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TeutonicCarFan

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I have not seen too much discussion on this product. I was wondering if anyone has used it and what their thoughts on it were. If so, where does it fit in the detail process? Since we are talking about Zymol, would you suggest Zymol Carbon (I have a black car) or Souvern or P21S? If you have used these Zymol products please explain how you used it too....thanks:waxing:
 
The Hd cleanse I have used very recently for the first time. At first I wanted to throw the bottle against the wall since it was frustrating me so much then I calmed down and adjusted to its learning curve. The cleansing part is VERY GOOD. The problem I had at first is applying over a too large of an area. Advice is to work in small areas and dont the let the product dry even though it does it quickly. If it dries to quickly it will be a PITA to remove. I found the product does live up to its "cleanse" part and did that very well. I have used P21S Glosse enhacing polish (cleaner) before which is MUCH easier but didnt really have the cleansing effect I wanted.
 
Its a decent paint cleaner, that's all though. PITA to work with and there are better paint cleaners out there. If I had an old car with original paint, and my primary concern was keeping that paint alive, I would use HD cleanse, for daily drivers, its ridiculous.
 
yakky said:
Its a decent paint cleaner, that's all though. PITA to work with and there are better paint cleaners out there. If I had an old car with original paint, and my primary concern was keeping that paint alive, I would use HD cleanse, for daily drivers, its ridiculous.
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If it's such a PITA, why would you still use it in this one situation??? What other paint cleaners do you prefer and why would HD Cleanse still be better in this sort of case?
 
velobard said:
If it's such a PITA, why would you still use it in this one situation??? What other paint cleaners do you prefer and why would HD Cleanse still be better in this sort of case?
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The reason I would keep using it on a classic with original paint it is very gentle to paint and has oils which claim to "feed" the paint and no polishing agents to remove paint. Zymol seems to lean toward paint protection first. My favorite regular paint cleaner is the no longer available Meguiars body scrub. PS21 paint cleaner seems to be good too. There are not many cleaners around that don't have a polish in them.
 
I have used HD-Cleanse extensively. It's a little harder to work with, but only if you let it dry. Otherwise, I find it just as easy as any other product to use. Also, as others have already mentioned for a hand applied product it does a superior job cleaning the paint. Oxidation disappears and the surface is left super slick.



As far as what wax to follow up with, well that is a purely personal choice and only you can answer that question. I can however, share my personal experiences.



I've used P21S and been entirely unimpressed with it. In fact, I'm not sure why so many people like it so much. It's a great wax for topping sealants because it adds a little depth & wetness but on it's own I was unimpressed.



I've also used Souveran. It's a good wax and easy to use. It's loaded with oils so you get a really wet, deep shine. Of course, it's expensive but IMO the results you get are better than most other waxes costing less.



I've never used Carbon. Calgarydetail did a review of this wax not too long ago and he felt it was better than Souveran. Just one man's opinion though. I have used Zymol Concours which is a much different Zymol wax and I did feel it blew away Souveran.



In the end it's up to you to decide what you like best.
 
HD involves a little learning curve. That is ok as you remember to not get too eager and spread over too largea an area. As suggested, do maybe a 2 by 2 area and remove immediately. This doesnt take long to do the car (for me not much longer than Klasse SG). One of the best polishes by hand.

As Mikeyc said, I was not impressed with Ps21 as the other waxes. Carbon was better, and imo souveran was then better than Carbon (more wet and deep whereas carbon had better reflective and range). Again Zymol Concours is even better than these imo (but you pay for it $$$$$). I would suggest Chemical Guys 5050 - half the cost of souveran and is as good and more (characteristics of souveran but also the range capabilities like Zymol estate glazes), at least on my cars.
 
