Car Dealership Detailing In Action!

toyotaguy said:
LOL, you guys have to check out his most recent posts on a few others you tube pages...rasky's and mine...what a joke! To say this guy is a professional in any sense of the word is something to laugh at! Of course, he will probably remove those comments just like he did on his own videos where everyone was calling him out...too funny!



Jeff, next time you are in the so cal area, I would love to have you "show me" how to polish a hood, seriously!

Here is a perfect example showing you have no idea what you are talking about (your own video with commentary:

jeffsuggs's Channel - YouTube



all you have to do is watch the first few minutes:

"when you apply the BC2 by hand first, you remove the majority of the swirls" BWAHAHAAHAHA



oh yeah, you can see the window cowl where you hit it with the wool pad and stained it...what a joke
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He really thinks he's something...."if you can't do dat....you're just a guy with a clay bar"...... LOL. Alrighty bro. Notice he swears in most of his videos too? Ultra professional to put out there for customers to see
 
Mr: Sugg:

Sir I just wanted to know why you would delete my question to you about why it is that I never see you fold your clay or check it to see if has any abrasive objects embedded in it. I have yet to see you change or even clean your wool pad with a spur to remove contents that might possibly scratch the painted surface that you are trying to buff out. I mean this would be at a minimum what most of the people in this profession do when in action. Can you please explain and extrapolate your action in videos. Thank you Sir for your time.
 
Barry Theal said:
Jeff,



First off, as a moderator of Autopia, Welcome to the forum. I'm sorry that many of our members see things differently then you do. Keep in mind that you have some of the world's best detailers on this site. Our members range from people who are new to detailing to some of the worlds finest talent. Then there are some very educated people in the automotive industry on this site. Many people read this site, some in which just lurk and not say a word. Then there are others who like to speak there mind. This is a great site indeed. We are very open about many things. As Autopians we try to practice the safest and most effectivce methods when it comes to vehicle car care. Im sure there are other ways of doing things. trust me I have made many mistakes over my career as a detailer. If you feel your methods for overspray removal are the right way. I would love to hear why. I think its great that you have traveled the world doing what you love to do. Detailing cars has taken me many places as well. I look foward to hearing more about your process in depth.



Scrape on Scrape off....

Barry Theal
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Mr Suggs – As my forum partner Barry Theal has already said prior, welcome to Autopia! You must have forgotten that you already had an account here: View Profile: jeffsuggs - Autopia.org No biggie. Seems like things have gotten a little out of hand for you on this and on a few other forums? Moving forward and in case you’ve been turned off by what has occurred up to now, I’d like to re-invite you back to Autopia and allow you the opportunity to express yourself in hopefully a little more professional manner. I’ve actually followed your techniques for quite a while and as a matter of fact you are on the vendor list to the Insurance Company I work for as an Auto Appraiser. Even though your technique for removing paint overspray is quite unorthodox to most, I can attest that it can come in handy when performed properly. The way in which you “blade” the surface effortlessly shows that you are at the highest echelon with this technique. And I’m certain that you are well versed on using it in such a manner that it does not harm the paint because if you did you’d not be in business this long. I just beg to differ that the way you finish your work (via pad/product selection) leaves much to be desired for based on the Autopian values our members exemplify here. For example, having used literally 100’s of gallons of Auto Magic’s polishing compounds throughout the decades has given me an up front and personal knowledgebase on the limitations and precise uses for the line. Having said this you might want to reconsider implementing some kind of final polishing step with a medium or finishing foam pad (with BC-2) so it can knock down the buffer holograms created by the previous wool pad step I’ve seen you finish with. You can test this workflow by wiping down a few test spots with alcohol to see the true finish that will/may be left behind after the filling properties of BC-2 (which is a glaze that has cut and protection) are exhausted. Just because the final product looks good at the time of delivery doesn’t also mean it will hold up looking this way!



