Review: Meguiar's DA Microfiber System

I can finish pretty well with 205 on either a black or red flat pad....on a PC. I can't get 205 to finish well with a rotary, no matter what I've tried. I was working with Kevin brown and expressed this concern, IIRC he said he has had the same problem.



Pressure with the MF pads is something I've played with I do two finishing passes with 105 or 300 with very light pressure and seem to get a better final finish.



On supersoft paints UF works well, in half the time as FPII/85rd.....yes it can fill unless you check.



Cheers,

GREG



ps. I'm taking this thread off track, sorry Rasky! I'll stop now
 
Picus said:
*SO* many cars have these super sensitive paints now we can't possibly afford to ignore them/not know how to finish properly..
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One more example of why I :bow regarding the work Pros here are doing.
 
So what is the difference between M105 and D300. Is it easier to work with, with less dusting? Someone mentioned it has a little less cutting. I have been using M105 for a while and really like the results, but hate the dust. If D300 is almost as abrasive, with out the dusting, will it not make M105 obsolete?
 
DSVWGLI said:
So what is the difference between M105 and D300. Is it easier to work with, with less dusting? Someone mentioned it has a little less cutting. I have been using M105 for a while and really like the results, but hate the dust. If D300 is almost as abrasive, with out the dusting, will it not make M105 obsolete?
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In my opinion it will not make 105 obsolete. D300 has less cut, not a huge amount less, but enough less than 105 will still be my go to on cars with heavy marring. D300 is like a friendlier 105, no dust, easier to clean up, less cut, fantastic finish. It's making my life really easy on cars that just need light to moderate compounding that have anything but super soft paint; it finishes so nicely you can just jump to 8RD and refine the finish quickly, then you're good. No intermediate step needed on my paints like with 105.



As an example this week I've worked on two cars where D300 was a huge time saver; a jerez black M3 and a blue S5; both with moderate marring (too much for 205/106 etc). After D300 I almost could have gone to LSP, but a quick pass with 8rd and I was all set.



Also, fwiw, the lack of dust is really, really nice. Sometimes it's easy to forget what a hassle dust can be until you use a product that doesn't dust.
 
Thanks Picus. I will have to try it out. I have been finding with cars with moderate to heavy marring, I use 105 with an orange LC pad, with as many applications as needed, then 106fa Black LC pad and I'm done. This is on black cars. 106fa negates the need for a middle step for me.







Picus said:
In my opinion it will not make 105 obsolete. D300 has less cut, not a huge amount less, but enough less than 105 will still be my go to on cars with heavy marring. D300 is like a friendlier 105, no dust, easier to clean up, less cut, fantastic finish. It's making my life really easy on cars that just need light to moderate compounding that have anything but super soft paint; it finishes so nicely you can just jump to 8RD and refine the finish quickly, then you're good. No intermediate step needed on my paints like with 105.



As an example this week I've worked on two cars where D300 was a huge time saver; a jerez black M3 and a blue S5; both with moderate marring (too much for 205/106 etc). After D300 I almost could have gone to LSP, but a quick pass with 8rd and I was all set.



Also, fwiw, the lack of dust is really, really nice. Sometimes it's easy to forget what a hassle dust can be until you use a product that doesn't dust.
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I am going to invest in this product, however, do you think I will need to order more than (2) cutting pads per vehicle, or do they clean out well (with air compressor) as stated above?
 
Picus said:
Yes, I do like 105 on these pads a lot. :)



You're able to finish with 205 consistently? Average to hard paint or am I nuts? I can't get that stuff to finish properly on even sort of softish paint. Always looks great, then I IPA and cry a little.
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On most the sensitive paints with M205 I can finish very well using the crimson LC pads on the DA....some simply won't work however and I'll reach for 106fa or PO85RD at that point. However, I always reach for M205 first for it's ease of use and time savings. ;)
 
Street5927 said:
I am going to invest in this product, however, do you think I will need to order more than (2) cutting pads per vehicle, or do they clean out well (with air compressor) as stated above?
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You should be able to do a whole car with one or two pads. They clean out very well with compressed air and even a pad brush does a decent job.
 
Greg Nichols said:
Got some insights to the soft paint problem, its the pads. A big bird confined this to me, and stated that in asian soft paint is the norm and they have to hand finish!



So gents, the MF finishing pad and uber soft paints are not an ideal combo, hell uber soft paint and a MF towel are not ideal......