We at Wetwerks just recently tried the HD on both of our personal vehicles, a White Escalade and a Black CTS and as everyone here has said, it truely can be a royal PITA until you learn that you MUST do SMALL SECTIONS and REMOVE IMMEDIATELY. If the HD begins to dry and your micros are less than super-high quality, you will run the risk of ruining all the work you just did trying to remove it. We found out first hand on our test panel :angry , and the same rules apply for application and removal of the Zymol Estate Glazes (Titanium,Concours) and Hand-Crafted Waxes (Carbon).



That said, after 3-stepping both vehicles, (Compounding, Polishing, and Glazing with the HD being step 4) it still made the paint slicker than snot.



We then followed with the Concours Estate Glaze, applied by hand of course, and the results were stunning. Especially on the black. Under flourescent garage lighting, it appeared to have a chroming effect. Like a black-chrome liquid-metal look at certain angles.



If the Concourse is a little more than you want to spend, which is certainly understandable, and you are insistant on using Zymol, I'd try the low end of the Estate Glazes in the Titanium. Although it says it was formulated for S.U.V.'s, I'm sure it will be just fine on whatever your auto is.



Then there is the CG XXX which claims to contain as much Rare Brazilian No1. Pure White Carnauba as the Zymol Concours at a fraction (1/10th) of the cost. (Probably true, considering Zymol is the "marketing machine" as most every member here will attest to.) Don't get me wrong,the Zymol is a quality product, no doubt, but it is pricey and you can probably find a equally good product for less money in one of the CG products although we have yet to use either one. (I'm going strictly by what I've read here in that last statement)



The CG 50/50 doesn't specify its' Carnauba content or any application instructions but we've seen mostly rave reviews on it.



Below are direct links to the Zymol web-site for the products mentioned here, where you will find specific instructions for each product on its' respective webpage...



hd2



crecar2



TITAN2



concour2





...and here are the links to the CG paste waxes and their application instructions (if available).



Paste Wax



Paste Wax



If cost is a factor, CG is probably the way you want to go. If you want exclusivity in a boutique wax, Zymol is your stuff. Personally, and some may call us fools, we love the look on people's faces when we tell them what we spend on "car wax". Then they really freak when we tell them that one day we'll have some Vintage and Royale Estate Glazes and what they cost. :shocked



We love what Concours does for paint when applied properly and will be using both of the CG products ourselves here very soon. At that point we may find that CG will be the way we want go and Concours will be no longer a part of our arsenal, but we still, and always will, want those Vintage and Royale Glazes if for no other reason than "WOW" factor. (We're funny like that. That's how we roll. :getdown )



The bottom line is that the choice is yours and you will probably be very pleased with the results if you follow the processes as they're laid out.



I see no single-purpose HD Cleanse type cleaner in the CG lineup so ask yourself, "Do I even really need HD or is the Zymol Machine trying to suck me in for another $24-$39 because they say I need it?"



The flip side of that is, after dropping that kind of coin on the Zymol wax or Estate Glaze, what's another $24 to make sure you got it right the first time? I'd hate to go to all the trouble and realize once I was done, it looked like "donkey" and I had to start over after waiting to get my hands on the HD afterall.



Regardless of what you choose, follow the intructions verbatim and see how your results are before getting "creative" with your process.





Hope this helps. Let us all know what you decide to do and how it turns out.



Best of luck to you!



-Jason

Co-Owner/Tech. Adviser

Wet Werks Auto Salon
 
Wetwerks said:
We at Wetwerks just recently tried the HD on both of our personal vehicles, a White Escalade and a Black CTS and as everyone here has said, it truely can be a royal PITA until you learn that you MUST do SMALL SECTIONS and REMOVE IMMEDIATELY. If the HD begins to dry and your micros are less than super-high quality, you will run the risk of ruining all the work you just did trying to remove it. We found out first hand on our test panel :angry , and the same rules apply for application and removal of the Zymol Estate Glazes (Titanium,Concours) and Hand-Crafted Waxes (Carbon).



