!!!!! Meguiar's Lab Sample "d"!!!!!

[Nocholis Rimnson]

I don't think you should be allowed to mention stuff like this until it is almost ready to go on sale... It's not fair...

No Its NOT fair when Mike Brings out the lab sample Demos

The Lab sample In Front of you......The Results are Unreal.........

Then proceeds to say...SORRY You cant have this.........

Thats NOT FAIR!!!!!!!

 

[JustinR32]

It seems to me that, since Lab Sample D has been supplanted by Lab Sample E, there should be some use for all that obsolete product laying around the Meguiar's facility. I'll get rid of it for you, for $50.





Tom

 

[imported_memnuts]

Somewhat reminds me of the Blackfire prodromal. Several months of inhouse testing and public announcements of the progress.

Maybe Meguiar's will be as excited about their new product and offer free samples to Autopians like CMA did after the consumer production of BF began. :bounce

 

[imported_Greg1]

So after all this talk, I assume its going to be a consumer product? Not that I blame Meguiars, but as a detailer, people often ask me what products I use, I feel like I would be presenting an image of non professionalism when I bust out a product they can buy at Autozone. I'm certainly not complaining however, as I am always excited to try out new products.

Maybe I am dead nuts wrong and it will be in the Mirror Glaze, BSP, or Detailer line. That would be good as well as larger quantities!!

 

[Scottwax]

I agree with Greg 100%! I also hope it remains a professional line product....for the same personally selfish reasons as Greg!

 

[Mike_Phillips]

Question: will this product compliment my cabinet, or make it obsolete?

Tom

Hi Tom,



This single product will compliment your existing arsenal of detailing products, it will certainly not make them obsolete.



That said,



Today I took a look at, and gave an estimate to buff out 8 Show Cars for a couple I met through my recent Corvette clinic here at Meguiar’s.

After inspecting the cars and discussing the work, one of the owners asked me,



�After you're finished, what will we have to do to maintain these cars�



My answer was,



* Remove light dust, smudges and fresh contaminants using either Quik Detailer or Final Detail, (They’re going to purchase a gallon of Final Detail and pour it off into their collection of Quik Detailer bottles)



* Apply Lab Sample as needed. Because these cars are always garage kept, that could be as little as 1-2 times a year)



* Wipe down with Lab Sample Companion product as needed to maintain and touch-up darkness, clarity and shine, like after arriving at a show or setting up for display.



(A couple of these cars have been in multiple magazines, including the 1934 Ford which was used for a photo-spread for a popular Men’s magazine).



For the most part, they never wash these cars, because they never get dirty. (No need to introduce water to all the cracks and crevices to cars like these where it can potentially cause rust)



As you can see from the pictures, these cars have exceptionally nice, show car finishes to start with. What the owners want is the myriad of random, isolated, deeper scratches, (RIDS), removed, and the finishes on each of these cars taken to their Maximum Potential.



Of course I will use the Meguiar’s paint polishing system to remove the defects and bring the surface to a super smooth, high gloss finish, and then I will apply 2 thin coats of Lab Sample as a last step product.



I feel confident when I say, that after my final wipe using a microfiber polishing cloth, that no other product that I know of will make the finish, deeper, darker, wetter, or more reflective.



These products will never make the products in your cabinet obsolete, they will merely be another tool, in the tool box.

 

[Mike_Phillips]

Mike



The picture shows a Trigger Wash label in it, is that a new product and when will that be on the shelves.



Bob

Stockton

Good eye Bob,



I'm working on something in my book that I needed a picture of what I think is the first quick detailer introduced to the market.



It came out in 1988, (I think), and was called Trigger Wash, the formula was later was revamped and became M-34 Final Inspection.

 

[Mike_Phillips]

Question: Is LS "D" an improvement on #20 or #26, or is it a totally new product?

Lab Sample is a 100%, new and unique formula completely unlike any other formula ever created by Meguiar's, (or any other company for that matter).



It was completely engineered from raw materials, by Meguiar’s chemists, in what is referred to the Secret Room, right up the stairs and down the hall from my mess... I mean office.



