Zaino vs. Klasse All In One Application & Sealent

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What is the difference between these two products? Which one will last longer and give better protection? :notpossib
 
The two are both great products but it is easier to layer Zaino because of their instant cure. You can put multiple coats on with either, but much faster with Zaino. If you have a dark car buy z5 and z2 but if your car is light z2 is all you'll need. Buy 2 bottles of either or, per one bottle of cure(zfx). Also, Sal doesn't recommend a finishing wax but I use one on every car/truck/suv/tank that I do. If you layer, you'll get 6 months except in dead heat of summer, then 3 months to be safe. If your looking for pure protection try Glare from detail king. I use both glare and zaino in my business and I use glare whenever someone is interested primarily in long term protection. Its more glossy than shiney, and zaino is more shiney than glossy. You have to try both to understand that, then you'll say oh yeah. But i prefer using Zaino cause its so addicting and less messy, but Glare is easy on easy off and puts a thinker coat of protection, almost like a carnuba.
 
I use Zaino all the time and I also use Klasse.

Klasse AIO would be my choice if I needed to remove oxidation but it's the Zaino that tastes the best on my ice cream.
 
I think 'glare' is an acronym for "greasy lubricant and rotten eggs' or something like that. :lmfao Actually, I've never heard of the stuff. You'd think that if it was such great stuff then more people would be using it. Then again, I guess some of the best products I've used are pretty obscure things, so maybe it really is good stuff. I'll never know because I just can't see the point in using something that advertises durability for that long. I'm not looking for something that lasts forever. Personally I don't want anything that lasts for more than 3 months simply because I like to change my products frequently. I wouldn't want to marry myself to any one product forever.

Klasse would be my choice for durability and protection. It is an easier product to use IMO and it definitely is a better cleaner if your car would benefit from that. It will also give you much more bang for your buck. I can get 60+ coats out of a bottle of Klasse Sealant Glaze. I seriously doubt you can get that kind of coverage out of a bottle of Zaino.
 
Well there are less steps involved with the Klasse AIO and the Sealant. Also I noticed that you don't use Dawn in the Klasse AIO whereas with Zaino it is a recommended one time wash with Dawn. I would claybar in either case and Zaino already includes that. But with Zaino with the ZFX you can apply more coats within a certain time than Klasse AIO and the Sealant? I thought it was the other way around in that Klasse was an instant coat? In both products the more applications the more protection? :confused: :confused:
 
Both Zaino and Klasse are excellent products, IMHO both of which set the standard for proven durability.

Zaino should give you slightly higher reflectivity, Klasse a deeper and slightly wetter look. It's really down to personal preference on which 'look' you like better. If they stopped selling either product I could use the other with no problem.

Again IMHO, the higher reflectivity of Zaino compliments lighter colors, vehicles with sharper lines and metallics well, while Klasse looks great on darker colors, vehicles with more fluid lines and solid colors. Having said all that, you will find many users who will disagree with me and happily use these sealents on all kinds of vehicles and finishes! ;)

Don't get hung up on the choice of LSP, either Klasse or Zaino will look better and last longer than most OTC LSP's you could buy. What is probably more important is the prep you put into the vehicle before applying the LSP. Good prep work is what really makes a difference between a good and an excellent final result, the choice of LSP is 'icing on the cake'

Good luck! :)
 
I would not let Dawn detergeant touch any car of mine that is either new or in good condition or not going back via a lease shortly. It's not meant for cars/paints and there have been numerous posts here and on Autopia on this subject. I just don't see the benfits to having that temporary super-slick Dawn feel -- assuming you can't replicate it from PB/Klasse/Zaino/other products -- for a few days until you drive the car or the rain hits.

I'm sure that using it once or twice on a car, already with some LSP's down, won't hurt. And I might even try it on a fairly new car like a Civic or similar costing auto. But noway would I try that on an upscale car like the Corvette I hope to get down the line.

JMHO.
 
Define expensive. My car is one of the most expensive things I own. It may not be an $80,000 BMW, but that is because I didn't want the $80,000 BMW. I wanted what I drive.

