Found Dalton's 61 steps...

superstring said:
Hey baseballlover, why don't you answer the question? Have you actually seen the results of a Paul Dalton detail? Or are you just trying to stir the sh*t?



How can you see the results? He doesn't post sun shots (usually). Most of this cars look like clean cars in reflective areas and look no better (and maybe worse) then most people on here do...



He uses 3M Fast Cut, so he is filling in a lot of defects anyways(this is a joke, and an inside one at that)...



Let's put this in perspective..



No dealership would pay close to that amount for a detail. I have spoken with more then several people who would vouche that Paul has done a lot of details for free for dealerships (including just washing) to booster his portfolio. I don't know or really care if that is true and can understand why he would, but there is a reason why there is not a lot of before/afters of his work, or sun shots for that matter. It also explains why most of the cars on his site are at dealerships... It is very hard to judge the work we a lot of the evidence doesn't exist.



Any detailer on here can do a free detail for a dealership, post zero sun shots or very few before and afters, and claim they charge a huge amount. I am not saying this is what Paul does, just say that several detailers, product sellers, and others in the UK who are familar with Paul's work (who all say is good) have told me.



The only free cars I do are my parents and sometimes my wifes.



1)Place grit guard in one bucket

2) Place grit guard in two bucket

3) Hook up hose to faucet

4) Hook up hose to water deionized

5) Hook up exit hose

6) Fill bucket one with 4.85 gallons water

7) Fill bucket two with 4.73 gallons water

8) Place natural sheepskin mitt into water.

9) Hook up hose to Karcher Pressure washer

10) Wash roof under pressure

11) Wash front fender....



That is my 124532 step super detail (only 7 dollars a step ;) )
 
I want to see if he could do work for me. But instead of paying for all the steps I’ll ask if he could leave out the rinse and remove parts of the detail.

Seriously, do any of us not rinse the cars of soap or remove the wax. Give me a break.

Advertising wiz, and decent detailer.

I think he has done great for himself and I hope he continues to do so. But I do think he is a lot of hype. I guess that makes me jealous. :nixweiss
 
He's a marketing genius, but does good work
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Envy is one of the worst trait a human can have.



All of you jealous peopel who judge PD and his work should look in the mirror. You will see someone I would never want to be.



Todd, that is why you will never be like PD. He has class.



Why don't you bring up Polished Blissed as well while you are at it. They use FCP to cut as well, so I guess Clark is also fiiling and not correcting.



So that would make YOU the BEST detailer in the world wouldn't it?



Yeah, let's all :bow:bow:bow:bow:bow:bow to Todd. I don't think so.



I lost the little respect I still had for you. :down:down:down:down:down:down





Daniel, just because you detailed a Ferrari, doesn't mean that now you have the right to bad mouth other people, who BTW are a lot better than you. PD has been detailing longer than you have been alive. Be humble.





Now what both of you should do instead is come up with something different that CAN put more $$$$ in your pockets and focus on that.



Market your skills in a unique but constractive way and when you become half the person/detailer PD is maybe you will be lucky enough not to have to read some looser's post on a detailng forum.
 
I just took a look in the mirror and to tell you the truth, I think you would want to be me. I’m damn sexy and I just got my hair cut. Plus my sweet tan is killing at the clerbs…. Sorry, I meant to say clubs but these girls are all over me right now and its hard to type.

So please excuse me while I go look in the mirror again. Its so hard being so pretty. :2thumbs:
 
[quote name='tdekany']Envy is one of the worst trait a human can have.



All of you jealous peopel who judge PD and his work should look in the mirror. You will see someone I would never want to be.



Todd, that is why you will never be like PD. He has class.



Why don't you bring up Polished Blissed as well while you are at it. They use FCP to cut as well, so I guess Clark is also fiiling and not correcting.



So that would make YOU the BEST detailer in the world wouldn't it?



Yeah, let's all :bow:bow:bow:bow:bow:bow to Todd. I don't think so.



I lost the little respect I still had for you. :down:down:down:down:down:down





I respect Paul regardless of anything else because he as brought more attention to everybody.



As far as Polished Bliss, Clark is definetely one of the guys I look up to professionally as well as looking up to you. My comment about Fast Cut filling (it does) was more tongue in check and a joke to myself, I didn't think it would cause such an uncontrolable reaction in yourself. Obviously any product in the hands of a skilled user will work (including Clark, Paul, or whoever). It was a joke, lighten up.



The only person who has proclaimed that I think I am the best in the world is you, and you have done it repeadetly. I admit right off the bat that I think Ryan Blanchette is far more skilled then I am (amongst others whom I constantly strive to achieve). I do think that I am very good however, and I am sorry if that rubs you the wrong way.



I hope your day gets better Thomas.
 
baseballlover1 said:
and why is he sanding the paint?....



i only wetsand when necessary to remove defects or EXTREME orange peel.
Since when are you the last word on wetsanding, detailing, or anything in general, for that matter?



Paul Dalton may include alot of hype and self-promotion in his advertising which turns me off...but a certain few here are exhibiting the same qualities. It's really disgusting.
 
Picus said:
You guys might want to chill. Just a thought, I think I smell Tort.



Agreed. Maybe it's best to take your insecurities somewhere else? If not, I'd say just lock it down and call it a day. Just a thought.
 