My definition of the word office:



Office: A room with more stuff than shelves and drawers to contain everything.



(Yeah, yeah yeah... I'm all over it... I'll have it cleaned up in a jiffy, right after I do whatever else it is I'm working on...)



Lab Sample D/E is the Next Generation of state-of-the-art chemistry developed by Meguiar's for people who are passionate about their car’s finish, and in the case of people who detail cars professionally, their customer’s car’s finish.



Tomorrow, If I’m lucky, I will be meeting the owner of one of the original Batmobiles. If I’m even luckier, the owner will give me permission to detail his treasure. If I am granted this blessing, (a detailers dream come true), I will not hesitate to use this next generation of polymer technology as a last step product, (LSP), after first massaging-out the existing defects and bring the surface to a super smooth, high gloss finish.



In my life, without exception, every Car Show that I have went to, that featured a car like the Batmobile, or Cadizilla, (or whatever), in my eyes, the finish has looked like Dog Doo.



Dog Doo is a descriptive term I use to describe finishes that look horrible, i.e. finishes that are hazy, scratched and swirled-out.



Car’s like these should look like glistening gemstones, not as though they have been through a Slop & Glop detail shop and then subjected to a sand storm followed up by a detergent wash job.



This product is coming out in the Consumer line, but I have strongly urged that it is also made available in the Professional line for professional craftsman to showcase their talent and to help them to be successful, (i.e. make a profit)

 

[Mike_Phillips]

It seems to me that, since Lab Sample D has been supplanted by Lab Sample E, there should be some use for all that obsolete product laying around the Meguiar's facility. I'll get rid of it for you, for $50.



Tom

Sorry Tom... I used it up as fast as I could con the chemists out of it.

 

[Mike_Phillips]

So after all this talk, I assume its going to be a consumer product? Not that I blame Meguiars, but as a detailer, people often ask me what products I use, I feel like I would be presenting an image of non professionalism when I bust out a product they can buy at Autozone. I'm certainly not complaining however, as I am always excited to try out new products.

Maybe I am dead nuts wrong and it will be in the Mirror Glaze, BSP, or Detailer line. That would be good as well as larger quantities!!

:bow :bow :bow

 

[Mike_Phillips]

One question I haven't seen answered yet is whether or not it stains trim. I would think not being a polymer but, worth asking anyway



Thanks

It's not bad on trim. If you wipe it off right away, it's not a problem at all. If you don't, it's still not too bad. One thing about it though, it has staying power, that is... it bonds tightly. So it is a good idea to get it off of your trim, (just like any companies product).

 

[Deanski]

So Mike, is there a definitive release date on the new product?



When are you going to let the boys and girls of the "Lab of Shineology" release more samples prior to market?



I agree with both you and Greg on the avalibility to have it released first in the Pro line, Detail Line prior to consumer line in an effort to get the best results from it first by us in the field. Then as people see what can be done with this product a release to the consumer line should follow. Kind of like #34, FI. First we got our hands on it, now it's out to consumers as "Quick Detailer", which threw me the first time I saw it as I thought it was from the old Detailer line of the quick cleaner/wax we used to use. Remember the nice lavender looking QD?



Anyway, you're killing us with the results and nothing to try



Have a nice day, and put this product release into high-gear!



Regards,

Deanski

 

[imported_Aurora40]

Somewhat reminds me of the Blackfire prodromal. Several months of inhouse testing and public announcements of the progress.

Maybe Meguiar's will be as excited about their new product and offer free samples to Autopians like CMA did after the consumer production of BF began. :bounce

Yeah, it does me too a bit. In some ways MPPP is like the old Blackfire. It is easy to use, very durable, looks nice, but doesn't bead... This new lab sample sounds as intriguing to me as the new Blackfire was. I can't wait until it's released (and I hope it's a pro product too)!



And I'm glad Final Detail will still be around, as there isn't a thing I would change about it (unless there is some research underway to make it less addictive... ). Though a protectant companion spray will be pretty cool. I've always loved Meg's products, and it seems like they are finally making a protectant just for me (I realize it isn't really just for me...)!



