Ronkh
Wax Waster
AMEN !!!
Easy way to think about it....
While on the way in, figure out 2 ways to get out, and never let anything or anyone between you and your way out.
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AMEN !!!
Easy way to think about it....
While on the way in, figure out 2 ways to get out, and never let anything or anyone between you and your way out.
Time
Distance
Shielding
Stokdgs
dansautodetailing.com
Robert -
That report is 4 years old !
Im thinking the weight of TV's and most furniture has become much lighter now, so perhaps there will not be as many people losing their lives, no ??
Dan F
That report is 4 years old !
Im thinking the weight of TV's and most furniture has become much lighter now, so perhaps there will not be as many people losing their lives, no ??
Dan F
Ronkh
Wax Waster
Robert -
That report is 4 years old !
Im thinking the weight of TV's and most furniture has become much lighter now, so perhaps there will not be as many people losing their lives, no ??
Dan F
Dan, he just reguritating the agenda. Lots of people believe that garbage.
WhyteWizard
New member
Dan,
It takes awhile for people to compile the data but still. I'm much more worried about getting run over by someone texting or just not paying attention when I'm out riding my bicycle than I am about having any problem at all with a terrorist. I don't know any terrorists and I do carry a knife and I know how to use it but I don't spend a lot of time thinking about how scary the world is because it just isn't. I have a general idea of what I'd do in most situations but again, I don't go into a room wondering which of the people in that room I might have to deal with.
It's my experience that people who are trying to scare me are for the most part not doing it for my benefit. Congress needs to give the President some direction, pass an authorization to give the President authority to commit whatever forces CONGRESS thinks are necessary to deal with ISIS, Al Qaeda and whatever other threats they find it necessary to deal with. CONGRESS is supposed to decide when this country is going to fight, not the President. Funny they can get back to Washington to pass a law against bringing in refugees - who would be screened over the next few years and would no doubt, in the vast majority, be so grateful for being taken in that they'd be the most faithful friends we could have - but haven't done the military authorization bill needed to deal with the real threats.
Robert
It takes awhile for people to compile the data but still. I'm much more worried about getting run over by someone texting or just not paying attention when I'm out riding my bicycle than I am about having any problem at all with a terrorist. I don't know any terrorists and I do carry a knife and I know how to use it but I don't spend a lot of time thinking about how scary the world is because it just isn't. I have a general idea of what I'd do in most situations but again, I don't go into a room wondering which of the people in that room I might have to deal with.
It's my experience that people who are trying to scare me are for the most part not doing it for my benefit. Congress needs to give the President some direction, pass an authorization to give the President authority to commit whatever forces CONGRESS thinks are necessary to deal with ISIS, Al Qaeda and whatever other threats they find it necessary to deal with. CONGRESS is supposed to decide when this country is going to fight, not the President. Funny they can get back to Washington to pass a law against bringing in refugees - who would be screened over the next few years and would no doubt, in the vast majority, be so grateful for being taken in that they'd be the most faithful friends we could have - but haven't done the military authorization bill needed to deal with the real threats.
Robert
WhyteWizard
New member
This "garbage" is just facts that don't fit your world view. Some people like the drama of carrying guns and thinking about all the possible dangers that could be lurking in every day life but it's just drama. The world just isn't that dangerous.
If you're scared, that's just your choice.
Robert
Stokdgs
dansautodetailing.com
Robert,
Thanks for your reply -
And I am also more worried about the number of people who used to be so distracted just talking on the phone and driving, who are now eating, talking, texting and driving...
THAT can be scary when you are behind them and hopefully not next to to them..
Not sure about any of this being drama, though...
Yes, we certainly are so blessed to be in one of the parts of the world that isn't that dangerous at the moment - and I hope and pray for my children and their children that it never becomes even remotely as dangerous as it is in other places...
But without any help from these terrorist hot spots, there are still a few people that really are influenced by things and may be getting all jazzed up about making a name for their pathetic selves, as we have seen periodically in this country long before all the middle eastern stuff fired up...
Unfortunately, as more people grow up without knowing about the God and His Son our Fathers, Mothers, and Grandmothers told us about, there is a lot LESS Love out there..
Maybe its a desire for me to really Love my Neighbor, to not let anyone be hurt or killed, a desire to bring everyone back alive from danger, a desire to stand up now more than ever, and not cower down and take it like a dang sheep or something...
I just watched a Youtube of some guy who carries a zillion things in his dang cargo pants in every pocket every day - wow -
Including a couple of loaded weapons, first aid, about the only thing he didnt show he had, was a shovel to dig a foxhole..
