New Zaino Paint Cleanser

Tuan209 said:
so with this new zaino product there is no need for dawn? if i were to apply zaino on my car i would:



1.wash

2.clay

3.wash again? or go straight to the new zaino Z-PC?
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Wash again. You want to have a good clean surface.
 
Hey Shiny Lil Detlr,



Nice to see you on this board instead of the TBCentral board. Really interested in this cleaner and how it compares to SSR. Going to be ordering this cleaner plus Z2Pro and Z-8 and other supplies to restock my stash soon. Hopefully this cleaner will live up to the great expectations.
 
jauto98 said:
Hey Shiny Lil Detlr,



Nice to see you on this board instead of the TBCentral board. Really interested in this cleaner and how it compares to SSR. Going to be ordering this cleaner plus Z2Pro and Z-8 and other supplies to restock my stash soon. Hopefully this cleaner will live up to the great expectations.
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Hey, now there's a name I recognize! :wavey



I'm thinking this will be a better polish than the SSRs (Which I don't use due to cost in comparison with the Meguiars) simply because it has NO fillers in it from what I have read. I'm anxious to see if that's a good thing or a bad thing :bounce



Don't forget the ZFX in that order! :xyxthumbs
 
blkZ28Conv:

so would this new paint cleanser, along with the PorterCable I have coming, work well on light chips in the clear of my car's nose or will I need something a little more abrasive? I have a midnight blue G35 (Infiniti/Nissan has the thinnest paint I swear)



I have even though of moving away from Zaino and onto glazes because of Infiniti's thin paint
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
Jeez this thread exploded. Well needless to say, my order is in as well. Can't wait to try this stuff!



Then I'll be soon after bugging Sal for packaging in larger quantities. I'd love to be able to buy it 32oz at a time like I do my Meguiar's polishes if it turns out to do a better job. :up
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As much a the Z haters try, there is no other product line that causes this much excitment:bow
 
Escotch said:
so will this replace Z5?:
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I use Z5 for maintenence, so I dont have to strip down to the paint if I get minor scratching on the car from washing and general surroundings, even people accidently brushing past the car. Z5 is great for maintaining the condition of the detail without doing something drastic.:xyxthumbs



My order is in, just finished it !:bounce
 
Escotch said:
blkZ28Conv:

so would this new paint cleanser, along with the PorterCable I have coming, work well on light chips in the clear of my car's nose or will I need something a little more abrasive? I have a midnight blue G35 (Infiniti/Nissan has the thinnest paint I swear)



I have even though of moving away from Zaino and onto glazes because of Infiniti's thin paint
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Hi Escotch,

If you can feel the defect or it catches your fingernail, you need a more aggressive repair compound or possibly a cutting pad and Z-CP. I would use a cutting pad with a more aggressive compound and regain the luster with a polishing pad and Z-CP. Remember that depending on how aggressively you attack the blemish with the cutting pad and compound, the repair may require intermediate less aggressive compound phases prior to finishing with Z-CP.

Hope this helps.





Corey,

Z2-PRO, Z5 and Z2 or not polishes. Never have been outside of name only. They have never contain any type of abrasive, intelligent or stupid ;). They are pure protectants.



Z-CP is a true polish with abrasives (intelligent, hi-quality, real diminishing, hi-tech, etc :D). This product has no protective value. :wavey
 
Ordered my Z-PC and some more Z-8 yesterday. Got the tracking number today, and delivery is scheduled for tomorrow!:p



Looks like I'll be detailing my dad's truck this Sunday with the new Z-PC :woot:
 
i hate to sound like a total Noob...

but i dont have a PC yet, and i tried using Scratch-X by hand on my swirls with okay results.

do you think this would produce better results, since in the description it says it would equally work as well by hand? i have light to moderate swirls.

thanks.
 
big mike 13 said:
i hate to sound like a total Noob...

but i dont have a PC yet, and i tried using Scratch-X by hand on my swirls with okay results.

do you think this would produce better results, since in the description it says it would equally work as well by hand? i have light to moderate swirls.

thanks.
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Any product by hand is going to require moderate to extensive time and effort. I haven't directly compared the two products, so I can't answer definitively, but don't expect either to be simple.
 
Corey Bit Spank said:
"The ultra-intelligent abrasives gently and carefully knockdown high spots on your car to reveal an extremely smooth, super-reflective, mile-deep shine. "



That line made me laugh, only because I would have never throught to market car polish as "intelligent."
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This makes me laugh mainly because how does a "mild" polish "knockdown high spots on your car"??:nixweiss



Also, 8oz for $14!! For that price I would hope it lasts as long as 32oz polish.