That said, after 3-stepping both vehicles, (Compounding, Polishing, and Glazing with the HD being step 4) it still made the paint slicker than snot.



We then followed with the Concours Estate Glaze, applied by hand of course, and the results were stunning. Especially on the black. Under flourescent garage lighting, it appeared to have a chroming effect. Like a black-chrome liquid-metal look at certain angles.



If the Concourse is a little more than you want to spend, which is certainly understandable, and you are insistant on using Zymol, I'd try the low end of the Estate Glazes in the Titanium. Although it says it was formulated for S.U.V.'s, I'm sure it will be just fine on whatever your auto is.



Then there is the CG XXX which claims to contain as much Rare Brazilian No1. Pure White Carnauba as the Zymol Concours at a fraction (1/10th) of the cost. (Probably true, considering Zymol is the "marketing machine" as most every member here will attest to.) Don't get me wrong,the Zymol is a quality product, no doubt, but it is pricey and you can probably find a equally good product for less money in one of the CG products although we have yet to use either one. (I'm going strictly by what I've read here in that last statement)



The CG 50/50 doesn't specify its' Carnauba content or any application instructions but we've seen mostly rave reviews on it.



Below are direct links to the Zymol web-site for the products mentioned here, where you will find specific instructions for each product on its' respective webpage...



hd2



crecar2



TITAN2



concour2





...and here are the links to the CG paste waxes and their application instructions (if available).



Paste Wax



Paste Wax



If cost is a factor, CG is probably the way you want to go. If you want exclusivity in a boutique wax, Zymol is your stuff. Personally, and some may call us fools, we love the look on people's faces when we tell them what we spend on "car wax". Then they really freak when we tell them that one day we'll have some Vintage and Royale Estate Glazes and what they cost.



We love what Concours does for paint when applied properly and will be using both of the CG products ourselves here very soon. At that point we may find that CG will be the way we want go and Concours will be no longer a part of our arsenal, but we still, and always will, want those Vintage and Royale Glazes if for no other reason than "WOW" factor. (We're funny like that. That's how we roll.)



The bottom line is that the choice is yours and you will probably be very pleased with the results if you follow the processes as they're laid out.



I see no single-purpose HD Cleanse type cleaner in the CG lineup so ask yourself, "Do I even really need HD or is the Zymol Machine trying to suck me in for another $24-$39 because they say I need it?"



The flip side of that is, after dropping that kind of coin on the Zymol wax or Estate Glaze, what's another $24 to make sure you got it right the first time? I'd hate to go to all the trouble and realize once I was done, it looked like "donkey" and I had to start over after waiting to get my hands on the HD afterall.



Regardless of what you choose, follow the intructions verbatim and see how your results are before getting "creative" with your process.





Hope this helps. Let us all know what you decide to do and how it turns out.



Best of luck to you!



-Jason

Co-Owner/Tech. Adviser

Wet Werks Auto Salon
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WOW, thanks for your kind and concise response to my question. To follow up, I have decided that I will go the Zymol route, I am just wondering about a sealant. I have a black 2001 Jetta that I take great care of with regards to wash/polish/was. This is the routine I plan on using on my car, I am wondering do I use a sealant and if so should I use the Zymol I have (I ahve Z-5 and Z-2, both pro).

Menzerna IP via rotary with an orange pad

Menzerna FPII via rotary with a white pad

QUESTION:

Will I have better results with the Concours if I go right to the HD then the EG, or should I put on a sealant and then wax. I am mostly worried about the final 'wow' not which will have prolonged protection because I wax monthly (most the time :)). If I do go with the sealant would FMJ via rotary with a black pad be the best, or the Zaino Z-5/Z-2?



HD-Cleanse by hand

Councours by hand



Thankss!!
 