Perhaps for me personally, it might have something to do with all my life growing up, and my work history including the Military; all these things were the type of jobs that were ON, 24x7, they never were turned off, someone just replaced you after your 12+ hours and then you came back after 12 hours and did it again...
Or like they say, you can take the Military away from the Man, when he is honorably discharged, but you cannot take the Man away from the Military...
Another thing we dont speak of often, is the Stealth factor.. It will always be better to be not 'visible' but prepared than what these dummies do - pull up in a car, get your AK, etc., out, make sure its loaded and safety off, and start walking around to shoot up the place...
A Sniper's dream...
At least on this side of the two Coasts, it seems to be safe, and that is great and I again, hope and pray that this entire Nation will continue to be Blessed from above with peace and safety from our enemies...
Dan F
Thanks for your reply -
And I am also more worried about the number of people who used to be so distracted just talking on the phone and driving, who are now eating, talking, texting and driving...
THAT can be scary when you are behind them and hopefully not next to to them..
Not sure about any of this being drama, though...
Yes, we certainly are so blessed to be in one of the parts of the world that isn't that dangerous at the moment - and I hope and pray for my children and their children that it never becomes even remotely as dangerous as it is in other places...
But without any help from these terrorist hot spots, there are still a few people that really are influenced by things and may be getting all jazzed up about making a name for their pathetic selves, as we have seen periodically in this country long before all the middle eastern stuff fired up...
Unfortunately, as more people grow up without knowing about the God and His Son our Fathers, Mothers, and Grandmothers told us about, there is a lot LESS Love out there..
Maybe its a desire for me to really Love my Neighbor, to not let anyone be hurt or killed, a desire to bring everyone back alive from danger, a desire to stand up now more than ever, and not cower down and take it like a dang sheep or something...
I just watched a Youtube of some guy who carries a zillion things in his dang cargo pants in every pocket every day - wow -
Including a couple of loaded weapons, first aid, about the only thing he didnt show he had, was a shovel to dig a foxhole..
Perhaps for me personally, it might have something to do with all my life growing up, and my work history including the Military; all these things were the type of jobs that were ON, 24x7, they never were turned off, someone just replaced you after your 12+ hours and then you came back after 12 hours and did it again...
Or like they say, you can take the Military away from the Man, when he is honorably discharged, but you cannot take the Man away from the Military...
Another thing we dont speak of often, is the Stealth factor.. It will always be better to be not 'visible' but prepared than what these dummies do - pull up in a car, get your AK, etc., out, make sure its loaded and safety off, and start walking around to shoot up the place...
A Sniper's dream...
At least on this side of the two Coasts, it seems to be safe, and that is great and I again, hope and pray that this entire Nation will continue to be Blessed from above with peace and safety from our enemies...
Dan F
WhyteWizard
New member
Dan,
Context is everything. When I was in the military I carried guns all the time. Different time, different place.
How many of those people you see on YouTube talking about what they'd do would you trust to take out a bad guy standing between you and someone you care about? How many would you even trust to know a bad guy from a good guy who was engaging a bad guy? How many of those guys do you think can shoot under stress? I watch people at the range all the time and they can't hit the target when everything is optimal so I'm not optimistic about the skills of my fellow gun owners, but that's just me, you're experience may be very different.
I'm a big believer in dry fire practice, how about you? Every day?
Robert
Context is everything. When I was in the military I carried guns all the time. Different time, different place.
How many of those people you see on YouTube talking about what they'd do would you trust to take out a bad guy standing between you and someone you care about? How many would you even trust to know a bad guy from a good guy who was engaging a bad guy? How many of those guys do you think can shoot under stress? I watch people at the range all the time and they can't hit the target when everything is optimal so I'm not optimistic about the skills of my fellow gun owners, but that's just me, you're experience may be very different.
I'm a big believer in dry fire practice, how about you? Every day?
Robert
Stokdgs
dansautodetailing.com
Robert -
Yeah, there is the trust factor for sure, and you are absolutely right regarding how many people could actually do it and do it accurately...
And that is why there is lots of practice and yes, every day if possible...
Dan F
You know I always hope that if I were in that situation I would be able to perform/do the right thing and in my mind, I can, but you never know until you are faced with the reality of it. I get involved in all kinds of crap I see day to day. And most of it does not rise to the level personal injury let alone death. I get into it with people I think need to learn some manners or just donkeys pitutes (don't want to get banned ) Why, because I cant help myself when I see it.
