FK425 is awesome!

I don't use much QD, I used up all my pb spray and wipe, it works great for bird bombs, water spots or for just light dusting of the entire car, leaving a pretty slick surface. I also used megs last touch, which had less cleaning abilty, but gave my car a very glossy look. looked like i just spent the day detailing it, took me about 20 minutes to do the entire car.



how does fk425 compare to last touch and S&W?
 
cleaning power goes to S&W by far, since well it's waterless wash. but for me, 425 leaves a slicker finish, far less dust.
 
Accumulator said:
One product in that category that I *do* like is Griot's SpeedShine. It leaves a pretty remarkable amount of wax behind and I've not noticed any dust attraction/retention issues. It's the one leaves-stuff-behind QD that I reach for as often as FK425.
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:woot2: :bow :woohoo: :clap:



I LOVE hearing someone besides myself mention Speed Shine! Reminds me that I'm not in fact crazy for enjoying it so much.



I think I'll give my two year old bottle of 425 one last shot because there are an overwhelming number of people who like it a lot. Maybe I'm using the wrong towels? Mostly Cobras, and some PakShaks.... although the towel I just got from Adam's (their new blue plush ones) is absolutely the nicest towel I have laid my hands on. They're kinda proud of them, though :faint:
 
BlackSunshine said:
..I think I'll give my two year old bottle of 425 one last shot because there are an overwhelming number of people who like it a lot. Maybe I'm using the wrong towels?
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I haven't noticed the FK425 being especially towel-sensitive, but my overall favorite approach is to use either *very* plush MF mitts or CBTs. I suspect the CBTs result in using a *lot* more product, but I kinda like the way cotton absorbs the liquid as opposed to the way MF adsorbs it.
 
BlackSunshine said:
:woot2: :bow :woohoo: :clap:



I LOVE hearing someone besides myself mention Speed Shine! Reminds me that I'm not in fact crazy for enjoying it so much.



I think I'll give my two year old bottle of 425 one last shot because there are an overwhelming number of people who like it a lot. Maybe I'm using the wrong towels? Mostly Cobras, and some PakShaks.... although the towel I just got from Adam's (their new blue plush ones) is absolutely the nicest towel I have laid my hands on. They're kinda proud of them, though :faint:
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Would you say that Speed Shine is better over waxed surfaces and 425 over sealant?
 
If you all like 425 (I sure do too), give 146 a try when you've got a little bit of dirt to remove. I like 146 for cleaning up brake dust off wheels between washes and the anti-dust properties of both products is noticeable compared to other detailing sprays.
 
Landcruiser- Ever use ONR? I'm wondering how the FK146 compares to ONR (at QD strength) :think:





zzzzdoc said:
Would you say that Speed Shine is better over waxed surfaces and 425 over sealant?
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Yeah, that's *my* take on the two products. The FK425 sure isn't *bad* over wax, but I still use the two products in that way.
 
I use ONR almost exclusively. And this an interesting question. I generally just mix up ONR in one of those sprayers at wash strength and mist it on my wheels when I'm doing the ONR wash--I do the wheels first. I'll hit the front wheel on one side, spray it with ONR, then let it dwell and spray the rear wheel. I'll proceed to clean the front wheel while the rear wheel ONR is dwelling. Then do the rear wheel and repeat this process on the other side. I might take a little 146 to the caliper area and get at it with a foam stick, Q-tip or whatever. I suspect the "cleaning" ability of each product is similar, but I don't know about the anti-static properties of ONR v. 425/146. I know that here in So Cal, when we get the Santa Ana winds blowing up all that dust, IMHO the 425 really does reduce dust accumulation--I'd say by about 50%, maybe more.



Add ONR: I like Patrick's trick of misting panels with ONR and letting it dwell a bit before washing. However, if I just want to give the wheels a quick brake dust removal, I tend to go for the 146. I think that both 425 and 146 are both exceptional on Japanese metallics.
 
landcruiser- Hmm, interesting. As you use the FK146 on the calipers, I sort infer that it cleans better than the ONR, but then again a) I might be inferring incorrectly ;) and/or b) my use of ONR at QD strength might make a bid difference. Heh heh, guess I'm still :think:



As for the anti-static properties, I'll still be finishing up with a quick spritz of FK425 no matter what I do; it's sorta become my SOP on wheels.