TeutonicCarFan said:
WOW, thanks for your kind and concise response to my question. To follow up, I have decided that I will go the Zymol route, I am just wondering about a sealant. I have a black 2001 Jetta that I take great care of with regards to wash/polish/was. This is the routine I plan on using on my car, I am wondering do I use a sealant and if so should I use the Zymol I have (I ahve Z-5 and Z-2, both pro).

Menzerna IP via rotary with an orange pad

Menzerna FPII via rotary with a white pad

QUESTION:

Will I have better results with the Concours if I go right to the HD then the EG, or should I put on a sealant and then wax. I am mostly worried about the final 'wow' not which will have prolonged protection because I wax monthly (most the time :)). If I do go with the sealant would FMJ via rotary with a black pad be the best, or the Zaino Z-5/Z-2?



HD-Cleanse by hand

Councours by hand



Thankss!!
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I've read in the past that it's not wise to apply sealant before Zymol so when using Zymol, we haven't.



I've seen where guys do but with HD Cleanse in the picture, I wouldn't. That's just me.



Remember, Zaino is a polish first and foremost. It just happens to have fantastic shine and protection qualities.



If it were me. I'd see how the Menzerna polishes and the HD/Concours combo works out first. (The Carnauba will keep you protected for at least a month in the harshest of climates.)



If, after that, you feel as though you want to remove the wax and apply a sealant, (Zaino or FMJ) go for it. Just give whatever goes on before the HD Cleanse plenty of time to cure or you risk stripping off the protection you just put on.



I WOULD NOT however, apply any sealant or a liquid wax with a high-speed rotory. It can be done easiest with a PC or by hand and removed the same way. Much safer IMHO.



:secret If you want to use the Zaino, one trick I learned a long time ago is to moisten, NOT SATURATE, the applicator pad with some QD (preferably Z-6 since it's formulated to work with Z-2 and Z-5), then apply the polish to the pad. What this does is thin out the product making it go on and come off much easier. It won't compromise the properties of the Z-2 or the Z-5 and you're bottle will last you much longer. (I love these products! Some of my favorites to use!) Just don't completely saturate your pad.
 
This is my first post. I guess with my user nick zymöl , I should contribute a few comments. Having been personally trained at the Zymol factory in Connecticut by the president of Zymol - I was the first Factory trained Detailer & Retailer for Zymol Car Care products here in Canada. here goes:

- Zymol HD-Cleanse needs to be applied to even a brand new car first, prior to applications of any of their waxes or Estate Glazes.

- always evaluate the condition of the paint first. - often times it is necessary to use a Clay bar to clay even a brand new vehicle.

- so clay first if necessary, then use HD-Cleanse and use the HD-Cleanse on warm surfaces of your vehicle, doing a small section at a time.

- HD-Cleanse is a pure polish and astringent cleanse that contains NO paint killing petro chemicals. If your paint has heavy spider webbing, you will need to use a swirl remover with either a PC orbital or a rotary machine first. - then use the HD-Cleanse by hand.

- if you do not finish HD-Cleansing your entire vehicle in one day, then by all means wax all areas that you have HD-Cleansed.

- Zymol did have 2 other specially formulated HD-Cleanses for us professional detailers. It is Called HD-Cleanse with 10% Quartz Crystals. This particular HD-Cleanse was designed to be used with rotary machines to remove spider webbing and marring with fantastic results. The Quartz Crystals are ultra flat and gives an extremely uniform cutting action, and then they break down fairly quickly. Almost idiot proof.

- preparation is everything. However having top quality products from start to finish is what sets your finished vehicle apart from the crowd.

- Hope to add more to these discussions on an ongoing basis.
 
Zymol said:
This is my first post. I guess with my user nick zymöl , I should contribute a few comments. Having been personally trained at the Zymol factory in Connecticut by the president of Zymol - I was the first Factory trained Detailer & Retailer for Zymol Car Care products here in Canada. here goes:

- Zymol HD-Cleanse needs to be applied to even a brand new car first, prior to applications of any of their waxes or Estate Glazes.

