Zaino users: What do you wish they'd do next?

As I have said before a product with a little more depth and wet look for dark colors, like Pin. Souv. Z2 pro doesn't do it for me.
 
TigerMike said:
Honestly, who can really tell that ZFX is adding durability/gloss, when the polishes pre-ZFX era were already super glossy and durable?
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Right, could be a gimmick. I've been reading on Zaino lately and this got me thinking. Why all the Z6 wipe downs between layer's, my arms would fall off doing my X.
 
John Styrnol said:
Right, could be a gimmick. I've been reading on Zaino lately and this got me thinking. Why all the Z6 wipe downs between layer's, my arms would fall off doing my X.
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Test durability with paint WITH ZFX vs. sides WITHOUT ZFX.





Why Z6 between each coat? If ZFX'ing, wipe on, dry, wipe off - x 3. Maybe if you apply it really thick is the only reason you should *need* Z6.
 
I would like Zaino to produce a product that was less appearance durable and one that doesn't maintain the "just waxed" appearance even after several washes. Zaino sealants make detailing boring.

In other words a product that I can justify to myself why I should apply another layer when Z8 QD is all that is needed. :secret



Seriously, I doubt Zaino will compromise his system for extreme convenience. I truly doubt there will or can be a "microwave version" of the chemistry used in the Zaino system. A Zaino'd finish must be baked from scratch.:usa
 
GSRstilez said:
Why Z6 between each coat? If ZFX'ing, wipe on, dry, wipe off - x 3. Maybe if you apply it really thick is the only reason you should *need* Z6.
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Z6 is also optional. Like "spit shining" a carnuaba. If you want the minute appearance difference....

Neither is necessary but some like to take the extra time and energy seeking the "Perfect Shine". :buffing:



Maybe Sal can produce a "spit shine" version - Z2PRO-SS :nixweiss
 
GSRstilez said:
Maybe if you apply it really thick is the only reason you should *need* Z6.
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I'm just reading what it sez on the website. Use Z6 after every layer of Z2, or Z3, or Z5. Wouldn't be something like this:



Z1

Z5

Z6

Z2-Pro

Z6



This is of course without ZFX. Would that be right though, according to the website? If it is, that's alot of passes over the X.
 
I forgot to add that I would love a Zaino LSP that was slicker and remained slick even after a few washes. I find that Zaino doesn't remain smooth even after one or 2 washes! :grrr
 
John Styrnol said:
I'm just reading what it sez on the website. Use Z6 after every layer of Z2, or Z3, or Z5. Wouldn't be something like this:



Z1

Z5

Z6

Z2-Pro

Z6



This is of course without ZFX. Would that be right though, according to the website? If it is, that's alot of passes over the X.
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ha ha i'm worse, i do this:



z1

z2-pro



z6

z8



z2-pro



z6

z8



z2-pro

etc ( of course this takes place over a period of days).
 
here is a thought : how about a zaino friendly and bondable wax? you layer all the (say) z2-pro you want for shine and protection, then you can optionally put on this "zaino wax" for depth. when wanted you can put more of this zaino wax on or directly apply z2-pro again (maybe with z1 or zfx) right on top of the wax.
 
reworking the catalyst sytem would be an improvment. If it could be incorporated into a ZPC-sealant combo that would be interesting.
 
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it still seems to be there has needs to be a greater differentiation made between z6 and z8.[/QUOTE]



It is. The price!
 
I would also like some type of Zaino brand AIO.



Also, like others said, a little better thickness to Z16 would be nice and make application a little easier imho.
 
I'd like to see a Zaino matte interior product for dash and trim and larger size containers of often used products like shampoo and tire shine.
 
After reading some of these posts, I just wanted to provide some input on a few things....



1. Sal gives great product support. Email him an I am sure he will call you on his dime to answer your questions.



2. Z16 tire dressing......I apply it with a damp applicator, and it comes out black and matte. A second application 15 - 30 minutes later adds gloss.



3. Z10 works great on the dash...use a damp or wet foam applicator and buff off the excess if you would like the results more "matte." I have also mixed Z10 with Z16 for use in the interior to thin it out with great results.



4. I find it hard to believe that some people don't notice the increased drying time alone when using ZFX.



5. If your ZFX dries up, shoot Sal an email and I am sure he will replace it.



6. ZFX & polish mixing.........After a few tries you should be able to mix just enough with minimal waste. I use the extra on windows, wheels,etc. Definately try it on the windows!



7. ZPC........I find it pretty mild. I couldn't imagine it any less abrasive.



8. Just a reminder.......after using ZPC you can directly to the Z2/Z5 step.



9. Z6 in between coats definately makes a difference. The slicker the surface is, the less product you will use on the next coat. Z6 also goes a long way. I bet most people are using WAY too much.



Hope this helps.....





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Just my 2 cents. I use Z8 between coats not Z6 then again after final coat.



As for staying slick after 2 washings, to me thats what Z8 is for. I have used most carnubas as well as Blackfire and FMJ and they are not slick after 1 washing.



You really appreciate ZFX when you want to do all your coats in one day or one night as I often do on my Friday ritual.



Every Friday rain or shine



Almost every week

1.wash

2.Z8

3. Z16

4. Z6 dash, door jams and rims.

35-45 min.



When board

1.wash Z7

2. 2 coats Z5 ( rarley need ZPC because I keep my car perfect from day 1) Z8 in between

3. 2 coats Z2 pro Z8 in between

4. 1 coats Z2 pro on rims and Z16 on tires

5. Z6 Dash, doorjams and rims

6. Z8

7. admire the best shine and durability in the industry for me.



3 to 3 1/2 hours.



I like the fact you can't get Zaino at Walmart or AutoZone. ( you can't buy a Rolex at Walmart.)



What would make Zaino better for me? A , 1-800 number.
 
At the bottom of their website or if you have a bottle of Z8, at the bottom of the back label, there is a number - 888-999-9870
 
mg031 said:
At the bottom of their website or if you have a bottle of Z8, at the bottom of the back label, there is a number - 888-999-9870
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Your right , I Have never seen that before!! :thx
 
mikeinaustin said:
assume z5 pro is a reality, what would you like to see them do? Here is my list:



1) beef up z-7: to me, it's a fairly mild wash, make it zaino friendly but more aggressive.



2) z-6 : now that z-8 is here, out with the gloss enhancers, uv protectants, etc, instead make it the best dirt and grim remover on the market. you want shine and bonding strength, follow up with z-8.



3) a true bug and tar remover for the really tough spots. i just don't trust the generic stuff on my zaino finish.
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Here's what I'd like to see on Z5Pro

-No need for zfx

-additional fill

-a noticeable difference in look/slickness compared to Z5.









As far as other products:



-I agree with the Z7 comment. IMO, it's a nice wash, but it's not a 'must have' product in the Z line.



-I would like to see a Z tire/wheel/engine cleaner. IMO, that's about the only 'hole' in the line up.



-I'm happy on the polish front with Menzerna/Optimum. Z would have to be pretty good polish to get me to switch.



-As others have suggessted, I think a paint decon system would be a good idea to ensure that everyone starts from the same 'clean slate' so to speak.
 
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