I took my family and in-laws in NYC for my MIL 80th birthday dinner / and a show. We were in the Theater district, jammed packed with people. I am the guy who likes to walk in the center of 3 people or behind a larger group. I'm tall and can see over them and I don't know why, but I cannot stop scanning the crowd. I am always torn between being in front or behind in that jammed crowded situation for the best placement. Another over though situation in my life (perhaps someone in the know can inform me). Not just since 911 or France but always. Not sure what I am looking for but if I see it, I hope I will know it.
An armed public I think would cause more harm then good in general, although it might have helped in Paris. Active shooter taken down faster does less damage. I just hope that the armed public is putting the time into practicing (physically and mentally) if they are armed.
The world is changing, and I think every generation thinks they had a "better place to live" ( I do-Safer anyway) and I find it sad that I have to go through "Airport" style security to go see a sporting event. Not complaining, either. Just find it sad. To my kids, its no big deal. I was at the theater in NYC and there were security officers w/dogs in the lobby as you entered. They had installed turnstiles to control the entrance into 2 definite single file lines right past the dogs. Made me feel better for sure. But also a little sad.
) Why, because I cant help myself when I see it.I took my family and in-laws in NYC for my MIL 80th birthday dinner / and a show. We were in the Theater district, jammed packed with people. I am the guy who likes to walk in the center of 3 people or behind a larger group. I'm tall and can see over them and I don't know why, but I cannot stop scanning the crowd. I am always torn between being in front or behind in that jammed crowded situation for the best placement. Another over though situation in my life (perhaps someone in the know can inform me). Not just since 911 or France but always. Not sure what I am looking for but if I see it, I hope I will know it.
An armed public I think would cause more harm then good in general, although it might have helped in Paris. Active shooter taken down faster does less damage. I just hope that the armed public is putting the time into practicing (physically and mentally) if they are armed.
The world is changing, and I think every generation thinks they had a "better place to live" ( I do-Safer anyway) and I find it sad that I have to go through "Airport" style security to go see a sporting event. Not complaining, either. Just find it sad. To my kids, its no big deal. I was at the theater in NYC and there were security officers w/dogs in the lobby as you entered. They had installed turnstiles to control the entrance into 2 definite single file lines right past the dogs. Made me feel better for sure. But also a little sad.
Ronkh
Wax Waster
IMHO
Growing up in/around NYC you have a better "situational awareness" than a lot of people.
And yes you are very right about not knowing how you'd react in an emergency situation until actually faced with it. But imho, observation/situational awareness is a huge part of survival. Even by the sheer point of avoidance.
Growing up in/around NYC you have a better "situational awareness" than a lot of people.
And yes you are very right about not knowing how you'd react in an emergency situation until actually faced with it. But imho, observation/situational awareness is a huge part of survival. Even by the sheer point of avoidance.
Angus
AspiringProductSpecialist
Couldn't agree more with you Robert. The number of people out there who buy guns just to have them "when the time comes" scares the crap out of me. The last place in the world I want to find myself is near some yahoo who's spraying bullets / has no idea what they are doing. Case in point:
Woman who shot at alleged Home Depot shoplifter's car charged
Thank god no one was injured.
Angus
AspiringProductSpecialist
Phil Klay's tweets regarding the refugee crisis is the smartest thing I've read all week:
https://twitter.com/PhilKlay
https://twitter.com/PhilKlay
Ronkh
Wax Waster
Ya can't fix stupid
Ronkh
Wax Waster
Ronkh
Wax Waster
Can't see the tweet, but IMHO Trumps stupid comment about "registering" all Muslims puts images like this in my head
Angus
AspiringProductSpecialist
Sorry about that. Link should work now:
https://twitter.com/PhilKlay
It's the full series of tweets #1-17 that I'm referring to.
Angus
AspiringProductSpecialist
Trump is an idiot. "Making America Great Again" isn't going to start with "registering" all Muslims. What makes America great is being a beacon for the world to inspire too. We are the land of the free home of the brave and I for one am not afraid of accepting orphaned children and homeless widows into our great land. These people need our help, not a bunch of vile politicians labeling them as "possible terrorist" and "could be an ISIS threat".
Can't see the tweet, but IMHO Trumps stupid comment about "registering" all Muslims puts images like this in my head
House of Wax
Active member
Would you be ok just accepting women and children? All fighting age males stay to fight ISIS?
House of Wax
Active member
Honest question btw
Angus
AspiringProductSpecialist
it's a good question. The fact is, women and children make up the vast majority of refuges. Fighting age males are staying to fight ISIS. More over according to the US State Department only 2% of the Syrian refugees are military aged men w/ no family.
Source: State Department: Only 2% Of Syrian Refugees In U.S. Are Military-Aged Men With No Family - BuzzFeed News