I prefer to use products that I can use on any car. I don't have the time to decide if this is an 'expensive' car or if I can whip out the Glare. I never have to question if Klasse is going to be the right choice. I probably don't qualify as a "pro" in your opinion, but I do detail professionally and I do advertise and have regular clients. Just because I choose to have a day job doesn't mean that I'm not a pro. Now, as a pro I don't see the benefit of having a product that lasts forever. I want my clients to come back to me on a regular basis so that their vehicle can be properly maintained. A car isn't going to look very good after a year if it is only washed periodically durring that time. That is why I wouldn't use it. And just because nobody has heard of your favorite product doesn't mean anything other than the fact that nobody has heard of your product. If it really is a professional grade product, then perhaps you will find more people talking about it on a board that is designed specifically for professionals. We are not the demographic that is going to be to eager to try a product that lasts a year. We offer more than one product to our clients too. Nobody comes to you and asks if you carry Glare. Nobody asks me if I carry Zaino. I do have it and if they want it, then I'll use it. The reason you see the word 'Klasse' so much in this thread is becaus the question involved the product. We aren't jumping to suggest it because it is the only product we use. We are suggesting it because we are answering the question. Nobody asked you about Glare, so I don't know why you have to bring it up.[/
 
Zaino all the wayno. I Take exception to the dude that thinks klasse looks better on dark colors. It is much more impressive to have shiney as opposed to wet on Dark colors, but I'd rather have both. If anything the "wet" look is better for lighter cars. Nothing can make light cars shiney in my opinion. If I had a light car I don't even know that I'd bother sealing it for any other reason but to keep tar and spots off it. I spend hours every job trying to find a way to get paint shinier. I even use white pearl undercoats to enhance the dark overcoats. I'm not a detailer I'm a body shop dude, but I'm thinking about expanding into detailing. Too many of my customers want me to detail after painting and they want me to keep up with that, so I might hire someone to do this in my shop. To be fair I will try that klasse stuff, currently I only tried Zaino cause it won that guru test. Does anyone know what came in second through fifth on that test? I am familar with klasse but haven't tried it personally. How long do you have to wait to buff that Klasse out? Is AIO a protectant? Does Klasse ever streak and if so do they have a detailer spray or will micro fiber work fine? has anyone ever tried Zaino/Klasse. Sounds crazy but if it makes a car shiney and wet than woohoo. Maybe I'll be ther first. Thanks if anyone answers my questions. :hah
 
I don't know that I'd say that white never looks very shiny. I have a white car and I have taken great efforts to find products that make it shine. I have whole galleries of pictures that show reflection and depth. Its not easy, granted. the prep work is the key part. No product is going to give you gloss and depth if you haven't properly preped the surface.

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I have used several different sealants and dozens of waxes on that car in an effort to get the best shine. Klasse has actually provided the most 'shine'. That term means something different to everybody, but I define it as the high gloss look that it gives. Kinda like a polished rock. I love it on white.
 
Jngrbrdman said:
Define expensive. My car is one of the most expensive things I own. It may not be an $80,000 BMW, but that is because I didn't want the $80,000 BMW. I wanted what I drive.

I prefer to use products that I can use on any car. I don't have the time to decide if this is an 'expensive' car or if I can whip out the Glare. I never have to question if Klasse is going to be the right choice. I probably don't qualify as a "pro" in your opinion, but I do detail professionally and I do advertise and have regular clients. Just because I choose to have a day job doesn't mean that I'm not a pro. Now, as a pro I don't see the benefit of having a product that lasts forever. I want my clients to come back to me on a regular basis so that their vehicle can be properly maintained. A car isn't going to look very good after a year if it is only washed periodically durring that time. That is why I wouldn't use it. And just because nobody has heard of your favorite product doesn't mean anything other than the fact that nobody has heard of your product. If it really is a professional grade product, then perhaps you will find more people talking about it on a board that is designed specifically for professionals. We are not the demographic that is going to be to eager to try a product that lasts a year. We offer more than one product to our clients too. Nobody comes to you and asks if you carry Glare. Nobody asks me if I carry Zaino. I do have it and if they want it, then I'll use it. The reason you see the word 'Klasse' so much in this thread is becaus the question involved the product. We aren't jumping to suggest it because it is the only product we use. We are suggesting it because we are answering the question. Nobody asked you about Glare, so I don't know why you have to bring it up.
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yet another attack. Glare is not heard of because it is used exclusively by many manufactures like Honda and ten others under a different name. For proprietairy reasons the individual consumer can only buy it as Glare. Dude, why do you bother having options? If you are a weekend detailer than dont you owe it yourself to find the best. You can use this on any car, but I'm a perfectionist and this leaves a dust residue. So I don't prefer it, but I do not hesitate to put it on dark expensive cars when asked. This product is wierd in the sense that it goes on and lasts like a sealant but protects likes a carnuba. Don't criticize me for wanting to put that type of product on my customers car. BTW, I charge and extra 50 to put this on as opposed to Zaino, to answer why as a pro i'd use something that lasts longer win/win. Dude, do yourself a favor as a weekend warrior and try it, then if you don't like it chew me, I gauruntee you wont. Ask you local Honda dealer. There is a reason this stuff is taking over the dealership marketplace and klasse isn't. Find out why, then appoligize for being parsnikity towards me. If it is true and you have a good client base than 29 bucks is a small price to pay. It will do 10 cars, 5 if you use two coats. Cut in the first and hand apply the second. As ellitists like the "fuzzman" I understand the criticisms (he's entitled) but as a fellow pro how dare you condensend me W/O trying the stuff.
 