- always evaluate the condition of the paint first. - often times it is necessary to use a Clay bar to clay even a brand new vehicle.

- so clay first if necessary, then use HD-Cleanse and use the HD-Cleanse on warm surfaces of your vehicle, doing a small section at a time.

- HD-Cleanse is a pure polish and astringent cleanse that contains NO paint killing petro chemicals. If your paint has heavy spider webbing, you will need to use a swirl remover with either a PC orbital or a rotary machine first. - then use the HD-Cleanse by hand.

- if you do not finish HD-Cleansing your entire vehicle in one day, then by all means wax all areas that you have HD-Cleansed.

- Zymol did have 2 other specially formulated HD-Cleanses for us professional detailers. It is Called HD-Cleanse with 10% Quartz Crystals. This particular HD-Cleanse was designed to be used with rotary machines to remove spider webbing and marring with fantastic results. The Quartz Crystals are ultra flat and gives an extremely uniform cutting action, and then they break down fairly quickly. Almost idiot proof.

- preparation is everything. However having top quality products from start to finish is what sets your finished vehicle apart from the crowd.

- Hope to add more to these discussions on an ongoing basis.
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Zymol-

Good additional info.

The clay bar is critical in producing a slick surface as well as making the finished product as reflective as it can possibly be. Kind of emabarrased that I left that important step out. To most it's a "given" but it I still should have mentioned it. Thank you for bringing it up.



Maybe you can help shed more light on the concerns of the sealant before the HD Cleanse/EG application for TeutonicCarFan. Was I correct in my statement that it's not wise to apply a sealant before HD Cleanse when using Zymol?



Although it was stated earlier in this post that the "wow" factor was most important to him in his finished product, I have found that most "new-school" detailers are looking for both the longevity of a sealant with the "POP" of the Carnauba. Is this a recommended practice with any Zymol products?



Your thoughts...
 
Wetwerks said:
Zymol-

Good additional info.

The clay bar is critical in producing a slick surface as well as making the finished product as reflective as it can possibly be. Kind of emabarrased that I left that important step out. To most it's a "given" but it I still should have mentioned it. Thank you for bringing it up.



Maybe you can help shed more light on the concerns of the sealant before the HD Cleanse/EG application for TeutonicCarFan. Was I correct in my statement that it's not wise to apply a sealant before HD Cleanse when using Zymol?



Although it was stated earlier in this post that the "wow" factor was most important to him in his finished product, I have found that most "new-school" detailers are looking for both the longevity of a sealant with the "POP" of the Carnauba. Is this a recommended practice with any Zymol products?



Your thoughts...
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HD-Cleanse is a pure polish and not a sealant. It produces great depth and shine and leaves the surface squeaky clean. This is necessary for the Zymol Waxes and Glazes to properly bond to the cleansed and squeaky cleaned paint surface. Therefore you would NOT use HD-Cleanse after a sealant. If you did, the HD-Cleanse would remove your sealant.

- If a person wants to use a sealant after using HD-Cleanse, then you will have to find a sealant that will be compatible with the final coats of Zymol Waxes or Glazes you plan on using.

- All the vehicles we have done in the past were done with claying if necessary, then swirl removal with rotary machines or PC, then HD-Cleanse, then hand finish with Zymol Waxes or Glazes. We did not use any sealant after the HD-Cleanse, and we primarily worked on high end luxury & exotic vehicles.

- I'd be interested in hearing from others which brands of sealants they have used after using HD-Cleanse and finishing with Zymol waxes, and your thoughts. Non compatible sealants will result in the wax not properly bonding, and the wax will not last that long. Then people will blame the wax for not holding up, rather than their preparation and selection of compatible sealants.

- The Zymol Estate Glazes definitely do produce that wow finish, but they are time consuming to apply.
 
