Optimum No Rinse Wash and Shine.

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ABS

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Hi Guys,



my 1st time using this product and will like to ask some qns about Optimum No Rinse Wash and Shine



i use it with a Microfiber Chenille Weave Mitt With Thumb. i notice that my wash mitt is far dirtier than if i use it with conventional car shampoo.



i had problem cleaning the wash mitt in between the panels. ie after i wash the top, i tried to rinse and scrub off the dirt from the mitt before going to other panels. But dirt doesn't come off as easy as while using car shampoo. :wall :wall :hairpull :hairpull

my wash mitt is "blacker" than usual. i'm afraid the dirt might scratch my car paint. :scared: :scared:



Anyone here have similar problems? any advice?



Thanks
 
ABS said:
Hi Guys,



my 1st time using this product and will like to ask some qns about Optimum No Rinse Wash and Shine



i use it with a Microfiber Chenille Weave Mitt With Thumb. i notice that my wash mitt is far dirtier than if i use it with conventional car shampoo.



i had problem cleaning the wash mitt in between the panels. ie after i wash the top, i tried to rinse and scrub off the dirt from the mitt before going to other panels. But dirt doesn't come off as easy as while using car shampoo. :wall :wall :hairpull :hairpull

my wash mitt is "blacker" than usual. i'm afraid the dirt might scratch my car paint. :scared: :scared:



Anyone here have similar problems? any advice?



Thanks
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One question for you how was the rinse water.... was it dirty at all or pretty clean ? I have used this stuff a few times and QEW and had some marring issue with this stuff yesterday. the rinse water was not that dirty, all the dirt stayed in my mitt. when I noticed the marring I went in and washed my mitt with Woolite then rinsed my mitt, well let's just say it was dirty :furious: have to admit I may be going back to QEW. I am going to give it another go using some deep pile MF'S or a sheepskin mitt after work today. maybe the MF'S will release the dirt better ? what is everybody using to wash with? trying to stay positive about this stuff but if you saw the marring on my truck :hairpull another thing about using the MF'S is that I am going to have four in my wash bucket, figuring that once one is dirty, leave it in the rinse bucket and pick up another clean one while the first one is letting the dirt fall out of the micrfober. I am hoping that my issue was my mitt was totaled and needs to be sent to wheel cleaning duty.
 
flatstick said:
One question for you how was the rinse water.... was it dirty at all or pretty clean ? I have used this stuff a few times and QEW and had some marring issue with this stuff yesterday. the rinse water was not that dirty, all the dirt stayed in my mitt. when I noticed the marring I went in and washed my mitt with Woolite then rinsed my mitt, well let's just say it was dirty :furious: have to admit I may be going back to QEW. I am going to give it another go using some deep pile MF'S or a sheepskin mitt after work today. maybe the MF'S will release the dirt better ? what is everybody using to wash with? trying to stay positive about this stuff but if you saw the marring on my truck :hairpull another thing about using the MF'S is that I am going to have four in my wash bucket, figuring that once one is dirty, leave it in the rinse bucket and pick up another clean one while the first one is letting the dirt fall out of the micrfober. I am hoping that my issue was my mitt was totaled and needs to be sent to wheel cleaning duty.
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looks like there's a few of use here with the same problem... i just hope some of guys here can help to advice use what to do... i'm also trying to stay positive about this product... heard so much about it...

this will make it so easy to wash car! :xyxthumbs

coupled with the OCW,

wash and wax in just an hour!!! :clap: :clap: :woohoo: :woohoo:



so really hope to find the correct method to use this optimum product.
 
