My Ultima Experience

Posted by davidb way back in Feb..



With Polycharger now released and in manufacturing, I can now turn my attention back to RDF (Red Dot Formula).



I mentioned a few months back that RDF is not the real name of this product line. It's time to announce the true product brand:



ULTIMA(tm)



The RDF code name came from an element in the ULTIMA logo, the red dot.



Why ULTIMA?



ULTIMA came as a result of my wanting a better product line... the best product line. My requirement was that every single protection product in the new line use true "polymer sealant" technology. Several chemists told me that what I wanted, for example the Tire & Trim Sealant, was impossible. One chemist, either unafraid or too stupid to know any better (I think it is the former), said he could do it. That man is Rick Vaal of Four Star Products.



Now, Rick and I have never worked together, but we soon found out we had something in common. If it ain’t right, stay up all night until it is! Rick has been amazing at taking some of my screwball ideas and making them work. For example, I want a car wash soap that will flood the neighborhood with suds and yet still rinse off easily… and it better not dull my finish! Rick did it! The ULTIMA wash soap is an amazing formulation that works, feels and smells like no other car wash soap I’ve ever used.



Who Owns ULTIMA?



People are going to ask this, so I might as well address it up front. The ULTIMA brand is owned by Premium Auto Care, LLC. This partnership and its operating agreement is being established specifically for the sales and distribution of the ULTIMA and Polycharger brands. Four Star Products has the exclusive chemical manufacturing agreement for these brands.



As part of the agreement, all ULTIMA formulations are new. It was my requirement that NOTHING start from existing formulations. I wanted new thinking, new chemicals and new manufacturing techniques. To this end, we have pushed the envelope in some key areas that will blow people’s minds in the coming months.
 
Thanks for the info, DanTheMan and SpoiledMan. I hadn't seen that info about the Ultima/Four Star alliance. Good stuff.



No, I haven't used UPPS... I was thinking about buying a bottle just to see how similar they are, but it looks like you've already done that homework. :)



Pictures of the final result will be posted soon.
 
I just got done applying the UPGP. I have never seen a more easily applied LSP. I think I made the typical new guy mistake, though; I over-applied it. It's definitely easier to apply this stuff under direct halogen lighting. Otherwise you'll end up over applying it. I put it on everything except the wheels. Total usage was approx. 1/4 oz. The MF covered applicator was just the right size, and it really helped keep the usage under control. Using a small applicator would be much tougher, and probably *really* easy to apply too much.



Over applying it does dull the appearance of the paint until it dries. That being the case, the pictures are going to have to wait for a while.
 
If you over apply can you wipe off the excess, or just have to wait until it dries and then all is good?



If you over apply Opti Seal you can use a MF and sprits it with water and take off the excess. Is this similar?
 
The directions say to *not* wipe off the excess. Just let it dry, and it'll look fine. So far, that's exactly what's happened, although I'm still waiting for one spot where I really got carried away to clear up.



The MF applicator did leave my car covered in MF lint, though.
 
Got them! I still like the look of your Vintage on that car, the yellow is more "pure" when it is on it. Thanks for the test, and will look for follow ups on the durability in the hostile Utah climate of winter. The car sitting in the airport parking lot is a great test, lots of dust, rain, and jet fuel overspray.
 
Greg Nichols said:
Got them! I still like the look of your Vintage on that car, the yellow is more "pure" when it is on it. Thanks for the test, and will look for follow ups on the durability in the hostile Utah climate of winter. The car sitting in the airport parking lot is a great test, lots of dust, rain, and jet fuel overspray.
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I admit that I like the look of the Vintage better, but then again I do prefer the look of carnauba over sealants. I'm not belittling the look of Ultima at all, though, it is an absolutely *stunning* sealant.



If the ease of cleaning and environmental protection are good, it will replace Zaino as my go-to sealant on client cars. It'll also take over LSP duties on the Sequoia, too. Right now I'm thinking that that might just be a bit too tall of an order to fill, though. Vintage is just so incredible in the protection and ease of cleaning categories, that I just have a hard time imagining a sealant doing as well. I *really* hope that Ultima can match it, though.



I'm going to put a second coat of Ultima on it in the morning.
 
SuperBee364 said:
Thanks for the info, DanTheMan and SpoiledMan. I hadn't seen that info about the Ultima/Four Star alliance. Good stuff.



No, I haven't used UPPS... I was thinking about buying a bottle just to see how similar they are, but it looks like you've already done that homework. :)
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UPPS is a spray sealant that needs to be spread and then dried while well, you know how PGP works.:)



Pictures are awesome. I'm really liking how it looks on yellow. For that matter I haven't seen a color that I don't like it on.:chuckle:
 
d2mini said:
Oh, ok. I didn't get the sampler, i got the full bottles.

Sounds like the same 23 page brochure that I got though.

I thought you meant you got an actual instruction booklet.
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It is, actually. It's instructions on the use of every product in the Ultima line up.
 
Thanks, Gents, it's been a fun test, for sure. Although I guess it's not going to be over for a while. Several categories have yet to be scored.



I just got done putting the second coat on, exactly 12 hours after the first. I'm shooting for 3 total coats.
 
The polish job (prep) looks great. Good job. It's hard to see LSP differences in photos, but the Ultima looks reflective and wet to me. Nice.



P.S. - I've seen a couple of the Lime Green Daytonas around, the look so sharp. Of course, the yellow is a looker as well.
 
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