The Fuzz
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joyriide1113 said:
Too bad, I was going to respond and I'm on a roll tonight.
I will let a sleeping dog lie.
Opinions of the "New" Detail City
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Too bad, I was going to respond and I'm on a roll tonight.
I will let a sleeping dog lie.
joyriide1113
There is no cure!
The Fuzz said:
You really like to get into this don't you.
For the record, I have no respect for you, not that you need it, you "take" it.
The reason why I edited everything was because no matter what I said, you would've responded in a way that would give u the last word, then you'd lock the thread down or ban me. Im not going to give you the benefit.
I'll keep my mouth shut on this subject from now on, but don't insult me either.
The Fuzz
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dr_detail said:For me, and I stress that this is my opinion, when I got here this forum seemed to me more about detailers sharing their experience and knowledge about detailing. There seemed to be more professional detailers (those who earn their daily bread doing this) and less do-it-yourselfers sharing. We were free to share what products worked for us, in what instances, and what didn't. Who's products we liked, who's we didn't, was shared without any biased rhetoric. Sponsors were not allowed to tote their products outside their own forums; and Detail City did not sell products.
As the membership grew, the ratio of professional members was far overshadowed by hobbyists. Combine this demographic with an excellent web presence, a database of how-to articles, and an established distribution outlet, it made perfect sense to turn this into a product selling site. "Money Talks," I think someone said, and it did. With sponsorship up to $750/mo (last I was quoted by previous owner) why not promote what is available through them -- could it be money also promotes greed??
My curiosity is within all those membership #'s. Of them, how many are unique IP users; just how many are on the payroll with one or more of our sponsors? It really doesn't concern me, and it truly is none of my business. It does kinda bother me though that the majority of the products pitched in the open forums are only available threw them or via the web. As for the sponsor ~ DC relationship, I'm kinda baffled at why a sponsor would pay money to be a sponsor in a place that sells the same things -- isn't that kinda like putting up a Lowes inside a Home Depot?
Once again, this is only my opinions, based upon my experience. I kinda like this place just the way it is -- changes and all. For me, I like giving away my experience and get a kick out-a watchin' the game from the sidelines.
Throw greed out the window. We all need to make money to put food on the table, support our families and plan for retirement someday. We can't criminalize a company trying to scratch out a living.
I'm sure that there are plenty of B2B agreements out there.
Possibly something like this....
"You sell my brand, I give you a nice discount and I will pay you for advertising and we will do good business together."
It's not that crazy of an idea.
The Fuzz
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joyriide1113 said:
Nope, you are the one running your mouth. Like I said, I was just going to respond.
So you are the type that will talk smack on other forums, post here but then delete it because you are scared of the response. Why don't you go respond to me on another forum so ZaneO can pat you on the butt.
joyriide1113
There is no cure!
The Fuzz said:
What are you talking about? Scared of a response? Online?!?
haha... I deal with much worse people and argue with the worst of the legal business every day at my job... Arguing back and forth with a "bored" moderator of a dying detail forum is not a problem. Its arguing with a moderator who likes to give his last word and then shut down so no one else can respond...
The Fuzz
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joyriide1113 said:
So if you don't respect me and don't like it here, why are you here on a Friday night?
I'm working right now and taking time out to post. Why are you hanging out on a dying forum that you don't like on a Friday night? Bored? Looking to pick a fight with a mod you don't like? You tell me.
joyriide1113
There is no cure!
The Fuzz said:
Haha... Thats all you have? I'll be out by 11:30pm but please, don't stop working for me... Like you said, we all need "to scratch out a living"...
I just don't think your nails are sharp enough...
As more and more reputable, knowlegable, and experienced pro and hobby detailer leave DC, the more your "new" members will end up frequenting and posting on other forums where they can get better answers and read on more "detail" related topics.
But again maybe thats what you need, just a few threads a day to work on, instead of what this place used to be.
The Fuzz
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joyriide1113 said:
That's all I need Joy. A girl like you can't take much more than that.
Don't worry about my nails or any other of my bodyparts, you can look but you can't touch. I'm taken.
Come back in a year or two and tell me the forum is dying. I've heard it the past 4-5 years and people show their true colors, get a bad attitude and they come and go, but Detail City is still here.
Just don't go postal like a disgruntled employee, I don't need anymore psychos in my life.
audiboy
Hail the power of Quattro
joyriide1113 said:
I don't think that the site is dying at all. It may not have as many posts as it used to, but that is only because of the rule about showing member work on customer vehicles. I still think this site generates great discussions and new and interesting topics. This is being said as a member, not a moderator. I don't care if I'm a mod or not, I'd still be here every day.
The Fuzz
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audiboy said:
It doesn't have as many SHILL posts as it used to. Apparently the LIFE of the forum in Joy's eyes!
joyriide1113
There is no cure!
::yawn:: Have fun at work. I'll toast to you tonight!
The Fuzz
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joyriide1113 said:
Have fun doing whatever you do.
budman3
Detail time!
I think it is funny (and sad) how once or twice a year DC seems to get all fired up. Last few times was the picture posting rule, the whole mess with Simple Green, the Absorber from a few years ago... stuff like that. Not sure why it all goes down the way it does but so be it. DC is what really got me into detailing and is a great environment to learn about this hobby no matter the place of purchase or product.
The Fuzz
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And it's members like you with a great attitude that make DC so awesome.
Lots of people come here every day to learn and hangout and read up on detailing and products and you get a few people that need to turn that frown upside down.
And every time people get all worked up, some bonehead tried to tell me the forum is dying. I should start making a list and sending them all Christmas cards every year.
