imported_Ivan Rajic
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RickRack said:
Exactly what I was going to say. Nice and thorough review.
Review: Meguiar's DA Microfiber System
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Exactly what I was going to say. Nice and thorough review.
Accumulator
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RaskyR1- Hey, great job :bow
I especially appreciated the OHC/D300 comparison, thanks for doing that.
You mentioned using the D300 via Flex...any pad/plate/velcro issues? What speed/setting did you use?
I especially appreciated the OHC/D300 comparison, thanks for doing that.
You mentioned using the D300 via Flex...any pad/plate/velcro issues? What speed/setting did you use?
RaskyR1
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Accumulator said:
Thanks Accumulator!
I only used the Flex on a few cars (speed 4-5) but I didn't experience any issues with the backing plates. I would suggest keeping an eye on the pad temps though just to make sure they are not overheating. Pell off is noticeably easier with the Meguiar's backing plates as well. Switching to a new pad more often will help too. Honestly, I don't think I'll ever use these with my Flex. The PCXP corrected just as well and even seemed to finish out a little better...the ease of use goes to the PC/G110/Griots hand down. If all you have is a Flex it does still work well, but if you have both, go with a traditional style DA.
Cheers,
Rasky
Accumulator
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RaskyR1- Copy that, and yeah, I too think the non-powered-rotation machines finish out a bit better and are generally preferable if/when you don't *need* what the Flex offers in that dept.
RaskyR1
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jcandiman said:i have a PC 7336 so i have to get the backing plates as you recommended - thanks for the tip.
did you clean the pad between panels? if so, what did you use and how frequently?
your videos and your write up completely sold me, a humble hobbyest.
I will clean my pads after each section or every other section with compressed air. Only takes a few seconds.
I'm sure you'll be impressed.
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Alexshimshimhae
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i guess i'll be saving up for a pc too then lol
mharris2007
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Hi. Could u tell me where you picked up the 3 " cutting pads and BP for the pcxp? I just bought the 5.5" cutting disks (and d300) and megs BP from di, but they didn't have the 3" pads or BP to fit them. Thanks.
Greg Nichols
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mharris2007 said:
ADS has the the 3" backing plates and pads.
Cheers,
GREG
mharris2007
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Hi Greg,
Awesome. Thanks so much.
Matt
Awesome. Thanks so much.
Matt
mharris2007
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Just picked up the 3" pads with BP and some Other goodies from ADS. I think my first test car is going to be my buddy's Phoenix yellow 2004 m3 he just picked up that is fairly hammered. I'll post pics and you all know how it goes. I don't know how I keep getting finagel'd, as a hobby detailer, into helping all my friends for free, man. I guess it'll all come back around to me hopefully.
imported_Picus
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Hey guys, first off, nice review. Second, I am really enjoying these products as well; they definitely fill a niche. One issue I am having, curious to see if others are too, is with the D301 on some paint I notice it creates more micromarring than the D300; particularly around edges. Of course I have the option of finishing with FPII/106ff/205 etc, but since the idea is that D301 should finish well I'm wondering if I am missing something. I'm doing 3-4 very light pressure passes with a primed finishing MF pad. I'd tried a little more/less pressure and slightly less speed, as well as more working time, and the results seem the same on soft black paint; ugliness.
Second, I am really enjoying these products as well; they definitely fill a niche. One issue I am having, curious to see if others are too, is with the D301 on some paint I notice it creates more micromarring than the D300; particularly around edges. Of course I have the option of finishing with FPII/106ff/205 etc, but since the idea is that D301 should finish well I'm wondering if I am missing something. I'm doing 3-4 very light pressure passes with a primed finishing MF pad. I'd tried a little more/less pressure and slightly less speed, as well as more working time, and the results seem the same on soft black paint; ugliness.
Greg Nichols
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Picus said:Hey guys, first off, nice review.
I cannot get 301 to work well on soft black paints.....lambos, ferraris, bmw. I'm not convinced its the liquid, I think its the pad.....didn't have time to try out my theory.
Cheers,
GREG
imported_Picus
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Greg Nichols said:
Bummer. Maybe I'll give it a whirl on a foam pad to see how it goes. I'm mostly just messing around on my wifes car before I try it on any client cars.
RaskyR1
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Picus said:
I have yet to finish a car with D301. In my testing I had several cars where it finished down very well, but some also left noticeable marring. Since most my customers want Opti-Coat or a dedicated sealant, I always finish with M205 or 106fa.
I'd agree with Greg that it's more likely the MF pad than the product. Some paints just don't seem to work well with it, which is fine for the cutting step really.
As Greg mentioned, M105 worked very well with these pads too, and they seem to dust less than foam and working time also seems longer.
Cheers,
Rasky
imported_DetailDan
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I agree with Greg. I'm not sure I like the MF pads for finishing. I was getting micromarring with the MF finishing pad, switched to a foam pad and no micromarring.
M105 with the MF pads worked pretty well for me too. It seemed to dust less and work longer. I really like the D300 compound though. Very little dust, slightly less cut than M105, and it doesnt cake up. Will be interested to see how it works with other pads, and the rotary.
M105 with the MF pads worked pretty well for me too. It seemed to dust less and work longer. I really like the D300 compound though. Very little dust, slightly less cut than M105, and it doesnt cake up. Will be interested to see how it works with other pads, and the rotary.
Greg Nichols
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Got some insights to the soft paint problem, its the pads. A big bird confined this to me, and stated that in asian soft paint is the norm and they have to hand finish!
So gents, the MF finishing pad and uber soft paints are not an ideal combo, hell uber soft paint and a MF towel are not ideal......
Cheers,
GREG
So gents, the MF finishing pad and uber soft paints are not an ideal combo, hell uber soft paint and a MF towel are not ideal......
Cheers,
GREG
Alexshimshimhae
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yea I was thinking that for soft paints I'd use more traditional approaches...
Accumulator
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Greg Nichols said:
IMO uber soft (I'd call it "stupid-soft") paint and Autopian standards are not an ideal combo! While pros have to deal with this sort of stuff, I myself will simply not own a car with very soft paint...it's an absolute deal-breaker for me no matter how swell the vehicle might be. Yeah, I know
that's letting form trump function, but I just couldn't deal with it.imported_Picus
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RaskyR1 said:I have yet to finish a car with D301. In my testing I had several cars where it finished down very well, but some also left noticeable marring. Since most my customers want Opti-Coat or a dedicated sealant, I always finish with M205 or 106fa.
I'd agree with Greg that it's more likely the MF pad than the product. Some paints just don't seem to work well with it, which is fine for the cutting step really.
As Greg mentioned, M105 worked very well with these pads too, and they seem to dust less than foam and working time also seems longer.
Cheers,
Rasky
Yes, I do like 105 on these pads a lot.
You're able to finish with 205 consistently? Average to hard paint or am I nuts? I can't get that stuff to finish properly on even sort of softish paint. Always looks great, then I IPA and cry a little.
Greg Nichols said:
Dangit, I was hoping to have something easier to finish with then the typical FPII/8rd.
Accumulator said:IMO uber soft (I'd call it "stupid-soft") paint and Autopian standards are not an ideal combo! While pros have to deal with this sort of stuff, I myself will simply not own a car with very soft paint...it's an absolute deal-breaker for me no matter how swell the vehicle might be. Yeah, I know
Uhh, I know. The problem is *SO* many cars have these super sensitive paints now we can't possibly afford to ignore them/not know how to finish properly. It can be such a nightmare though.