I think I am the best in the world



Did you not PMed Username that you are?



Putting down someone's work repeatedly doesn't = respect in case you didn't know.



If a "filling" polish in the right hands doesn't matter why bring it up?
 
Just to add food for thought and stand up for Todd’s ability as a professional: For comparison purposes, I can honestly say that Todd is one of the most talented paint correctionists/businessman/marketers I’ve witnessed in my near 20 year detailing career. We can all thank Todd for his efforts on polishing, scratch refinement, appearance and thread creativity & his pursuit to recreate the benchmark standard for what many on this forum have evolved into. I recently had the pleasure of watching him work on a red Ferrari F-50 that the owner’s Butler decided to wash with a sand contaminated wash mitt along with the 10 other vehicles he owns (Bugatti / SLR / Enzo / Murci / Maserati to name a few). Interesting thing is that Todd traveled over 200 miles to S. Florida just to satisfy his client’s needs and at the same time earning $4000 for his craft on each vehicle. I was amazed how well Todd did at reinforcing to the owner the value of spending $40,000+ for him to correct the damaged vehicles paint compared to the diminished value he would have lost if each vehicle were to be refinished. I’m not sure how many professional detailers earn this kind of money by instilling value & are booked for months on end? I’m not sure how many have the ability to market themselves to this degree? I’m not sure how many professional detailers would/could attempt this without 1 ounce of hesitation:



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Due to the unique marketing approach Todd uses, it creates an overwhelming demand from the most elite car collectors who demand his services without sparing a single expense. I’d be willing to compare Todd’s resume & W-2’s with any detailer’s on this planet. Is income a determinant of success = yes. Have I thought at 1 time or another that Todd came across strong to some = yes. Is he a marketing genius = to many. I guess he demands the absolute best there is to offer; just like his clients. I, unlike some, have grown to respect Todd’s skills as a revolutionary & groundbreaking detailer. Keep up the good work! :2thumbs:
 
tdekany said:
Did you not PMed Username that you are?



Putting down someone's work repeatedly doesn't = respect in case you didn't know.



If a "filling" polish in the right hands doesn't matter why bring it up?



I get it now Thomas...



You and Username (and whoever else I upset by speaking the truth) are obviously spending your free time talking about me and I must say that I am glad to be important enough for you to discuss.



Let me clarify my statement to him and you so you can stop gossiping..okay.



I feel (in my heart) that I am as good as anybody at 'detailing'. I think this is a combination of creative thinking, anal personallity, and a desire and passion for my work. I would say that I am the best in the world (as well as other people, it is obviously a shared title) because I have a lot of experience doing a lot of 'perfection jobs'.



However it doesn't mean I am the best at any particular faucet of detailing, there are many people who are better (maybe far better) at particular areas. I try to research and speak to these people frequently so that I can get better at particular areas and be the complete package.



When it comes to paint correction, I feel the best in the world, bar-none, is Ryan Blanchette. I would think that his efforts and mine have improved not only our skills, but others. However when I am stumped on a problem regarding paint correction he is hte first I call and he can solve it is seconds. The results we both achieve are similar and stellar but his experience and knowledge suprasses mine. However when it comes to show car perfect detailing I have more experience in marathon details then he does. Once again our results will be similar, but I would be quicker, more effectient, because of experience and knowledge.



So in paint correction there are still a couple guys I aim for (Ryan Blancette and Jose Fernandez for example) but I would put my total package against anybody. In fact I told Joe (SuperiorShine) that he is my idol, he countered that I was his. He will tell you I know more about detailing then him, I will tell you he is better then me. The reality is I think he is amazing and am honored that he holds my work in high regard.







You may say that sounds arrogant or maybe ignorant and thats fine Thomas. But I challange that if I didn't believe in my abilities as a detailer (which I do) then I would have no right to work on the vehicles I do or charge the amount I charge.



Hopefully this can prevent two professional grown men from gossiping about me in the future, but if you would like me to clarify anything else that you guys have gossipped about feel free to ask. Please don't do it in an attacking manner on a thread (again).



Let me also finish by clarifiying that professional I respect Paul Dalton's approach to detailing and his success.



But as a fan of detailing (and not a peer) I find his approach to be a little like Zymol. A lot of mystism that isn't needed, but the results are still great.
 
Todd - FWIW I look up to you and alot of other people on this forum for your/there abilities as a detailer. The quality work you and others put out its very amazing. Keep up the good work!
 
TH0001 said:
I get it now Thomas... You and Username (and whoever else I upset by speaking the truth) are obviously spending your free time talking about me and I must say that I am glad to be important enough for you to discuss.



1 - no you don't get it.



2 - don't flatter yourself. i am definately not wasting my time thinking about you.



3 - no one said anything about your ability or lack of ability.



HOWEVER HERE IS WHAT THE PROBLEM IS:::::



This is the second time that I have seen you try to discredit Paul Dalton.



Now tell me why that is. He didn't do anything to you did he?



One can only assume that there is something about him that bothers you.



Based on your posts I see envy. That is my issue with you.



Unless you can prove that he only fills and doesn't correct, your accusations are extremely UNPROFESSIONAL.



DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT HE HAS BUILT HIS BUSINESS BASED ON LIES???



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