ironexecutioner
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someone i knew tried ice and was horribly dissatisfied. just depends what YOU want i guess..
Turtle Wax ICE
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I have tried Turtle Wax ICE Before Not to thrilled over product,The part that gets me is the Name ICE POLISH, I thought a polish repaired and created the gloss (shine) and Wax was a protectant for the paint.So where is the Wax Protection Part of the ICE collection.For over the counter I'll stick with Eagle 1 or Meguairs
David Fermani
Forza Auto Salon
keesue said:
Good thing you were saved from the dark side of 2nd rate retail consumer car care products :bigups
The more people that spread the word about better products being available, the more market share companies like Turtle Wax will loose.
It would suck being trapped having to use crappy, silicone infested, greasy, filler products when there's so many other great products out there that work much better. :xyxthumbs
imported_rydawg1
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Unfortanatly I have stripped TW ice off of a few clients cars and it sucked getting off. All the tiny little silicone speckles that are left behind are a pain.
I wish they would stop selling stuff like this to the consumers or make it better for paints.
I wish they would stop selling stuff like this to the consumers or make it better for paints.
Not to go off topic, but my new go-to, easy-to-use OTC product is UQW. It applies easily, is very slick and looks nice. It doesn't smell as good as Z8, but it's a nice product.
The only negative IMO is Meguiar's should give us more product for the money (currently $9.99 for 15.2 oz.). UQD is $9.99 for 22 oz. - a little expensive for what it is, IMO. I'd like to see UQD for like $6.99 and 22 oz. of UQW for $9.99.
The only negative IMO is Meguiar's should give us more product for the money (currently $9.99 for 15.2 oz.). UQD is $9.99 for 22 oz. - a little expensive for what it is, IMO. I'd like to see UQD for like $6.99 and 22 oz. of UQW for $9.99.
Back when I did not know what I was doing, and looking at it in retrospect, TWP is not a bad OTC wax at all. Does not comapare to the stuff I found out about when I started lurking here, but if I HAD to buy an OTC wax, I would not sneeeze at TWP compared to what else you find on store shelves.
Never tried ICE.
Never tried ICE.
rydawg said:
Let's think about that for a moment. That means the protective film created by the Ice polish is effectively protecting the paint and resisting attempts to remove it. :spot
"Ice polish sucks!, Not only is it not durable, but the film it leaves behind is very hard to remove!!"
That means the amino-silicones and resins have done an excellent job of bonding to the paint, thereby forming a tough film, with very little labile silicone. Welcome to the promised land of polymer sealants.
Maybe you should try some TW Bug and Tar remover: liquid, not the spray or aerosol.
Such a tough protective film is great for paint, for auto painters not so much.
But if you aren't looking to (or don't want to have to) get your car repainted any time soon, then TW Ice is a superb product. :closed:
wannafbody
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GoudyL said:Let's think about that for a moment. That means the protective film created by the Ice polish is effectively protecting the paint and resisting attempts to remove it. :spot
"Ice polish sucks!, Not only is it not durable, but the film it leaves behind is very hard to remove!!"
That means the amino-silicones and resins have done an excellent job of bonding to the paint, thereby forming a tough film, with very little labile silicone. Welcome to the promised land of polymer sealants.
Maybe you should try some TW Bug and Tar remover: liquid, not the spray or aerosol.
Such a tough protective film is great for paint, for auto painters not so much.
But if you aren't looking to (or don't want to have to) get your car repainted any time soon, then TW Ice is a superb product. :closed:
I'd like to see proof that Ice has amino functional resins in it. To me it seems to be better suited for use as a hair gel.
Bostonsfavson
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GoudyL said:Let's think about that for a moment. That means the protective film created by the Ice polish is effectively protecting the paint and resisting attempts to remove it. :spot
"Ice polish sucks!, Not only is it not durable, but the film it leaves behind is very hard to remove!!"
That means the amino-silicones and resins have done an excellent job of bonding to the paint, thereby forming a tough film, with very little labile silicone. Welcome to the promised land of polymer sealants.
Maybe you should try some TW Bug and Tar remover: liquid, not the spray or aerosol.
Such a tough protective film is great for paint, for auto painters not so much.
But if you aren't looking to (or don't want to have to) get your car repainted any time soon, then TW Ice is a superb product. :closed:
Just because Ice is hard to remove doesn't mean it's doing a good job bonding to/protecting the paint, and it *certainly* doesn't mean it's a good product.
I've used Ice, and I won't argue that it can make a vehicle look good in the short term. However, if you think it's a "superb" product, I humbly suggest you expand your product portfolio. Not trying to sound condescending, and I apologize if I do. It's just that if you think Ice is superb, then there are some other products out there that will blow you away :xyxthumbs
wannafbody said:
While fooling around with google patent search, looking up automotive polish, and similar things, I came across this patent which seems to be Ice liquid. It's actually quite fascinating to see the patents behind things like Eagle 1 nano wax, and so forth.
Interestingly it seems to be quite similar to a patent by Dow Chem. Whats amazing is that the companies are able match the refractive indexes of the both phases in the emulsion thus resulting in a clear water white polish.
(WO/2007/126773) LIQUID POLISHING COMPOSITION AND KIT (TW Patent)
Self-leveling silicone polish - Patent 5531814 (Dow Patent)
Anywho
:woot: Siliconeized Carnauba! I wonder if this the "clarified carnauba" that is claimed to be present in the Ice detailer.
:spot :spot :spot
Which seems to be related to the topic of this project "Effect of crosslinking on the mobility of PDMS filled with polysilicate nanoparticles: Positron lifetime, rheology and NMR relaxation studies"
Polymers at Interfaces Group - Publications - 2007
Possibly the polysilicate particles reinforce the final polymer. Kind of like what carbon black does in tires.
Pity I slept through 50% of my polymer chemistry class in university.:think:
imported_rydawg1
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GoudyL said:Let's think about that for a moment. That means the protective film created by the Ice polish is effectively protecting the paint and resisting attempts to remove it. :spot
"Ice polish sucks!, Not only is it not durable, but the film it leaves behind is very hard to remove!!"
That means the amino-silicones and resins have done an excellent job of bonding to the paint, thereby forming a tough film, with very little labile silicone. Welcome to the promised land of polymer sealants.
Maybe you should try some TW Bug and Tar remover: liquid, not the spray or aerosol.
Such a tough protective film is great for paint, for auto painters not so much.
But if you aren't looking to (or don't want to have to) get your car repainted any time soon, then TW Ice is a superb product. :closed:
Your giving people wrong information here and i just hope people do not take you serious.
Why are you always pushing TW products?
Are you affiliated with Turtle Wax Corp?