I’ve also completed quite a bit of overspray jobs in my day too! In case you’re wondering, I’ve even posted a few little ditties here a while back:



http://www.autopia.org/forum/click-brag/124003-heavy-paint-overspray-removal-toyota-4runner.html



And even someone as unconventional as yourself might even appreciate this less than evasive job here:



http://www.autopia.org/forum/click-brag/85180-extreme-spray-paint-removal-pics.html





In my prior life I actually did warranty paint repair work for about 15 new car dealers as well as for Ford Motor Company directly when they had fallout mishaps at their metro Detroit assembly plants. I realize that the overspray business is huge and there are a lot of big contenders that concentrate on these specialty jobs. More power to you that you’ve been able to firmly plant yourself within this segment and travel the world performing your craft. That is why someone like you could maybe be able to hone your skills to a more specialty market of professionals such as us? I can see both you and the professional community winning from this peaceful coexistence? I can just vision you posting your videos here just to pacify our taste for the craft? Oh, who knows? Regardless, keep on keeping on.....
 
David:



Your response speaks volumes about the kind of professionalism that is required. While we do not all agree with his methods he should not be subjected to ridicule nor should professionals demean him.



Thank you for setting high standards for professional conduct to another detailer
 
paintoversprayremovaloftexas.com : Overspray Removal Specialist "Jeff Suggs" on Vimeo VW91 check out what product you are speaking of before making comment. BC-2 is not a filler, it is a wax. The reason i use this product is because its very low on the abrasive scale. I have to ask you expert, why would it make the difference if BC-2 was a filler or not. Me polishing auto trim and molding pieces has nothing to do with fillers. The only glaze that I use is made by Meguiars. I have no idea why all of you would go on about this products being a filler. You can't polish trim pieces with a filler. You can't deny the work done in this videos, I am not just removing overspray I am restoring these pieces in the process. No one has ever even thought about buffing these parts of a vehicle. You have to admit this is not anything you have every seen before. I am very proud of the fact that when I am in another country preforming my never duplicated work to vehicles, they know that its coming out of America. And if someone there or here could do it better they would be there no me. Overspray Removal Specialist "Jeff Suggs" textured molding repair on Vimeo
 
Paint Overspray Removal International Services "S60 T-6 Volvo used in Twilight Saga Breaking Dawn" - Volvo insurance - Video - Volvo club For everyone that has ask me about my polishing technique here it is. My videos are also watched by other overspray companies, keeping this in mind I don't reveal every step or every product that I use. BC-2 is just one of the products that I use. I also use Meguiars, 3M, & WolfGang trim dressing and others products. I make the videos so that insurers, contractors, and individuals can observe the process. I am not just buffing with BC-2 and calling it a day. This is just one step of a five step process. I only use BC-2 because it is very low on the abrasive scale. Auto Magic is the product that all of the other companies use, and I want to make them think that it is all I use. I have over 25 different polishes and wax products. I am always wanting to try new products, and would like to try some that are sold through this site. If I like the products, I will make a video demonstrating me using them on a vehicle damaged with overspray. When I make a video Google will make ad featuring that video. The last video that I post is at the top of every site from countries all over the world .http://ucc.blognawa.com/ucclist.htm...=Jeff+Suggs+intenational+overspray+specialist
 
Jeff - Did you read my response about BC-2? It's a polish that has wax in it. Waxes don't have abrasives in them? And, believe me it can and will fill buffer trails.



If you look at Auto Magic's web-site, they actually list it under the Polishes/Glazes section. Here's the link: Car Care Polish Glazes and Wax by Auto Magic



Plus, their abrasive meter puts it in the low sector as well. Heck, if you don't believe me then feel free to call Auto Magic's training rep Rick Schmidt for confirmation. Tell him I say hi. :wavey



And, I'm not denying your work or your success. And yes, your blading technique is original. I'm not trying to take anything away from you on this. And you should remain being proud about your accomplishments. I just think that the people on this forum are aligned differently then yours in respect to workflow. :bigups
 
Jeff Suggs said:
VW91 check out what product you are speaking of before making comment. BC-2 is not a filler, it is a wax. The reason i use this product is because its very low on the abrasive scale. I have to ask you expert, why would it make the difference if BC-2 was a filler or not. Me polishing auto trim and molding pieces has nothing to do with fillers. The only glaze that I use is made by Meguiars. I have no idea why all of you would go on about this products being a filler. You can't polish trim pieces with a filler.
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I see you've chosen to completely ignore David Fermani's post. I will pull out the specific part that addresses your concern, and ask that you please read and try to absorb it:



David Fermani said:
the true finish that will/may be left behind after the filling properties of BC-2 (which is a glaze that has cut and protection) are exhausted. Just because the final product looks good at the time of delivery doesn’t also mean it will hold up looking this way!
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In other words, BC-2 is at least in part a filler.
 