I was asking as I'm pretty happy using the ONR for unconventional-method cleaning but I need to order more FK425 sometime and if I wanted to try the FK146 it'd make sense to order both at the same time.
 
Until your post, I guess I never really gave it much thought as to which one might have more cleaning ability than the other. Probably because I haven't used ONR but a couple of times at QD strength since I have a gallon of 425 and 146. On my mettalic gray Landrcuiser, I tend to hit it with 146 with dirt accumulation that I wouldn't dream of QDing off the black Porsche:lol
 
zzzzdoc said:
Would you say that Speed Shine is better over waxed surfaces and 425 over sealant?
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I just honestly haven't had much luck with 425 over ANYTHING, but I'm going to try my CBT's as Accumulator suggested and maybe I will change my mind. Regarding Speed Shine, it does have some carnauba in it. According to customer service at Griot's, the carnauba content is less than 1%, however Accumulator and myself have both found similar results with regards to localized beading after use, which seems to indicate it's got some decent carnauba content to it. I certainly wouldn't use it between layers of sealant, but it is one of my VERY favorites over carnauba AND sealant (when I'm done layering).



I love using the 8 ounce size on my chrome wheels, exhaust tips, door jambs, under the hood, etc. as it has a PERFECT spray pattern and the bottle is easy to handle.
 
BlackSunshine said:
I just honestly haven't had much luck with 425 over ANYTHING, but I'm going to try my CBT's as Accumulator suggested and maybe I will change my mind. Regarding Speed Shine, it does have some carnauba in it. According to customer service at Griot's, the carnauba content is less than 1%, however Accumulator and myself have both found similar results with regards to localized beading after use, which seems to indicate it's got some decent carnauba content to it. I certainly wouldn't use it between layers of sealant, but it is one of my VERY favorites over carnauba AND sealant (when I'm done layering).



I love using the 8 ounce size on my chrome wheels, exhaust tips, door jambs, under the hood, etc. as it has a PERFECT spray pattern and the bottle is easy to handle.
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Yeah, I use it a bunch as a QD over Souveran.



It is a little annoying how it continually separates in the bottles, though. So new bottles definitely are different composition than used ones. Not sure how much it matters, except when I've gotten the gallon size and seen big differences towards the end of the container.
 
zzzzdoc said:
It is a little annoying how [SpeedShine] continually separates in the bottles, though. So new bottles definitely are different composition than used ones. Not sure how much it matters, except when I've gotten the gallon size and seen big differences towards the end of the container.
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Heh heh, you should see it after a gallon sits on the shelf in a storage room for a few years :o It does seem to mix up again with some vigorous shaking, but yeah, the separation sure does get your attention.



When the stuff finally goes bad (and it takes a long, long, time), it gets very thin looking and much more clear; pretty obvious (sorta like what happens when Meg's #34 goes bad).
 
Accumulator said:
Heh heh, you should see it after a gallon sits on the shelf in a storage room for a few years :o It does seem to mix up again with some vigorous shaking, but yeah, the separation sure does get your attention.



When the stuff finally goes bad (and it takes a long, long, time), it gets very thin looking and much more clear; pretty obvious (sorta like what happens when Meg's #34 goes bad).
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yeah, I have seen that. I guess I'm a stirred not shaken kind of guy.;)
 
Yeah it definitely does take some shaking to keep it all homogenized. I usually shake it every couple of panels just to be sure. I'm assuming the white is the liquid carnauba. There is also a small layer of clear liquid that will form at the top of it sits for a few days without use. Not sure what that would be. Silicone maybe?
 
Try 108 top cote.



I just got the sampler kit and have some other samples of FK coming. I have used 2180, 216, and 108 so far. I like all three and look forward to trying the rest of my samples.
 
I confess - I haven't tried any FK products yet. My wife is thinking I have a "problem" and I'm trying to limit my future purchases to QD's, Sealers and Waxes. Even I think I have enough washes, compounds, polishes and tire dressings. I've tried most of Meg's, all WG, DG, XMT, a lot of OTC's and HiTemp, plus a slew of rebadged CG stuff I get locally. I was thinking 425, Pink Wax and maybe 2180?
 
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