse (no problems) and after that they wore Werkstat and sometimes Collinite or Blackfire.
imported_Satinsilver
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Old Tiger said:
a.k.a. Patrick said:
Patrick,
Are you using the bonding agent(#601) prior to using the DG 105? According to DG the durability will be doubled if the 601 is used. After applying the 601(no need to buff) go right to the 105.
I must agree with Patrick.. If it's difficult to use, you won't use it.. I hated it too and threw it away..
I love spray waxes, UPP and NXT.. In the winter I also sometimes just use my PW to get 90% of the dirt off, water spots are not so bad from the water I have any way.. I wash normally once a week though..
I love spray waxes, UPP and NXT.. In the winter I also sometimes just use my PW to get 90% of the dirt off, water spots are not so bad from the water I have any way.. I wash normally once a week though..
Thomas Dekany
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FK1 #1000 - longest protection in my experience. Looks excellent as well. The ONLY wax I use on our cars in this Oregon weather. (both cars now sit outside 24/7)
a.k.a. Patrick
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Satinsilver said:
No I dont regularly. Just the 105 or the UPP. Ive used the 601 once or twice but really wasnt sold on it. If your findings are different, its still a superb deal for both at under $20.00.
Rob Tomlin
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tdekany said:
Have you compared it to Collinite 915 by chance? These two products seem very similar to me, but I can't speak to the durability of the 915 yet.
Thomas Dekany
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Rob Tomlin said:
Never tried 915. I just can't believe how well 1000 protects. Still slick, after a lot of rain.
Dan
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It would be interesting to start this thread with "What product provides the best protection, and how long you have been using it"
I get the feel that a lot of people are weighing in with opinions based on some rather short tests. To me, if you've been using it less than two years, your opinion isn't worth much. I'm not trying to single anyone out, but there just hasn't been a lot of basis posted for the stated opinions.
I get the feel that a lot of people are weighing in with opinions based on some rather short tests. To me, if you've been using it less than two years, your opinion isn't worth much. I'm not trying to single anyone out, but there just hasn't been a lot of basis posted for the stated opinions.
Thomas Dekany
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yakky said:
What is the 2 years for?
I have been using #1000 for many years on my and client's cars. The most was 8 months on an outside Rover and the paint was still protected. However the owner wanted another full detail.
Once the weather is wash friendly, I'll do another video and post it to show how 1000 is doing on the van.
I'll take the pepsi challange against any other lsp minus the Optimum X.
Dan
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wfedwar said:
Yep, totally agree with you, water beading does not equal paint protection.
Dan
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tdekany said:
To form an opinion on how well it actually protects the paint from the environment. I can polish a car and leave it be for a year with regular washing and it will still look great. For me, it takes a few years to really say yay or nay on a LSP from the standpoint of protection. As mentioned above, people think because its beading water, its protected. Lots of people think brand X is great and they park indoors. A couple of years without waterspots, bird bombs, and acid rain spots, and I'd say you have a winner.