Turtle Wax ICE

Since its major downfall is durability, could you Polycharge it?



Just to answer this question- David B has posted elsewhere that it can't be polycharged. I would deduce from that that it isn't a very good product.
 
For those of you who dont care for TW products, you should try their leather cleaner/conditioner. I think you'll be pleasanty surprised by it.......I remember fisrt starting detailing, that was one of my products and had stayed with it for some time, until i sort of "acquired" additional products......
 
It goes on faster and wipes out as easy as a quick detailer so if a QD is in order sometimes i reach for the ICE.



What's weird is that the ICE polish(liquid) is faster than the ICE QD and produces more shine.
 
stuart hicks said:
It goes on faster and wipes out as easy as a quick detailer so if a QD is in order sometimes i reach for the ICE.



What's weird is that the ICE polish(liquid) is faster than the ICE QD and produces more shine.



that really isn't that surprising-it looks like oil and applies like oil. I'm sure it would make one heck of a glaze.
 
I left some ICE on one of my applicator sponges and it has turned into rubber and I can't get it off.



When your putting on the ICE liquid polish do you wipe it back and forth or just one wipe? I bought this stuff but can't quite figure out how to apply it effectively?
 
stuart hicks said:
It goes on faster and wipes out as easy as a quick detailer so if a QD is in order sometimes i reach for the ICE.



What's weird is that the ICE polish(liquid) is faster than the ICE QD and produces more shine.



I still use ICE even though I learned a considerable amount about other products here and have used them to great affect. ICE has its place just as you described. It cleans and refreshes the shine like crazy and is super easy to use. It just works. I recently ordered some Opti-seal and used it for the first time and 'wow' is all I can say. The next weekend, I used ICE to tidy things up and later in the day I put a coat of opti-seal over it for grins. 'Double wow' - Incredible! I wonder if one can polycharge opti-seal?



What a heck of a hobby this is... (I know, no pictures. I and my camera don't seem to get along very well. I'm going to buy a new one. I'm eyeing the Casio Exilim model).
 
a.k.a. Patrick said:
For those of you who dont care for TW products, you should try their leather cleaner/conditioner. I think you'll be pleasanty surprised by it.......



I have that TW platinum leather conditioner/cleaner and found it to be as good lexol at cleaning and conditioning. The TW platinum line has some winners at a reasonable price. I found their gallon jug of car wash for $4, their tire tire gel for $3, and the interior protectant for $3 all at Odd Lots. I have been very happy with these products from Turtle Wax and Autopians will be pleasantly surprised with their effectiveness in comparison to more costly boutique products.
 
I have a bottle of ICE used once. It was bought the day ICE came on the market. It has now turned a Brown color (root beer lite).
 
YoMike said:
I have a bottle of ICE used once. It was bought the day ICE came on the market. It has now turned a Brown color (root beer lite).



I know someone who has a bottle and it turned yellowish in about 6 months. You shouldn't have to worry about it doing that on a car tho-it will wash off way before it ever yellows.
 
Friend bought it and used it on his truck. He said it never really set up like any other wax he's used. In fact, he said it didn't dry or set up at all - it just smeared around like Vaseline.
 
That's the beauty of the stuff. It goes on like baby oil and you think your never gonna be able to wipe it off but when you wipe it comes right off with no streaks or smears or powder.



It doesn't give the depth and shine that a good carnuba does but it adds more depth and shine than a QD and it's as fast or faster to wipe on and off.
 
I detailed my cars this weekend for Spring and it made me remember my first post on this forum - this one. I was musing that if I hadn't joined and read up on things, I might well still be using ICE polish every weekend.



Fortunately, I learned about claying, polishing and higher performance products that last. I bought a DA, graduated to a rotary and have an abundance of really nice products to use. For this, I am thankful I joined Autopia. After reading many 'first poster' topics, in retrospect, mine may have appeared disingenuous, but I was earnest in wanting to learn more.



So, thanks to all the pros for sharing your great information. :thx



Here is the Yaris after Meg's #83, #80 with rotary and OOSx2 layered with #16x2. I keep it up using OCW mixed with AW.



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Not to open up old wound with the ICE discussion but my bug problem is the products label. What I mean is TW calls it a polish? It is not. It has no cleaning or corrective abilities. It is an LSP that does produce a nice crisp shine, albeit short lived. Is ICE bad? No. Are there other products equally priced that perform better? absolutely. BTW keesue, I have drive the Yaris HB and sedan. Both vehicles are surprisingly roomy and efficient.
 
I agree on both counts. ICE is mis-labled and it doesn't last. It actually does work well on top of a properly prepped car with a good sealant underneath it. For very little work, you can get a 'Friday night fresh shine' in minutes. The lack of durability is why I'm glad I found out about the other products I'm using.



I also agree - the Yaris is fantastic. I consistently average 35mpg in city driving and 38-40 out on the higway, depending on traffic speeds, and it rides just fine. The fuel and maintenance costs are incredibly satisfying. Change the oil and you're good to go. Great car...
 
To the typical OTC consumer, I don't see how ICE liquid would be mislabeled. A wax brings to mind a tub of thick pasty turtle wax vs. polish which sounds more liquid. To the average consumer there is no harmful confusion. But for what the OTC consumer wants, (a very shiny car, with little work) ICE fits the bill.



About the only risk is that Ice would disappoint relative to a cleaner wax due to lack of polishing/cleaning ability. But in practice I think this is less likely due to the ICE's ability to soak into oxidised paint, lack of abrasives that can contribute to swirl marks, and tendency not to foul up buffing cloths.



I would venture to guess that typical consumer will get better results with ICE than with most competing products. The product is incredibly easy to use, and foolproof in application. You don't have to avoid any rubber/plastic/vinyl/chrome trim items, and ice works better on these sections than many dedicated protectants.



Ice liquid was reformulated for greater durability (mentioned on the packaging, and in the slight purplish color of the new formula), so perhaps TW should have called it Ice 2.0, and then gotten a clean break in the reviews.



I also wonder how many people are comparing Ice liquid to other synthetic paste polishes, vs using the more comparable Ice paste. :nono My understanding from the MSDS is that the paste has more wax solids in it, and so should be more durable than the liquid.



Finally, Ice is just so much easier to use and get good results with than traditional car waxes. Last weekend for old times sake, I waxed my dad's car with a tub of Kit carnauba paste wax. That took just so much more time and mental+physical effort for a good result.



With Ice liquid you can happily wax away, whereas with carnauba paste you had to be careful not to get it on rubber trim or stuck in crevasses. Same deal with buffing out, where you have to use some effort to buff out all of the hazed wax, and then rebuff with a soft cloth vs just wiping away with the MF towel and then rebuffing with the other side.



My own feeling is that the TW Ice line is at least the equal of other hand applied OTC products in its price range and perhaps better when you take into account its greater versatility. Somehow it is fashionable to dismiss Turtle wax though.
 
04-27-09, 04:17 #58 (permalink)

GoudyL



With Ice liquid you can happly wax away, whereas with carnauba paste you had to be careful not to get it on rubber trim or stuck in crevases. Same deal with buffing out, where you have to use some effort to buff out all of the hazed wax, and then rebuff with a soft cloth vs just wiping away with the MF towel and then rebuffing with the other side.





What nuba are you referring to that you can't get it on trim work? Most quality nuba's have no issues with trim staining.
 
@GoudyL:



Your post makes a lot of sense. In that context, ICE or other OTC equivalent would satisfy the casual user since one doesn't have to be real careful in its application.
 
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