Zaino users: What do you wish they'd do next?

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mikeinaustin

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assume z5 pro is a reality, what would you like to see them do? Here is my list:



1) beef up z-7: to me, it's a fairly mild wash, make it zaino friendly but more aggressive.



2) z-6 : now that z-8 is here, out with the gloss enhancers, uv protectants, etc, instead make it the best dirt and grim remover on the market. you want shine and bonding strength, follow up with z-8.



3) a true bug and tar remover for the really tough spots. i just don't trust the generic stuff on my zaino finish.
 
Get rid of ZFX. I'd also like to see something specifically for dashboards and non-leather interior trim. Change up the scents (besides Z7, Z8, and ZPC). I'm tired of the same ole smell.



Other than that, Zaino is awesome.
 
mikeinaustin said:
3) a true bug and tar remover for the really tough spots. i just don't trust the generic stuff on my zaino finish.
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Most solvent based bug and tar removers would also remove Zaino, too. It would be very difficult to design a powerful bug/tar remove that wouldn't also remove most sealants. A surfactant/d-limonene based remover may be more sealant friendly, but you'd probably still want to reapply your sealant after using it to ensure your paint is still protected.
 
I am by no means a Zaino expert but this is what I would like to see:



1) One product that would take the place of Z-1/ZFX, Z2 Pro, and Z-8 - That would be too cool...



or



2) One product that would combine ZPC and Z-1/ZFX - use this product to prep the surface and then immediately follow with Z-2 Pro. This would be very similar to the venerable Klasse AIO/SG combo.



I know these ideas are extremely unrealistic but we are allowed wish...On a side note, I find the Z-7 wash to be one of the stronger washes - I may have to retry on non-Zaino finishes.
 
No need for ZFX, I'd probably be more inclined to use Zaino. A lower price, or larger bottle at a lower price per ounce of Z8 would be nice. :)
 
Scottwax said:
No need for ZFX, I'd probably be more inclined to use Zaino. A lower price, or larger bottle at a lower price per ounce of Z8 would be nice. :)
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Ahh.. lower price per ounce of Z8 = Z6. :) why don't they make Zaino All in One, similar to

Klasse All in One. Not everyone has the time to do the two steps -- ZPC and Z2/Z5.
 
First no ZFX but at least extend the effective life of ZFX beyond 18 months. A bottle of Z2Pro will last me several years(1/4 OZ = 32 applications) on my daily drivers that means I will need one maybe two additional ZFX which can run the total cost to over $100.00. Z2Pro14.95 plus 19.95 ZFX plus shipping 8.95 = 43.95 and if I need two more ZFX at 19.95 and 8.95 shipping each that would be a additional 57.90 bring the total to $101.85.
 
I like to do thin layers but the 1/4 oz = 32 apps math is a bit too steep for me. 1/4 oz is around 7.4 ml. To do 32 applications from 7.4 ml, you should use 0.23 ml per application...



MCA, the combination of the prep polish and bonding agent is an excellent idea!
 
I'd like to see a complete line of polishes. I used ZPC once and wasn't too keen on it. Maybe I need more experience with it, but I think they should over at least 2 different steps of polish.



Like everyone else said, get rid of the ZFX and make their sealants dry faster after application. Without ZFX it takes forever!
 
add a 1-800 number for product questions. I think its very poor form to have a company as well known as Zaino only supply a long distance number for product questions. (meanhwile the number for placing orders is a 1-800) Those written descriptions for detailing products to a newbie sound all alike. You need to speak to someone. I've got about a $100 worth of Finish Kare products that just arrived that might have gone to Zaino.
 
i too believe something has to be done in regard to zfx. for zfx the shelf life must be doubled if that product is to be usefull. personally i just use z1 as that product does last a long time and i don't have to throw away in left over "mixed" polish.



i have no idea what z5 pro will be, but given z2 pro is for shine, i would really focus z5 pro on purely filling scratches, etc.



it still seems to be there has needs to be a greater differentiation made between z6 and z8.
 
Interesting thread...





I find myself using a lot of Z-products, reguarly. If I had to change anything, I would say:





-Make Z5 Pro better in every way over Z5 (deeper, wetter, slicker, more durable, etc)

-Make Z16 stick a little better to more types of tires

-A less abrasive version of Z-PC





I honestly think of Z as the benchmark of the industry for most of their products. These itches against in this thread, I feel, are mere minor glitches.
 
z-16, hadn't thought about that....i'd kinda like to see two versions; a matte finish version and a slick & shiney finish - customer can pick the look they want.
 
mikeinaustin said:
z-16, hadn't thought about that....i'd kinda like to see two versions; a matte finish version and a slick & shiney finish - customer can pick the look they want.
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Couldn't you just dilute with water to reach desired level of gloss?



I would like to see Zpro without having ZFX for multiple layers/cure time.
 
I find Z-16 to be very matte in its first application, and a nice sheen (but never shiny or greasy) with multiple applications.



My only REAL gripe, like I said, is having to use a cataylst. I think it stinks, even if it only has to be used once in a while. When they (Sal or whoever) hypes up ZFX as much as they did, stating that it will make the polishes more durable and have a better appearance, it's kind of hard to justify using the Z polishes without it.



I'd much rather you apply Z2 or Z5 like UPP or WG and be done with it. If it was as easy to work with as the Z polishes are now, adding another coat once every couple of months would not be a big deal.
 
I'd like to see A Zaino paint cleanser that chemically strips old sealants/waxes, and leaves a surface that you could go right to Z2 or Z5 (basically somehow incorporating the function of Z1 into an AIO-type product).



FWIW,

Tort
 
*Offer an AIO-type product, without compromising much of the durability/protection.



*Get rid of ZFX/incorporate it into the polish somehow (I stopped buying it, because all my vials dried up, BEFORE a drop was ever used from them!) :mad: Honestly, who can really tell that ZFX is adding durability/gloss, when the polishes pre-ZFX era were already super glossy and durable?
 
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