Meguiar's D151 opinions

Junebug said:
I used it with my PC and ended up getting rid of it after a horrible experience with a black VW Jetta. It looked good in the garage but looked like crap itself in the sun. My buddy down the road loves M151,but he says you need to apply via rotary - I think he's on to something.

I probably used too much and didn't polish long enough, but I wasn't impressed by it - at least not on that car.

YMMV
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You were doing it wrong. Treat it kinda like you would M105. It's based on the SMAT technology from Meg's.
 
I think it works very well as a good AIO polish for production jobs. Topping it IMO defeats the purpose of the product though as you've basically just turned it into M205, which IMO is easier to use. The whole idea of it being an AIO polish is to eliminate the need for any additional steps. Otherwise you may as well use a dedicated polish and wax.


Just my $.02 ;)
 
I may have to put this on my christmas list :Gift:for my customers that refuse to stop using automatic car washes.

Does it last at least 2 months ,anyone know? Whats in it ,caranuba wax?
 
detailchick said:
I may have to put this on my christmas list :Gift:for my customers that refuse to stop using automatic car washes.

Does it last at least 2 months ,anyone know? Whats in it ,caranuba wax?
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I'd say 3-4 weeks protection....probably won't last long at all if they're going through auto washes.
 
RaskyR1 said:
I think it works very well as a good AIO polish for production jobs. Topping it IMO defeats the purpose of the product though as you've basically just turned it into M205, which IMO is easier to use. The whole idea of it being an AIO polish is to eliminate the need for any additional steps. Otherwise you may as well use a dedicated polish and wax.


Just my $.02 ;)
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Agree 99%, but using a spray wax or sealant during 151 removal isn't REALLY an extra step in my eyes. If I were to use a normal sealant or wax, then yeah, sub 205 in its place. :wink:
 
Stokdgs said:
If this is for older vehicles, going to the Auction, trade in's, etc., then this product will do an outstanding job for cleaning the paint, removing alot but not all scratches, etc., and leave a nice layer of gloss and protection.
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And that is exactly the scenario we developed it for. But in our usual "under promise/over deliver" way, it's being used to far better results overall by plenty of folks looking for a good all-in-one. In fact, in many cases, when worked a bit longer or more aggressively, and coupled with a bit of finesse at the end, we've seen some outstanding results achieved with D151 alone. We wouldn't necessarily recommend it off the top of our heads as a go to product for a full blow concours type detail project, but it is surprising to see what it's truly capable of. Rotary or D/A, wool or foam - use whatever combo is needed for the level of correction required.

But never lose sight of the original design intent of the product - high volume reconditioning where a true show car shine is not the target.
detailchick said:
Does it last at least 2 months ,anyone know? Whats in it ,caranuba wax?
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It's a blend of carnauba and polymer. Longevity is, as always, highly variable. A couple of months should be achievable in decent conditions, though.
 
Michael S. - Thanks for clarifying this product.

I noticed on my Gallon Jug it talks about Unigrit Technology, based on the outstanding Unigrit sandpaper in that all the cleaning particles are uniform in size, breaking down together more unformly, and if worked longer, can deliver even better results, depending on the paint condition, pad type, machine, etc.. I believe the Unigrit technology particles dont diminish like others, but just get smaller, so you get more of a polishing effect..

I have successfully worked this product on harder paint, down to almost nothing on the paint, and found that it justs gets better; you just have to decide what you want it to do/not do, in the timeframe you are alloting for this particular detail..

So Michael, is this product, an offshoot of the Meguiars M86 I believe, Solo-1 line ?

Thanks for your help here and everywhere !

Dan F
 
Dan, D151 utilizes SMAT abrasives so they don't really break down, at least not in the way a diminishing abrasive like those found in M80, M83, M85 etc do. While SMAT encompasses an entire family of abrasives their behavior is similar even though the initial intent and final results vary - think M105 vs M205; both use SMAT but obviously in different ways and for different reasons. D151 borrows from that technology but uses it in a manner that is, as you suspect, similar to that of M86 So1o though not really derived from it. Specifically, D151 and M86 are extremely versatile liquids in that they can be used with a rotary and wool pad for heavy cutting or down to a finishing pad and rotary or D/A for final polishing. In fact, both were designed specifically to be used in this manner. But where M86 was developed for use on fresh paint, D151 is designed more for factory cured paint. That does not mean, however, that you can never use them the other way around. Experimentation can yield some interesting results - sometimes fantastic, sometimes not so much.

If you want to talk about derivative products, look to our consumer SwirlX as being derived from D151 just as Ultimate Compound is derived from M105.
 
Michael,

Thanks again for your posts. I understand allot more about this specific product.

I think we all have benefitted from this Thread, and hopefully some will try this great product out !

Dan F
 
bmw5541 said:
How does this product differ from KAIO or Poorboys PwS or any of the other AIO's out there?
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It is more of an abrasive polish than any of the others and can do a lot of correction. It has a similar cut to 205, with a little protection to boot.
 
Most jobs I need it for will require a LC cyan, these cars are usually pretty neglected. As is the case with a 2002 Maxima he asked me about...I had to refuse the job, car just isn't worth my time and I have no idea how he plans to sell it lol.
 
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