Car Dealership Detailing In Action!

David Fermani said:
In all fairless to Mr. Suggs, I know of no one else using or speaking about this "blading" technique? And as far as trim goes, I've yet to see anyone successfully remove overspray from textured trim? Including him.



Do you know of anyone that does?



I've had some success using stiff rubber erasures on textured trim. I've also used plastic razor blades, but only on flat surfaces. Lay down some wax, and blade to knock down the overspray.
 
ShineShop said:
It's always a complaint I have with overspray jobs is a majority of the cars are in brutal shape to begin with and there is no way you can just fix the overspray without having to fix preexisting problems to have it turn out acceptable. This summer we did an 8 car overspray job and I was fuming that one of the cars was a mid 1990's Ford Escort that was absolutely covered in tree sap, hammered with fallout and probably hadn't been washed in 10 years and the guy was bitching about the overspray. Impossible to correct the overspray without fixing the other problems as well.



I turned down an oxidized white Civic covered in concrete overspray. The TOL product designed to remove concrete has a green tint and no way was I using that on an oxidized single stage white paint job. Nor was I going to fix many years of neglect the owner of the car had inflicted on it while only getting paid to remove the overspray and probably stain the paint green in the process. Told both the owner of the car and the owner of the company who contacted me exactly why I wasn't going near this job. The woman was absolutely furious that I turned down the job and "insulted" the way she takes care of her car. Too bad, I wasn't going to end up on the hook for a paint job because I stained her crappy, oxidized paint permanently green.
 
Scottwax said:
I turned down an oxidized white Civic covered in concrete overspray. The TOL product designed to remove concrete has a green tint and no way was I using that on an oxidized single stage white paint job. Nor was I going to fix many years of neglect the owner of the car had inflicted on it while only getting paid to remove the overspray and probably stain the paint green in the process. Told both the owner of the car and the owner of the company who contacted me exactly why I wasn't going near this job. The woman was absolutely furious that I turned down the job and "insulted" the way she takes care of her car. Too bad, I wasn't going to end up on the hook for a paint job because I stained her crappy, oxidized paint permanently green.



Unfortunately I kind of had to "eat" the extra work on the escort because we were doing 7 other cars and I knew the owner of the company that did the overspray. I really wish I had taken pics of that one despite the car being a huge piece of garbage. When we were done it looked awesome (for what it was). I turned down a job on an older car recently. Older guy brought it in for a wash/vacuum and the paint was all streaked to hell and he said "you have to wash it with dish soap or the paint will streak". MMMMHHHHMMMM. Talked about doing a full polish job but the guy was such an idiot about everything we talked about I knew it was more trouble than it was worth. Smell ya later buddy.
 
Hey everyone, new to the forums. I just read this entire thread and watched some of this guys videos, very entertaining for sure.

First off, I am by no means a detailer, my car gets washed when mother nature washes it, the clear is pealing up, it has scratches, dings, dents, swirls, you name it. I have however done some backwoods **** to clean up some cars I flip.



There seems to be a lot of well educated, and very skilled people in this forum.



This guy that everyone is bashing on could most certainly do a lot better job than me and I was actually a little impressed with the ford truck job. But Jeff Suggs is a ****ing deuche bag!!! What the **** are you thinking with some of your comments bro? I dont know **** about this subject but I damn sure know that I should take advice from people that know more than me. Pull your ****ing head out of your *** and listen to these people trying to help you dipshit. I am 100% positive you could not pass a drug test. **** YOU SUGGS YOU SACK OF **** NI**ER LOVING SON OF A *****
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
Some of us have been pretty hard on him, sure, but I think there's a certain degree of legitimacy to the concerns being expressed too. We could (or should) have addressed those concerns in a bit "kinder" manner, though whether or not a different approach would have gotten through to him and elicited a different response I have my doubts.







Here's the thing though, Jeff: If you weren't making those kind of comments in your videos and stooping to the extraordinarily low level you have in some of your YouTube feedback, you would not be attracting so much negative attention onto yourself.







Man, I hope you're being sarcastic Barry...







You keep making that claim.... where's your proof?







I don't think anyone here is denying what you are doing, we're just pointing out the parts of your process that we as detailers know can either cause damage to a vehicle or simply are inaccurately explained in your videos.







Typically speaking, do you practice what you preach in that regard? It's a two way street -- just because someone speaks to you in a way you don't want to be spoken to, doesn't mean you HAVE to respond in kind or worse. You could always choose to take the high road and let those individuals make themselves look bad, but instead you decided it would be better to sling mud, which makes YOU look bad.







Here's a bit of information sourced from the vendor Autogeek about detailing clay. You might want to give it a look:



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You see, the CLAY doe not scuff paint; the contaminants being pulled onto the clay bar scuff paint if the clay is not cleaned or kneaded frequently during the process.



Um yeah! .........
 
Jeff, look at it this way... It is good that you have a talent that nobody else can do. But you have to ask yourself the question "Why doesn't anybody else do this?" I know a guy who has a talent like that. He can take your car and by using a hammer and a rounded nail he can tap little pictures into the body. Kind of like art for the blind. He is the only person I know who does this kind of crap, but there is probably a reason for that which has eluded him. Still, that doesn't keep him from saying he is the only one on earth who does this kind of stuff.



I guess the point is this.. Just because you are the only one doing it doesn't mean you aren't doing it wrong. Don't let your arrogance and ego convince you that you know everything about something that not many people really care to do. It may be that there are better ways of doing it and you are just stuck in the past. I'll bet you still use NuFinish and believe it will make your car fireproof too, right?
 
Jeff Suggs sent me an email on my YouTube account.



He made some very crass and crude statements about my wife.



The "man" has zero class whatsoever and proves to me that being an (expletive deleted X2) comes naturally to him.



With others having received trash emails from him.. if there was a vote to permanently ban him from the site, you have mine!
 
The only thing this thread is good for is it proves what a great product BC-2 is...lol.



"AutoMagic BC-2... filling in the mistakes of lot lizards since 1992"
 
i'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact he sniffed the Twilight car seat where Kristen Stewart sat while on camera-that's some seriously disturbing behavior! Thanks for the late night reading material everyone. I do give the guy credit-that use of a blade is incredible. Last choice scenario for me though. I would have to go through about 10 other options (including WIW that mentioned matches and gas LOL!) before raking a straight razor over car paint.
 
tssdetailing said:
i'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact he sniffed the Twilight car seat where Kristen Stewart sat while on camera-that's some seriously disturbing behavior! Thanks for the late night reading material everyone. I do give the guy credit-that use of a blade is incredible. Last choice scenario for me though. I would have to go through about 10 other options (including WIW that mentioned matches and gas LOL!) before raking a straight razor over car paint.



Part of me is curious which video that is, and part of me is too disgusted to bother with it. Part #2 wins this round.
 
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