Anthony
 
Yeah, it is even MORE expensive the 85RD and that spreads a long way too. I would like to see it available in at least a 16 oz. bottle.
 
Wow. How is this stuff any more """"intelligent"""" than any other polish? Zaino has a nice way of making things "gimmicky" and more complicated than they have to be. I guess it's just more targetted at basic consumers.
 
P21S GEPC - 8oz (~$10)



Klasse AIO - 10oz (~$17)



Pinnacle SMR - 16 oz - (~$18)





One would use this product in the same manner as the above products but will produce more blemish elimination than the above name products without the use of fillers and oils to mimic correction.

It would be a waste to use Z-PC for heavier blemishes (Menzerna IP for example a better choice).



Z-PC is perfectly compatible with the Zaino polishes. The missing link many compalined about and Zaino users dreamed about.



R&D in comparison to "generic tweeking" cost money.



Taking all aspects (performance (excellent for its range of blemish correction, range of application techniques, and ease of usage) and developement (over 2 years)) this is cheaper than I thought it would be. :nixweiss
 
pigeonbus said:
Wow. How is this stuff any more """"intelligent"""" than any other polish? Zaino has a nice way of making things "gimmicky" and more complicated than they have to be. I guess it's just more targetted at basic consumers.
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It is called creative writing. Sal could have just called it " Z-Tech next generation polish, or maybe Zaino Fusion with Nano polishing agents" or just plan Z-PC with "DNT"("New" Diminishing Polishing agent Technology). Maybe these would have been better for the basic consumer. Easily understandable and purchase stimulating catch-phrases that have been flooding the detailing world over the last several years. :nixweiss
 
Point is it is still considerably more than most paint cleanser on the market. im sure its a fantastic product, and alot of time and development was spent in making it. BUT who is to say other companies didnt spend as much or more time developing their own paint cleanser, and still be able to sell it less?



with that said im still going to try it out, but i do think zaino is on the expensive side.





blkZ28Conv said:
P21S GEPC - 8oz (~$10)



Klasse AIO - 10oz (~$17)



Pinnacle SMR - 16 oz - (~$18)





One would use this product in the same manner as the above products but will product more blemish elimination than the above products without the use of fillers and oils. It would be a waste to use for heavier blemishes (Menzerna IP a better choice).



Z-PC is perfectly compatible with the Zaino polishes.



R&D in comparison to generic tweeking cost money.



Taking all aspects (performance (excellent for its range of blemish correction) and developement (over 2 years)) this is cheaper than I thought it would be. :nixweiss
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I understand the desire to make a profit, I mean that's why people are in business, no foul there.



I also understand marketing but please explain, anyone, the use of "ultra intelligent" and also please explain the science behind "knocking down high spots" with a mild polish??



I believe this to be nothing but hype and and bad choice in marketing. In what shape or form are the polishing agents "ultra intelligent"? To claim that this is soley marketing is to then bring into question ALL claims made by Zaino in regards to their products. I use Menzerna PG and even as abrasive as it is it can't really "knock down high spots" on a cars paint so how can this Zaino polish do so? I believe these statements are incorrect, misguided and reflect poorly on the name Zaino. We'll most likely see them retracted after awhile.....unless of course their is real science behind them.



Now before anyone goes on a rant about me being anti-Zaino please note that I have the system at my disposal to use and I have used it in the past. My choice not to use it now is that I can do a car faster, cheaper material wise and get better results with other products. I believe that it does produce nice results but it is not cost effective.



If we wish to compare prices one can purchase 32oz of Optimum Polish for the same price....BUT......I also understand the concept of a "system". This is why I stated that if the 8oz can last as long as 32oz then Zaino's price is fair.



Anthony
 
Tuan209 said:
Point is it is still considerably more than most paint cleanser on the market. im sure its a fantastic product, and alot of time and development was spent in making it. BUT who is to say other companies didnt spend as much or more time developing their own paint cleanser, and still be able to sell it less?



with that said im still going to try it out, but i do think zaino is on the expensive side.
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I Agree but will still pay for it. Zaino is a great product. The company seems to be first class as well.



Hmmmm... i own my own business and I am more expensive than most of my competitors. My customers don't complain (at Least not to me about my pricing). I feel we deliver better customer interaction, cleanliness and on time start and completion.

Getting exactly what you want, when you want it with excellent service and quality @ slightly higher price = VALUE.



As the saying goes...........You get what you pay for!!! (Usually :o )
 
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