Zaino vs NXT

I have used Zaino now for two years and I love it. But I really cant give you any real every day answers as my car is a garage queen. But I must say that the zaino seems to have an anti static quality to it. My car doesn't seem to attract and cling to dust like some other products. I really like the Z6 QD. I goes on so well and goes great job on the surface. I use only Z5 on my car. My car is black and the Z5 hides some minor swirls and creates a wonderful deep shine. Easy on Easy off!
 
I have used Zaino on all my cars...showcars and daily drivers...and I find it to have no equal. I tried NXT and thought it was junk. Even Meguairs Cleaner-Wax did a better job.



But..to expect any polish-wax to last more than, say, 8 weeks may be stretching it.



One more thing. NXT contains abrasives and silicones. Silicones will make shine...but offer nothing for durability or protection. They also attract dust. Zaino contains neither silicones or abrasives.
 
so. Zaino Experts. With my color car ( see beginning of thread for pics) what do you think would be the best way to use Zaino?



I have had some suggest only use Z5, and that Z2 may dull the appearance some. But, finishing off with Z2 makes it all last longer?



Any takes on this?



I also plan on getting some 3m swirl and scratch remover. There seems to be one for dark cars, and one for light. I never showed the Zaino rep the picture of my car, but asked via email which one I should use for some small scratches on the car. He said to use the one for dark cars. My car is a light grey most of the time. And in sunlight, the metallic REALLY comes out, and is even lighter, almost blueish silver.



I'm guessing I should apply the 3m BEFORE any Zaino, but after the clay and prep?
 
You may want to see how good Wolfgang's durability ends up if you want a super user friendly sealant option. After 4 weeks, I am still getting real good beading, the appearance is holding up well and slickness has only fallen off a little. Time will tell though.
 
Matt M said:
I have used Zaino on all my cars...showcars and daily drivers...and I find it to have no equal. I tried NXT and thought it was junk. Even Meguairs Cleaner-Wax did a better job.



But..to expect any polish-wax to last more than, say, 8 weeks may be stretching it.



One more thing. NXT contains abrasives and silicones. Silicones will make shine...but offer nothing for durability or protection. They also attract dust. Zaino contains neither silicones or abrasives.
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I think you're being overly critical of NXT. It contains some very mild cleaners (I would hardly classify it as abbrasives) and there is nothing wrong with having some silicone in a wax. You're free to have your opinion, but many people, including myself, have used NXT and the results have been very satisfactory.:D
 
94Blkstang...I may be over critical of NXT, but c'mon, even Meguiars prints on the box comments like "you want this before you go to a car show". One would think this new product was clear-coat in a bottle. I'm glad it works for you..all the best.



A Meguair's Rep posted on another site that they do consider it a cleaner-wax and mentioned that it contained abrasives. Not my words...Meguiars'. They went on to write that NXT uses both abrasives and chemical cleaners.



Also, I did not write that silicones were "wrong". Silicones are cheap and make a great shine, that's why companies use them. It is common knowledge that silicones do nothing to help protect your paint either. A future re-paint could be hampered by use of silicones though.



As far as newf's question. Z5 or Z2 WILL NOT dull your finish. According to the maker, Z5 has a swirl filler ability (I would think you would need a hundred coats though) but that Z2 has a better shine. I have used either one as a final coat.
 
I'm not sure I've ever used a "final" coat of Zaino. It seems like I apply a new coat every other time I wash because I have the time and the car is clean and smooth. And the next coat seems to deepen the shine.
 
If you guys were more concerned with the proper prep work, you'd realize that the last step product is only going to give you a marginal change in appearance.



Most people can't tell what you are using. If durability is the most important thing to you, Zaino is pretty proven in that area. So are many other things.



Good luck :)
 
ordering Zaino on Monday! I was going to try NXT first, but getting one bottle shipped up here isn't worth it. I could have more zaino instead :)



Prep work is always the most important step. I plan on putting aside a day just to do so before putting the Zaino on. I hate doing the Prep work, but the difference it makes is amazing. Thankfully it's not something you have do to do very often.