Zymol said:
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HD-Cleanse is a pure polish and not a sealant. It produces great depth and shine and leaves the surface squeaky clean. This is necessary for the Zymol Waxes and Glazes to properly bond to the cleansed and squeaky cleaned paint surface. Therefore you would NOT use HD-Cleanse after a sealant. If you did, the HD-Cleanse would remove your sealant.

- If a person wants to use a sealant after using HD-Cleanse, then you will have to find a sealant that will be compatible with the final coats of Zymol Waxes or Glazes you plan on using.

- All the vehicles we have done in the past were done with claying if necessary, then swirl removal with rotary machines or PC, then HD-Cleanse, then hand finish with Zymol Waxes or Glazes. We did not use any sealant after the HD-Cleanse, and we primarily worked on high end luxury & exotic vehicles.

- I'd be interested in hearing from others which brands of sealants they have used after using HD-Cleanse and finishing with Zymol waxes, and your thoughts. Non compatible sealants will result in the wax not properly bonding, and the wax will not last that long. Then people will blame the wax for not holding up, rather than their preparation and selection of compatible sealants.

- The Zymol Estate Glazes definitely do produce that wow finish, but they are time consuming to apply.
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Thats some really good info. I just got my jar of concours so I will have to do a few "exeperments". I will have to make another order for more clense here soon to do it :woot: (used all mine up on my carbon)



on a side note... do you know if zymol will be brining the peable beach sampler bacK?.. I want to try some of the higher end Estate glazes such as vintage but I dont 2 grand to try a wax hee hee.. so we all want it.. and you know you want to make it :dance
 
calgarydetail said:
Thats some really good info. I just got my jar of concours so I will have to do a few "exeperments". I will have to make another order for more clense here soon to do it :woot: (used all mine up on my carbon)



on a side note... do you know if zymol will be brining the peable beach sampler bacK?.. I want to try some of the higher end Estate glazes such as vintage but I dont 2 grand to try a wax hee hee.. so we all want it.. and you know you want to make it :dance
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I'd like to know the story with the PB sampler as well. Maybe I'll give Zymol a call on Monday. I have the sampler kit and I love using the waxes in it.



On the subject of using a sealant under Zymol . . . I did an experiment where I coated part of my car in Wolfgang DGS and part in Menzerna FMJ. Then, I covered the whole car in Zymol Vintage. I really felt the sealant took away from the look you get with just Zymol. Everything that sets Zymol apart like the deep reflections, the color reproduction in reflections, and the sharpness of reflections were all muted. The Zymol did seem to apply easier over the sections with Wolfgang compared to the sections with FMJ. However, since the "wow" factor was noticeably reduced I won't be bothering with the sealant underneath anymore.
 
Zymol said:
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HD-Cleanse is a pure polish and not a sealant. It produces great depth and shine and leaves the surface squeaky clean. This is necessary for the Zymol Waxes and Glazes to properly bond to the cleansed and squeaky cleaned paint surface. Therefore you would NOT use HD-Cleanse after a sealant. If you did, the HD-Cleanse would remove your sealant.

- If a person wants to use a sealant after using HD-Cleanse, then you will have to find a sealant that will be compatible with the final coats of Zymol Waxes or Glazes you plan on using.

- All the vehicles we have done in the past were done with claying if necessary, then swirl removal with rotary machines or PC, then HD-Cleanse, then hand finish with Zymol Waxes or Glazes. We did not use any sealant after the HD-Cleanse, and we primarily worked on high end luxury & exotic vehicles.

- I'd be interested in hearing from others which brands of sealants they have used after using HD-Cleanse and finishing with Zymol waxes, and your thoughts. Non compatible sealants will result in the wax not properly bonding, and the wax will not last that long. Then people will blame the wax for not holding up, rather than their preparation and selection of compatible sealants.