I have to wonder how well that worked out for CMA, though. I was very glad to get the freebie of the new Blackfire, but it requires so little, my bottle is still practically full! I did then buy some of the QD and shampoo, but they seem pretty similar to most everything else. They didn't really wow me, though they are nice products.

 

[tonysandiego]

Since Mike used Lab Sample D on my hood at the St. Louis Autopia Day, I've thought about trying to sell it on e-bay! Only prboblem is that I would have to replace it and there is no Lab Sample E to make it shine! I would post a pic but BradB has them.



After 3-4 weeks it looks as good as the day it was done, and beads like crazy. I can't tell where the LS D stops and the Zaino starts! Sorry Mike, you embarrassed me into finsihing the rest of the car, and all I had around was Z5.



I look forward to redoing the car after the SEMA show. Still can't get that smell out of my head!

 

[madazskunk]

So after all this talk, I assume its going to be a consumer product? Not that I blame Meguiars, but as a detailer, people often ask me what products I use, I feel like I would be presenting an image of non professionalism when I bust out a product they can buy at Autozone. I'm certainly not complaining however, as I am always excited to try out new products.

Maybe I am dead nuts wrong and it will be in the Mirror Glaze, BSP, or Detailer line. That would be good as well as larger quantities!!



Maybe mike can convince them to have seperate packaging one for autzone and one for pro's. Just a thought.

 

[imported_memnuts]

After 3-4 weeks it looks as good as the day it was done, and beads like crazy. I can't tell where the LS D stops and the Zaino starts! Sorry Mike, you embarrassed me into finsihing the rest of the car, and all I had around was Z5.

Is LS D & E just a "me-to" Zaino. Sounds like the results, appearance and short term beading ability are equal. :nixweiss



Not a bad thing since most Meguiar products can be found locally. :xyxthumbs

 

[MBZ 500E]

Is LS D & E just a "me-to" Zaino. Sounds like the results, appearance and short term beading ability are equal. :nixweiss

Nope......The appearance of Lab Sample is on the opposite end of Zaino. While the Z5/Z2 Combo provides a highly reflective sharpe finish, the Lab Sample has more of a deep look to it. It's deeper than S100 and #26 (I did side by side comparisons). It's not quite a high gloss like S100. Lab Sample is a unique look really....it enhanced my Pearl Black nicely. The most amazing part of the Lab Sample is it's ability to hide swirls and light scratches, it also seems to make my acid rain marks less noticeable which really surprised me. It's almost like it takes the edge off of the scratches and make them more difficult to see. Another observation I made is Lab Sample doesn't fill paint chips with chaulky white residue, it wipes clean......very much like Zaino. The sample I tried protects very well, I had a yellow bird dropping on my hood that was there for 24 hours and it didn't etch the clear coat at all.



As everyone always says, "each product has it's unique benefits", I think Meguiars has taken the benefits of several products and put it into one.

 

[imported_memnuts]

Now I am realllllly anxious to get some.

Thanks Afshin

 

[rstype]

After 3-4 weeks it looks as good as the day it was done, and beads like crazy. I can't tell where the LS D stops and the Zaino starts! Sorry Mike, you embarrassed me into finsihing the rest of the car, and all I had around was Z5.

Steve, please keep us updated on how the beading (and slickness!) holds up. Do you agree with Afshin - is the LSD side deep and the Z side reflective? Or is it like the beading... can you not tell where the LSD stops and Z starts appearance-wise? (I can't with any product at all... IMO it's all in the head.)



I must admit, though, I'm somewhat skeptical and not too enthusiastic to try LSD. I've heard and tried so many new products that claim they're special and the best, but really never work as well as my favorites. Hopefully this will change.

 

[Scottwax]

Sounds to me the appearance is very #26 like, warm and wet looking. I like that look as much as S100's brighter look. If the durability is what is expected of a synthetic product and the ability to fill spider swirls holds up, I think it will do very well, especially in the professional ranks.