I won the Optimum NRWS contest over on DC. I have a 32 ounce bottle on the way. Based on all of the great reviews I can't wait to try this stuff out... :thx
 
Pats300zx said:
I won the Optimum NRWS contest over on DC. I have a 32 ounce bottle on the way. Based on all of the great reviews I can't wait to try this stuff out... :thx
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Congrats on winning the contest, it is always good to get free stuff. If you need more I may have some for you as this stuff is not exactly proving better than QEW so far. have to admit I can not even look at the marring on my truck without getting disgusted :wall right now I just feel like dumping this crap . I used the same everything as QEW, maybe twice the strength ? if I need to double up on the amount of mixture used how can this stuff be better. just can not get over the fact that mitt remained dirty, do I need a new mitt, use more than one mitt , change to MF'S instead ? sorry to be negative but if you truck looked as bad as mine you would be ready to dump it as well :bolt never had such marring in my life anytime I have ever washed a car or truck. could it be this wash is defective ? what would you do ?
 
I use 1 sams MF with QEW. I add some QD to the mix.



I fold it over in half and use that whole surface. One pass per side, flip. I get 4 passes before I put it in the rinse bucket, I agitate it, then place it back in the QEW bucket while I dry the area.
 
gmblack3a said:
I use 1 sams MF with QEW. I add some QD to the mix.



I fold it over in half and use that whole surface. One pass per side, flip. I get 4 passes before I put it in the rinse bucket, I agitate it, then place it back in the QEW bucket while I dry the area.
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Sounds like a plan. guess what really got me pissed was that I have been doing great using QEW with the same method on three trucks and no problems at all. why the problems now. is my mitt shot ? I wash it in Woolite every time I am done. I folded the mitt in half and take a little swipe, use the other side for another swipe then do the same on the other side. I also never go over the area twice unless I rinse the mitt out well and reload on wash.
 
flatstick said:
Sounds like a plan. guess what really got me pissed was that I have been doing great using QEW with the same method on three trucks and no problems at all. why the problems now. is my mitt shot ? I wash it in Woolite every time I am done. I folded the mitt in half and take a little swipe, use the other side for another swipe then do the same on the other side. I also never go over the area twice unless I rinse the mitt out well and reload on wash.
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My guess would be your mit. Try it with a MF or another mit and see what happens.
 
gmblack3a said:
My guess would be your mit. Try it with a MF or another mit and see what happens.
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I would agree that it seems the mitt is the issue. will try the MF route today and a new chenille mitt I have and see how it goes. guess what got me is I had used the new wash on my black Jimmy and took 20 minutes with no issues at all.
 
I've had absolutely no marring whatsoever with either QEW or No Rinse Wash. I use the chenille covered foam pads and wash them after every couple of cars. Are you sure there is marring or is it drying streaks?



This is a BMW 325 I did the other day using No Rinse and a chenille covered foam pad. You can see how well it cleans and there was no marring at all that I could see.



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[quote name='Scottwax']I've had absolutely no marring whatsoever with either QEW or No Rinse Wash. I use the chenille covered foam pads and wash them after every couple of cars. Are you sure there is marring or is it drying streaks?



This is a BMW 325 I did the other day using No Rinse and a chenille covered foam pad. You can see how well it cleans and there was no marring at all that I could see.



I have had the same sucess with the QEW and Optimum ( only 2 times ) on my black Jimmy. that is what is puzzling me. is the clear on the Chevy TB that soft ? I have a chenille covered sponge but seemed that if I folded the chenille mitt I got better results. it looks like marring ( very fine scratches) that at the right angle in the sun ( can only be seen in the sun) can be seen from 10 feet away as the finish does have a distorted look on the lower rocker panels. I could only make this out on the side that was in the sun. on the shaded side I could not tell even up close. should I try some Z6 on the area to be sure it is marring ? Will have to see if I can get a few pics this week. my wife has the TB today and tomorrow and gets home after dark. any help figuring out what the heck went wrong this time would be appreciated. I even pretreated the area with a sprayer.... sprayer had some left over ( small amount ) of QEW in it from the last time I used it .the wash seems slicker and glides over the surface easier and that is what shocked me yesterday when I was done. leave it to me to run into this issue :LOLOL
 
Sullybob said:
Scott what brand of chenille covered foam pad are you using?
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The Meguiars or Vroom. Very soft but you need to wash them before using or they will lint. I have a feeling they are both made by the same manufacturer. Both feel, look and perform exactly the same.



flatstick are you sure the problem is marring or drying streaks? If you use two towels, one for the first drying pass and a second to remove any remaining moisture, if the first pass completely dries the panel, wiping it again with a dry towel will cause streaks. If QDing takes care of the problem, then it was most likely drying streaks.