- The Zymol Estate Glazes definitely do produce that wow finish, but they are time consuming to apply.
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See there. Precisely why we haven't done it. We'd have done it wrong. I would have thought that once the sealant had fully cured and since the HD is an organic product, it wouldn't have stripped the sealant off and would be o.k. to apply afterword leaving the "sealed AND cleansed" paint ready for the Zymol. Since I am not by any means a chemist, I'll be avoiding trying to find the sealant that "works with" Zymol.



Thank you for the clarification. you just saved us a bunch of time in trial and error R&D .



-J
 
In terms of HD Cleanse: I have found it to be a very good, non abrasive cleaner that can be used either by hand or by machine. In hindsight I do remember it being a tad tough to buff off, but it wasn't an issue where it posed any real difficulty or a dilemma. If you are doing your detail by hand, then you can simply use it to remove your current lsp and then apply any of Zymol's waxes.



IMO to obtain the best response from your paint and the wax, I would recommend that you use a good polish by either a pc or random (you should select how abrasive you want the polish relative to the condition of your paint), and then use HD Cleanse as a non abrasive cleaner, followed by the Zymol or lsp of your choice.



In terms of the Zymol wax, I'll leave Mickeyc, 01bluecls, Asharna and Calgary's comments (and anyone else I didn't mention) to describe its amazing qualities. You will not be disappointed in any event. Good luck.
 
Wetwerks said:
See there. Precisely why we haven't done it. We'd have done it wrong. I would have thought that once the sealant had fully cured and since the HD is an organic product, it wouldn't have stripped the sealant off and would be o.k. to apply afterword leaving the "sealed AND cleansed" paint ready for the Zymol. Since I am not by any means a chemist, I'll be avoiding trying to find the sealant that "works with" Zymol.



Thank you for the clarification. you just saved us a bunch of time in trial and error R&D .



-J
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Agreed, I would have messed it up to. NickZymol....how do you go about getting trained by Zymol/how much does it cost i would be very interestred. Sorry I am asking so many questions about Zymol and subsequently Menzerna but I have never used them and I am planning on starting to do so on my 2001 BLACK Jetta glx vr6. I have detailed for 3.5+ years at the local Land Rover store, and I LOVE it because from a kid the Range Rover was my favorite vehicle. At work we use Mirror Glaze lineup and 3m, and some wellworth (they have a great tire shine). I wanted to work some of these products into the supply there, because I am the one who does the ordering, but because we are a part of an auto-conglomerate it was extremely difficult to do through billing. Plus, I was making the trucks look great with what we had so they didn't see the need :/. I would do some detailing on the side because you can make A LOT more money but I don't have the time with my classes (biomedical sciences major @ UB), and working at a store means I don't need to get insurance, etc. On my car I have consistentely kept up with the paint, clay baring when necessary and polishing and then waxing. I would use the Mirror Glaze (meguiars) to polish and NXT generation to wax. I just want to try something new, and I got my hands on a container or Creme and it was AWESOME, thus I am buying Concours and HD cleanse for my personal car, along with IP, and FPII. This is what I paln on doing and if anyone sees and errors feel free to yell at me!

(I would clay bar but it doesn't need it)

IP via orange pad and rotary

FPII via white pad and rotary

(maybe another application of FPII at a lower speed with the black pad? after some cure time).

HD-Cleanse - by hand

Concour - by hand (literally).



Questions:

What, if anything, should I use on the paint between IP and FPII ? (QD?)

Same goes for between HD and Concours?

Sam goes for after Concours?



I will put another layer of wax on a week after, should I wash and use HD, then concours or just the concours??



Every month for the next few months I will then put on a layer of concours (note I park indoors), should I HD and the put on the concours or just apply the EG?



Thanks, sorry if I am an idiot I am just stepping outside of what I am familiar with!!



P.S. you guys are great and extremely knowledgeable. I am going to bring my camera to work to get some before/after of the next supercharged range i do:)

P.P.S. Sorry for typos, I am in a hurry because the Sabres game is on soon (GO SABRES)
 
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