Zaino seems pricey up front, but if you guys are getting more then 1-2 years out of it. then it's really not that pricey once you add up the cost of "cheap" wax and all it's cleaners/bars/pads/ etc.



As for the "final Coat thing". I read that striaght off of the Zaino's website under the Faq. that you should always end off with Z2. Makes sense to me. Like any other wax, the swirl/scratch remover always needs to be covered afterwards or it doesn't last as long right?



Anyways. I'll order monday. It'll probably take a week or two. No matter anyways. While we have been getting warmer weather lately, all of a sudden we got hit with hail and freezing rain yesterday/today. I don't even have the winter steelies off yet. :( I'll be sure to take before/after shots with my canon g5. Any tips you guys got for zaino. Feel free to pass along.



Thanks to everyone once again for the great honest opinions
 
Newf,

You may want to check with Sal (Zaino) and ask if there is a Zaino distributor near you in Canada. Might be cheaper (shipping charges) and definitely faster (no Customs).
 
Goto www.zaino.ca for the Canadian Website.



Goto the order form and click your province/territory.



Place your order.



That way you don't have to worry about customs etc and should potentially get your supply quicker as well if you don't have a local source.
 
As far as how long a bottle can last....I use the ZFX, and mix one ounce. This is enough to do my Mustang Cobra once AND my Bronco once. You put it on very thin. One ounce would do either vehicle more that once. (I do not put anything on the Bronco's textured fiberglass roof.)



One good tip is to spritz your applicator with Z6 before using the polish.
 
Matt M said:
A Meguair's Rep posted on another site that they do consider it a cleaner-wax and mentioned that it contained abrasives. Not my words...Meguiars'. They went on to write that NXT uses both abrasives and chemical cleaners.
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Very light chemical and abrasive cleaners. Not enough to be considered a true cleaner wax. More along the lines of AIO. Nothing wrong with a light polishing effect either



Also, I did not write that silicones were "wrong". Silicones are cheap and make a great shine, that's why companies use them. It is common knowledge that silicones do nothing to help protect your paint either. A future re-paint could be hampered by use of silicones though.
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Where are you getting this information from? Paint contains some silicones. You might find this article interesting. It does a good job dispelling the silicone myths.



http://www.bettercarcare.com/articles.php?articleId=42



"Some small car care chemical manufactures create fear, uncertainty and doubt in people’s minds by claiming their products contain “no harmful silicones,� suggesting that silicone is harmful to the paint. This product hype and misinformation spread from person to person, generation to generation, and now-a-days on the internet, exaggerates the myth that silicones in car care products are harmful.



...The facts are indisputable. Silicone is part of the protective system in paint and helps the paint look better and last longer. Silicone cannot harm paint, let alone anything else it is formulated into, or sitting on top of, especially in the form of a coating of wax. Without properly blended silicones, waxes would be difficult to apply and would not have the high gloss and radiance we enjoy."
 
Scott....I have read that post before, thanks. I would agree that silicones are not detrimental to your finish, but would counter that by saying that it can cause trouble with later paintwork.



Let's also remember who wrote the article. A Meguairs' employee.

I'm sorry, but I can't take that article as unbiased.



About the NXT...I only posted what was written by a Meguiar's rep on another site. Again...not my words...his..and it was posted by the author of the article. Whether the ingredients are harmful or not...when I tried the NXT product I was very disappointed.



I have good friends that own a body shop. They keep silicones out of their shop as much as possible. Silicones cause fish-eyes and other adhesion problems. This is common knowledge. This is why many products directed towards professionals are listed a "body shop safe" when they do not contain silicones. I am following the advice of who I consider absolute professionals with decades of experience.



Hey look...I certainly do not have all the answers...that's why I'm here.
 
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