Favorite Rinseless Wash as of Sept. 2012?

Garry Dean said:
IUDJ is getting a makeover in a big way! Just wait until you see what is in store... (the product isnt changing)
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Hmmm. I'm wondering if I should give this IUDJ a try ;).
 
Mush-Mouth said:
Do you think AutoGeek manufactures ANY of their products? Not a chance in hell. They have their vendors like 4Star, Menzerna and Optimum copy their existing product to look and smell different to make people think they are buying some special product. Its all the same stuff



Read this thread so you can understand this concept a little better

http://www.autopia.org/forum/epic-threads/54389-boutique-=-rebottled-pro-=-rip-off.html
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Regardless of who makes what and who relabels what, in my real world use, ONR is much better than the DP waterless, for example, so it can't really be the same. Other brands, I can't say as I've not used them all.
 
I've only used ONR v2, v3, and DP Rinseless.



DP Rinseless was very disappointing. Cleaned poorly but left a nice gloss.



ONR v2 was excellent in cleaning and gloss. DP had the edge in gloss. ONRv2 cleaned MUCH better though (after all, isn't that the real requirement for a good car wash?)



Now that I've gone through half a gallon of ONRv3 I can't imagine anyone improving on this evolved version. It cleans better than v2 by quite a bit, dries easier, and leaves a carnauba wax look that it deep, thick and slick to the touch. It definitely leaves decent protection behind because each wash is easier than the last, contaminants release easier, and beading improves. Best value too.
 
Mush-Mouth said:
I never stated DP waterless is the same thing as ONR did I? And if it were, then from your real world testing, it appears that Optimum saved the better version for their name.
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I meant DP Rinseless, not waterless, and you said "Most of these options are just relabels.", that's why I asked for further clarification.
 
IHA Mark said:
Interesting, what is your headliner cleaning method?
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Well dampened towel with ONR, wipe down the headliner.



Alfisti said:
each wash is easier than the last, contaminants release easier, and beading improves. Best value too.
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I think that's the best part.
 
I just tried some Blackfire and it does leave a nice glossy surface. I have not used it enough to decide if I like it better than ONR but would use either without hesitation.



I have not tried Gary Dean's product yet but it is on the list.



As for relabels, it is more than just same product with a different label. Most are tweaked to suit their needs (beyond scent, color). For example, Adam's soap and detail spray were supposed clones of CG. I purchased both from both and did side by side. In both cases, I found they were not the same products despite similar color and scent. I am sure Gary Dean worked to have his products made to his custom specifications.
 
Bunky said:
As for relabels, it is more than just same product with a different label. Most are tweaked to suit their needs (beyond scent, color). For example, Adam's soap and detail spray were supposed clones of CG. I purchased both from both and did side by side. In both cases, I found they were not the same products despite similar color and scent.
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Thats because CG isnt the one who relabels those for them
 
Bunky said:
I am sure Gary Dean worked to have his products made to his custom specifications.
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Correct, mine are custom formulas, not "tweaked" versions of current products though.
 
I believe you.



I think most of the others called out as relabelers by some would say the same thing as well. In the CG-Adams example (often repeated here at Autopia), I wanted to find out myself.
 
You would be amazed with how much relabeling there is in the detailing market. And I'm not referring to reformulation either.....:tape:
 
I wish someone would just throw out who makes who so we can stop speculating.



For what it's worth, I love ONR V3, but all I have used is that and ONR V1
 
Leadfootluke said:
I wish someone would just throw out who makes who so we can stop speculating.
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Trouble is if that information were ever to conclusively get out, it would completely KILL a lot of brands... we'd all just go straight to the source and get it cheaper than through one of the relabelers.
 
Not that I can name names, but we relabel and reformulate for several well known waterless products. :love:
 
C. Charles Hahn said:
Trouble is if that information were ever to conclusively get out, it would completely KILL a lot of brands... we'd all just go straight to the source and get it cheaper than through one of the relabelers.
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I doubt it would destroy some brands. The reason is many people buy for other reasons than absolute cost. It is the same mentality that never buys from Walmart or other disliked seller or insists on supporting America, etc. I am sure that a handful make the majority of products but from my experience so far the products have differences. Along with the differences and customer service, marketing, etc, it can make a compelling argument for charging more.
 
Bunky said:
I doubt it would destroy some brands. The reason is many people buy for other reasons than absolute cost. It is the same mentality that never buys from Walmart or other disliked seller or insists on supporting America, etc. I am sure that a handful make the majority of products but from my experience so far the products have differences. Along with the differences and customer service, marketing, etc, it can make a compelling argument for charging more.
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Oh I know, there are some brands that can survive on those merits, but there are others that probably wouldn't.
 
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