Lots of people come here every day to learn and hangout and read up on detailing and products and you get a few people that need to turn that frown upside down.
And every time people get all worked up, some bonehead tried to tell me the forum is dying. I should start making a list and sending them all Christmas cards every year.
Antonio Waxer
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dr_detail said:
I am not sure there have ever been alot of "professional detailers" here. As a professional I spend my time working not sitting on line. Some may say they are pros but unless they have alot of employees they would not have the time. I like to browse in the am and sometimes at night but not too often during the day unless I am sick. I also remember people talking about the process not the products and teaching others how to detail not telling them what the latest and greatest is. It looks to me that most of the sponsors now have their company name attached so that we know who they are
dr_detail said:
like the Fuzz said everyone needs to pay bills and having Pimps and Shills interject does not make sponsors want to pay to compete with them.
dr_detail said:
It was David B from Autopia that once said that service is what people will be drawn to ...I am assuming this is true if the product competition is fair
dr_detail said:Once again, this is only my opinions, based upon my experience. I kinda like this place just the way it is -- changes and all. For me, I like giving away my experience and get a kick out-a watchin' the game from the sidelines.
People have come and gone and to expect no changes would be idealistic.
Some people have been escorted to the door for the good of the site and others have remained, participated or watched from the sidelines. Detail city will go on and will evolve. Some will be happy and some won't. If someone does not like the movie being shown, they do not have to stay or buy a ticket.
Troy@Protekt
a.k.a. Troy@DetailCity
Well it looks like I missed quite a bit yesterday. I think I need to clear a few things up for everyone here.
The first thing I want to make clear is that DetailCity.org was not created simply to supply DetailCity.com or Autogeek.net with customers. It was created to give detailers and auto enthusiasts a place to share and learn from each other and educate the public as to what true detailing really is. in fact, the forum has been around long before the store existed.
Second thing I want to make clear is that Detail City (forum and store) is owned and operated by my wife Sheila and I in Sarasota Florida. Where as, Autogeek is owned and operated by Palm Beach Motoring, Inc. in Stuart Florida. We have business relationships with all of our sponsors and the Detail City Forums benefit from having each one of them including Autogeek on here to answer questions and inform us all of there latest products and info.
Do I like having such a strong competitor on the Detail City forums? As the owner of the forum, my answer is yes, because they have alot to offer you as members and it's what makes detail city what it is. As the owner of DetailCity.com, my answer is of course not, but I choose to look at them as I would a friend that I play tennis with. I play to win but shake hands between sets. Let me also say that the sponsors here, don't just get to be sponsors because they pay us. They are sponsors because we see them as an asset to all of you here.
I am excited about the direction Detail City is going. There are many great members here and we are growing everyday. To be honest with you all, I wish I could spend more time on here, but between helping Sheila run the store and also running a full time mobile auto detailing business with employees and find time for my two beautiful girls, there isn't a lot of time left over for me to interact with everyone here on the forum. It won't always be that way but for now I need to continue working hard and splitting my time between two companies.
For those of you that are here to share and learn and enjoy each others company, we thank you for your support and are glad to have you here. For the ones that want to raise eyebrows and make accusations and basically cause trouble, please find another forum as we don't want you here.
Troy
The first thing I want to make clear is that DetailCity.org was not created simply to supply DetailCity.com or Autogeek.net with customers. It was created to give detailers and auto enthusiasts a place to share and learn from each other and educate the public as to what true detailing really is. in fact, the forum has been around long before the store existed.
Second thing I want to make clear is that Detail City (forum and store) is owned and operated by my wife Sheila and I in Sarasota Florida. Where as, Autogeek is owned and operated by Palm Beach Motoring, Inc. in Stuart Florida. We have business relationships with all of our sponsors and the Detail City Forums benefit from having each one of them including Autogeek on here to answer questions and inform us all of there latest products and info.
Do I like having such a strong competitor on the Detail City forums? As the owner of the forum, my answer is yes, because they have alot to offer you as members and it's what makes detail city what it is. As the owner of DetailCity.com, my answer is of course not, but I choose to look at them as I would a friend that I play tennis with. I play to win but shake hands between sets. Let me also say that the sponsors here, don't just get to be sponsors because they pay us. They are sponsors because we see them as an asset to all of you here.
I am excited about the direction Detail City is going. There are many great members here and we are growing everyday. To be honest with you all, I wish I could spend more time on here, but between helping Sheila run the store and also running a full time mobile auto detailing business with employees and find time for my two beautiful girls, there isn't a lot of time left over for me to interact with everyone here on the forum. It won't always be that way but for now I need to continue working hard and splitting my time between two companies.
For those of you that are here to share and learn and enjoy each others company, we thank you for your support and are glad to have you here. For the ones that want to raise eyebrows and make accusations and basically cause trouble, please find another forum as we don't want you here.
Troy
Troy@Protekt
a.k.a. Troy@DetailCity
jdoria said:
I just realized that this question was not answered by me, this thread got twisted into other topics pretty fast.
We are allowing members to post pics of any work they have done as long as the license plates are not readable. I have a personal desire to see our members have the freedom to post pictures, so I will be changing the rules. For now that is one rule that I am choosing not to enforce.
Troy
The Fuzz
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pogo123 said:
I agree too. We did have a problem in the past with people abusing the system and now we have addressed the issues and can proceed in a way that is conducive to the growth and vitality of Detail City.
SilverLexus
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Fair enough Troy but what is the problem with discussing other new products like those from Zaino? Wouldn't that make it a better community to have members learn about the best performing products from all companies? That way vendors can find which products people are excited about and possibly start stocking them if they don't already. That way everyone wins.
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