And yes, some paint is soft. I have to use my softest towels to wash my own car. The terry cloth towels I use for my first drying pass don't mar anyone else's paint but mines. I have to use the Detailer's Paradise Monster Fluffy MF towel on my car.
 
flatstick are you sure the problem is marring or drying streaks? If you use two towels, one for the first drying pass and a second to remove any remaining moisture, if the first pass completely dries the panel, wiping it again with a dry towel will cause streaks. If QDing takes care of the problem, then it was most likely drying streaks.



And yes, some paint is soft. I have to use my softest towels to wash my own car. The terry cloth towels I use for my first drying pass don't mar anyone else's paint but mines. I have to use the Detailer's Paradise Monster Fluffy MF towel on my car.[/QUOTE]







Well Scott here are some pics from today with the Optimum wash and using deep pile MF'S for the wash .what do you think ?the first pic is not for the faint of heart lol ! keep in mind this was just a test and I was not done with the wash but wanted to grab some pics for everybody as I was washing. did not even take complete after shots. will have to do a QD on the TB in a couple of days and see what happens. have to admit it looked like marring but I will do a wipedown to make sure. the pics are nothing special but can give people an idea of how it works as far as cleaning goes.







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I have never really used QEW or the No Rinse in the way many of you do but when I do wash I use a deep sea sponge, the very large ones. These release all dirt particles when squeezed in my wash bucket.



Why don't you try that instead of these mitts and towels that may harbor grit? That would be my suggestion to reduce marring.



Anthony
 
flatstick-no lighting in the pics to show if there was any marring or not. Definitely pushing the limits of No Rinse or QEW with how dirty your truck was though.
 
I don't know about No Rince, I have not tried it yet, but I have used QEW and what Scottwax implied is correct. How dirty is the vehicle being washed? From my experience with QEW, lots of problems can happen with marring, dirty towels and mits that won't come clean or release dirty, etc. But those problems only happen when my truck is too far gone for a "qucik and easy wash". If there is more than a little road grime it is time to take out the hose. Although I don't live where salt is used, I would think winter clean ups where there is sand and salt build up is just too much to ask of any QEW type product.



I have not been into this hobby very long but I have found that a QD works best when my truck is clean; a California Duster once over if it is dusty from sitting overnight; Poorboys S&W if it needs a touch up from driving on a good day or light rain and QEW if it is anything more severe than that but less than grime, mud and sand, at which time the shampoo comes out.
 
Scottwax said:
flatstick-no lighting in the pics to show if there was any marring or not. Definitely pushing the limits of No Rinse or QEW with how dirty your truck was though.
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You really think that would be too much to ask of QEW or Optimum no rinse? the rear of the truck was a lot worse than the rest. I use a garden sprayer with 1.5 oz solution to a gallon of water to loosen up the dirt on all the panels before I wash. I used a gallon of solution from the sprayer while washing. the pics were not that great as far as lighting goes I was more interested to see what eveybody's thoughts were as far as the dirt level and how the product cleaned. BTW this was 4 days after I last washed it :eek: this is as dirty as it gets in the winter, summer I can use a duster or some QD. the road and parking lot where I work seems to be where I pick up all the salt etc. the TB was not as bad as the Jimmy was the other day. I could go to the local car wash and low pressure rinse the finish before OPT if it is this dirty but would that be a better option ?
 
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