Optimum Hits A New First.....

This is awesome!



Now this is from the same Optimum that makes the other compounds/polishes right?



I love Optimum polish and compound, but one of the things that is kind of a pain is the bottle always gets clogged up.



This would seem to eliminate that problem :)
 
Did you say CYCLO!? Hot damn! I'm interested, and I have both the edge pads and LC Hydrotech 4" pads. So Anthony, how did the Cyclo do?
 


I have only had these for a little over a week so my experience is VERY limited as it stands.



a) The compound doesn't cut as much as M105 nor finish as nice, but in all fairness I have a lot of experience with M105 and very little with this new compound.



b) The polish has a similar level cut to M205, maybe a little bit less, but seems to finish out very nicely.



Also the compound kind of oozes out like silly string, so I may be having a problem with the sprayer (note that it is NOT the sprayer on the bottle but a sample sprayer), the polish is a nice mist.



Neither product is very messy at all, in fact quite the opposite. The compound and polish dust slightly, and I never experienced any sling. A pretty novel idea, but I will need to fine tune my technique to get the most from these products.
 
gmblack3a said:
As soon as my supplier gets some OHC in, I'm gonna try it out via the KBM with a G110v2. Also interested if it will work with the surbuf pads and a R/O.
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I have tried these polishes in a similar fashion to M105/M205 on the various pads.



I have yet to rival the cutting power of M105 regardless of pad and application technique, and have found the finish to be on par or slightly worse. I have not used them with surfbuf pads right now, but I am working on a Jag at my house and my give it a shot.



Comparing M205 to the Hyper Polish is different because Hyper Polish should be broken down and has a longer work time then M205 (which should achieve optimal results after 10-15 seconds). However the OHP is a joy to use, very slick and wet, and spreads forever.



I am sure I am not doing everything on par yet, but I am so used to the M105/M205 mindset that it is hard to switch it up. Any application tips from Anthony regarding amount used and work times would be great!
 
I had the original OHC which had a fairly thick lubricant. So it would seem to me that in order to get a sprayable compound the abrasive size would need to be quite small, the amount of solvent/lubricant increased, a very thin lubricant used, or a very course pump mechanism be employed.
 
With all due respect given to Todd (and in fact he is right about the testers he used) but the samples he had were just that, samples of the product still in testing mode.



The products we have now have been tweaked/revised at least twice or more since Todd and others have used their samples.



Wannafbody,



The original OHC compared to this new version is like night and day. I personally did not care for the original OHC and Dr. G knew this so to get this new version where it is now it has been basically been built from the ground up. The only similarity it has with your old OHC is the name.



As for this:
to get a sprayable compound the abrasive size would need to be quite small
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Yes....and? This would then be "micro-abrasives" correct? I believe 105 and others also have micro-abrasives and to take this a step further every time detailers are adding water to 105 (and other non-diminishing products) to continue its working time they are "thinning" out the carriers of the abrasives but the abrasives are still "micro".



I'm not sure about the real point of your post.



Anthony
 
Alfisti said:
I thought this was about compounds/polishes. What has durability got to do with this thread? :think:
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Sounds like he should write ad copy for Zaino, he's pretty good at it. :xyxthumbs
 
Obviously a "sprayable" Final Finish Polish is in the works also?



Looks like we have another solid product for our arsenals.



I'm stoked to see some further pics - before/afters...



:bigups
 
Yes....and? This would then be "micro-abrasives" correct? I believe 105 and others also have micro-abrasives and to take this a step further every time detailers are adding water to 105 (and other non-diminishing products) to continue its working time they are "thinning" out the carriers of the abrasives but the abrasives are still "micro".(end quote)



Basically, you answered the question-this is a different animal. But the other question remains-if it is a thinner product in order to be sprayable are you paying for more water/solvent and less compound as compared to a traditional compound?
 
wannafbody said:
Yes....and? This would then be "micro-abrasives" correct? I believe 105 and others also have micro-abrasives and to take this a step further every time detailers are adding water to 105 (and other non-diminishing products) to continue its working time they are "thinning" out the carriers of the abrasives but the abrasives are still "micro".(end quote)



Basically, you answered the question-this is a different animal. But the other question remains-if it is a thinner product in order to be sprayable are you paying for more water/solvent and less compound as compared to a traditional compound?
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Nope. Same amount of working product is within the formula. Now how it's all done I am not privy to but I can say from using it that when sprayed on your hand you can feel the abrasives within the Hyper Compound. These are encapsulated or suspended within the liquid solution. That's my very basic layman explanation.



Anthony
 
Anthony Orosco said:
The Hyper compound uses non-diminishing abrasives while the Hyper Polish does not. They can settle in certain sprayers so I recommend only using those that come with the bottles.
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Anthony, can you clarify this statement.



I'm from Australia so my English is not that good. ;)



Do I understand correctly that you're saying OHC contains non-diminishing abrasives, and OHP contains diminishing abrasives?
 
I have a sample on the way and will video and so forth and share when done. Should have them in a few days.



I have a Cyclo, PC and Makita.



Let me know if you want me to use all three, or if you have a request for me to use these products.



I'll be using LC pads- Kompressor and 4" also.



Rob
 
Anthony Orosco said:
Nope. Same amount of working product is within the formula. Now how it's all done I am not privy to but I can say from using it that when sprayed on your hand you can feel the abrasives within the Hyper Compound. These are encapsulated or suspended within the liquid solution. That's my very basic layman explanation.



Anthony
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Thanks for that explanation.
 
reeeko99 said:
Obviously a "sprayable" Final Finish Polish is in the works also?



Looks like we have another solid product for our arsenals.



I'm stoked to see some further pics - before/afters...



:bigups
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We are not sure about the Finish Polish just yet because we have not put a stamp on the final version. I want to test it just a bit more.



I will try to put up more pictures but I just don't have that type of time anymore.



Anthony







Alfisti said:
Anthony, can you clarify this statement.



I'm from Australia so my English is not that good. ;)



Do I understand correctly that you're saying OHC contains non-diminishing abrasives, and OHP contains diminishing abrasives?
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Yes. Well that's what I have been told.....:secret
 
I wonder why Optimum labeled the new polish with "Hyper" adjective. "Optimum Polish 3.0" sounds more serious. It's all good, though. I still have 16 oz of verion 2.0 (which is good, good stuff) to use yet.
 
I have a partially used bottle of Megs Ultimate compound that was the original thin & runny batch. I simply popped a sprayer from the hardware store on the bottle and it worked. Not sure if the sprayer would work with a bottle of the thicker version now on the shelves.



I also added a sprayer to my bottle of ZAIO which should allow me to put a thinner line of product on the applicator for better application.
 
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