Cheers,

GREG
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Oddly enough, I used the combo on a midnight-pearl black Acura TL and the cut pad removed nearly 85% of the swirls and left no micro marring-this was in 70° direct sun all day. I followed with the finish pad/wax and it really didn't seem to do anything, so I finished with M205 and a hydrotech tangerine. Turned out flawless. On the same car, I tested the finish pad and wax as a 1 step and it glossed up the paint significantly, maybe removed 30% of swirls.



Tried the combo on a black Porsche-talk about SOFT! Both pads micro-marred the hell out of the car. I had to finish with a gray pad and D301 as it's really all i had with me at the time.



I'm not totally sold on this system as the go-to-one-and-only system yet.
 
tssdetailing said:
Oddly enough, I used the combo on a midnight-pearl black Acura TL and the cut pad removed nearly 85% of the swirls and left no micro marring-this was in 70° direct sun all day. I followed with the finish pad/wax and it really didn't seem to do anything, so I finished with M205 and a hydrotech tangerine. Turned out flawless. On the same car, I tested the finish pad and wax as a 1 step and it glossed up the paint significantly, maybe removed 30% of swirls.



Tried the combo on a black Porsche-talk about SOFT! Both pads micro-marred the hell out of the car. I had to finish with a gray pad and D301 as it's really all i had with me at the time.



I'm not totally sold on this system as the go-to-one-and-only system yet.
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Me neither - but they are nice tools to have. I can see D300 being a real workhorse.
 
I will have to try D300 because I just "hate" 105's dusting. The other day I used OHC spray with great results on a softish Infiniti FX35. OHCS took out all the heavy marring and left the finish very nice. I wonder if D300 is similar to OHCS in terms of cut and the lack of dusting? Anyway, I then tried OHPS with white LC pad but didn't finish out well. Then OHPS with LC black, same result. Gerrrr. Then I thought I would try Optimum finish polish, still no success. So my old tried and true 106FA with Black LC pad was used to produce a flawless finish. No polish I've tried has ever out performed 106FA. I think I will stick with it for final polishing.
 
tssdetailing said:
Oddly enough, I used the combo on a midnight-pearl black Acura TL and the cut pad removed nearly 85% of the swirls and left no micro marring-this was in 70° direct sun all day. I followed with the finish pad/wax and it really didn't seem to do anything, so I finished with M205 and a hydrotech tangerine. Turned out flawless. On the same car, I tested the finish pad and wax as a 1 step and it glossed up the paint significantly, maybe removed 30% of swirls.



Tried the combo on a black Porsche-talk about SOFT! Both pads micro-marred the hell out of the car. I had to finish with a gray pad and D301 as it's really all i had with me at the time.



I'm not totally sold on this system as the go-to-one-and-only system yet.
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Did you do a wipe down and inspect the Acura under halogens in a garage out of the sunlight?
 
tssdetailing said:
I'm not totally sold on this system as the go-to-one-and-only system yet.
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Agreed, I have yet to find one polishing line that works perfectly all the time on every different type of finish I come across. Even on the same car, I sometimes have to mix and match products and pads to get the desired results. On the plus side, we have another great option now.
 
I just purchased the whole setup, but am sort of regretting some of it. Since the finish "wax" wont ever be the LSP on my car, it might not be of any use to me. Not sure if that also means the finish pads are of no use as well, or if I can use the MF finish pads along with a different finishing polish (Megs 205 or one of the Menzernas).



Backing plate is still needed I guess, and it sounds like the compound is a winner...I liked 105 the few times I used it but hated the dust and relatively hard wipe-off. Im sure some Autopian might want to buy the finish wax :)
 
DSVWGLI said:
I will have to try D300 because I just "hate" 105's dusting. The other day I used OHC spray with great results on a softish Infiniti FX35. OHCS took out all the heavy marring and left the finish very nice. I wonder if D300 is similar to OHCS in terms of cut and the lack of dusting? Anyway, I then tried OHPS with white LC pad but didn't finish out well. Then OHPS with LC black, same result. Gerrrr. Then I thought I would try Optimum finish polish, still no success. So my old tried and true 106FA with Black LC pad was used to produce a flawless finish. No polish I've tried has ever out performed 106FA. I think I will stick with it for final polishing.
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d300 still dusts up, it's red and not white like M105 though LOL.
 
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