Yes, it can and does fill, but it also has abrasives in it that when combined with the right pad (and process) can and will remove defects. It's not like a typical glaze that only enhances shine and nothing more. It's actually a really nice product! Works awsome with all types of pads. (and no, haven't tried it with MF or SB pads :))
 
David Fermani said:
Yes, it can and does fill, but it also has abrasives in it that when combined with the right pad (and process) can and will remove defects. It's not like a typical glaze that only enhances shine and nothing more. It's actually a really nice product! Works awsome with all types of pads. (and no, haven't tried it with MF pads :))
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Hence the statement that it is "at least in part" a filler.
 
Barry Theal said:
What about surbuffs?
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Jeff Suggs said:
paintoversprayremovaloftexas.com : Overspray Removal Specialist "Jeff Suggs" on Vimeo VW91 check out what product you are speaking of before making comment. BC-2 is not a filler, it is a wax. The reason i use this product is because its very low on the abrasive scale. I have to ask you expert, why would it make the difference if BC-2 was a filler or not. Me polishing auto trim and molding pieces has nothing to do with fillers. The only glaze that I use is made by Meguiars. I have no idea why all of you would go on about this products being a filler. You can't polish trim pieces with a filler. You can't deny the work done in this videos, I am not just removing overspray I am restoring these pieces in the process. No one has ever even thought about buffing these parts of a vehicle. You have to admit this is not anything you have every seen before. I am very proud of the fact that when I am in another country preforming my never duplicated work to vehicles, they know that its coming out of America. And if someone there or here could do it better they would be there no me. Overspray Removal Specialist "Jeff Suggs" textured molding repair on Vimeo
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The only thing I have to add to this thread is why you make yourself to believe what you are doing is so revolutionary and how you are able to think out of the box. We all know how to remove overspray, polish and restore trim just like we do paint. And your razor technique is not specifically unique to you as you serious cant think that you are the only person in the world thats thought of doing that.



Here is just a thread I just grabbed from a quick search.

http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-detailing/133138-b-pillars-swirlsssss-2.html#post1415550
 
lasthope05 said:
The only thing I have to add to this thread is why you make yourself to believe what you are doing is so revolutionary and how you are able to think out of the box. We all know how to remove overspray, polish and restore trim just like we do paint. And your razor technique is not specifically unique to you as you serious cant think that you are the only person in the world thats thought of doing that.



Here is just a thread I just grabbed from a quick search.

http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-detailing/133138-b-pillars-swirlsssss-2.html#post1415550
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In all fairless to Mr. Suggs, I know of no one else using or speaking about this "blading" technique? And as far as trim goes, I've yet to see anyone successfully remove overspray from textured trim? Including him.



Do you know of anyone that does?
 
David Fermani said:
In all fairless to Mr. Suggs, I know of no one else using or speaking about this "blading" technique? And as far as trim goes, I've yet to see anyone successfully remove overspray from textured trim? Including him.



Do you know of anyone that does?
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I've done it before on paint and its nothing im too proud of. I was removing overspray on glass with a razor blade and thought why it wouldnt work on paint. While it does work well enough on curved panels and at near perpendicular angle to not cut into the paint it does not work well on flat panels as the blade ends slightly scrape. I also remember Kevin Brown mentioned having used the technique before also but only in an extreme case.



I've removed overspray before on textured trim, but it is all dependent on what type of substance it is. In my case it was latex paint, which Krud Kutter and IPA took care of.
 
lasthope05 said:
I've done it before on paint and its nothing im too proud of. I was removing overspray on glass with a razor blade and thought why it wouldnt work on paint. While it does work well enough on curved panels and at near perpendicular angle to not cut into the paint it does not work well on flat panels as the blade ends slightly scrape. I also remember Kevin Brown mentioned having used the technique before also but only in an extreme case.



I've removed overspray before on textured trim, but it is all dependent on what type of substance it is. In my case it was latex paint, which Krud Kutter and IPA took care of.
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Only time I've ever heard of/done anything with taking a metal razor blade to paint was when it's fresh out of the booth, as a means to remove runs in the clear. The key to that technique though is to slightly bend the blade so the ends won't dig in, and also profiling the edge of the blade against some 1500 grit sandpaper. It's a similar but inexpensive alternative to a nib file.






 
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