burlyq said:
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yet another attack. Glare is not heard of because it is used exclusively by many manufactures like Honda and ten others under a different name. For proprietairy reasons the individual consumer can only buy it as Glare. Dude, why do you bother having options? If you are a weekend detailer than dont you owe it yourself to find the best. You can use this on any car, but I'm a perfectionist and this leaves a dust residue. So I don't prefer it, but I do not hesitate to put it on dark expensive cars when asked. This product is wierd in the sense that it goes on and lasts like a sealant but protects likes a carnuba. Don't criticize me for wanting to put that type of product on my customers car. BTW, I charge and extra 50 to put this on as opposed to Zaino, to answer why as a pro i'd use something that lasts longer win/win. Dude, do yourself a favor as a weekend warrior and try it, then if you don't like it chew me, I gauruntee you wont. Ask you local Honda dealer. There is a reason this stuff is taking over the dealership marketplace and klasse isn't. Find out why, then appoligize for being parsnikity towards me. If it is true and you have a good client base than 29 bucks is a small price to pay. It will do 10 cars, 5 if you use two coats. Cut in the first and hand apply the second. As ellitists like the "fuzzman" I understand the criticisms (he's entitled) but as a fellow pro how dare you condensend me W/O trying the stuff.
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Jngrbrdman said:
I don't know that I'd say that white never looks very shiny. I have a white car and I have taken great efforts to find products that make it shine. I have whole galleries of pictures that show reflection and depth. Its not easy, granted. the prep work is the key part. No product is going to give you gloss and depth if you haven't properly preped the surface.

Underhood.jpg


More Pictures

Another set of pictures.

I have used several different sealants and dozens of waxes on that car in an effort to get the best shine. Klasse has actually provided the most 'shine'. That term means something different to everybody, but I define it as the high gloss look that it gives. Kinda like a polished rock. I love it on white.
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No offense Jn but if you wash a light car good it almost looks as good as if you wax it. But if you wax a dark color it explodes compared to just washing it. But I had a light car for 11 yrs and it was cool cause I didn't have to wash it as much. Now I got wedgewood blue and I gots to wash dat bch once a week at least. Tell you the truth I miss that white bronco I had, lol. JN could you answer my questions about Klasse? ty Butta
 
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No offense Jn but if you wash a light car good it almost looks as good as if you wax it. But if you wax a dark color it explodes compared to just washing it. But I had a light car for 11 yrs and it was cool cause I didn't have to wash it as much. Now I got wedgewood blue and I gots to wash dat bch once a week at least. Tell you the truth I miss that white bronco I had, lol. JN could you answer my questions about Klasse? ty Butta
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That's not necessarily true. I've seen a million white cars that look like crap because they are only washed and never really cared for. Oxidation doesn't show up as fast on white and that makes them slowly look worse. White and light colors pick up dirt that darken the color and make them less bright and that dirt doesn't just wash off. AIO is the only way I have been able to clean white without abrasives to really make it look good. I have seen my car side by side with another car of the exact same color and there is definitely a difference. You can get white looking very shiny and very bright if you use the right products. Its not easy, but its not supposed to be. I care for my white car as if it was a black car. That keeps it swirl free and looking good all the time. Just because the dirt and swirls don't show up as easily doesn't mean that they don't need to be taken care of. Compare a white car that is well polished and showroom fresh to one that is ten years old and rarely washed, waxed or polished. You will see a difference.

AIO isn't much of a sealant. It is more of a cleaner. The sealant power of the Klasse system is the Sealant Glaze. I've never had any problems with it streaking, but I've been using it for several years too and I'm pretty used to it. I don't really remember reading much about people having problems with streaking and SG. Its pretty easy if you use it right.
 
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