zaino products

ok thanks, two experts on the subject as thomasdekany and scottwax I recommend HD, and I can get a better result than with zaino do not think more, and desicion is taken and will go for HD.
 
Thomas Dekany said:
The HD look will blow away Zaino.



The whole idea is to keep this simple.



For black, with swirls: HD UNO, HD POLISH to get perfect paint. At this point you can do HD NITRO SEAL, or HD POXY. Poxy looks amazing on any color, but NITRO SEAL looks even better. Longer durability as well.



Pads: Yellow for deep scratches, green for polishing and black for finishing. Yellow and green with HD UNO, black with HD POLISH. Red pad for applying POXY. Nitro Seal you apply by hand



Since you are in Costa Rica, when you place an order, add HD SPEED to your cart. Everyone should have a bottle around. It looks so good alone or put it before you wax.



Use this link and I'll make sure that you get the best price, and shipping. Maybe even something extra for free.



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Do you have any independent reviews to support that statement? I've starting testing UPGP and find it comparable to Zaino sealants. So far they are roughly comparable; it has been my experiance that products fail when compared to Zaino sealants.



Independent A/B testing is necessary to draw accurate conclusions. Where is you evidence from independent sources?



Regards,



Dan.
 
He said HD will blow away Zaino in looks, not durability (where for me, they are about equal). And he is right about appearance. HD Poxy looks better than Z2 or Z5 IMO.
 
I have used Zaino for years, so I would think I am a pretty good source. Have you tried any hd product?

I said that in the look department Zaino is not in the same league. It doesn't mean Zaino is bad.



I see you are in Seattle, I welcome you to visit me any time for a free demonstration.



Let's see what Bryan says. He has some samples and has been a long time Zaino user.
 
I have used Z2 since its first debut online, the first email receipt I have is from 1998.



Poxy has more depth and shine than any Zaino product. It also sheets water versus pooling it, a huge advantage in hot climates.



Zaino is great at beading water. As as protection from environmental damage, it's not that great.
 
Having used Zaino exclusively for 8 years before switching to DG products---DG105 is at least as durable as Z2 and perhaps more so with much less work and at half the cost and POXY blows both away in the looks department. Looks of course are subjective and the only way I can explain it is that Z2 has the look of a sheet of glass over the paint--HD Speed has that same look, but as if there were a couple of inches of water between the glass and the paint and POXY adds a few more inches of water between the glass and paint. Absolutely stunning--only time will tell regarding durability.
 
Thomas Dekany said:
I have used Zaino for years, so I would think I am a pretty good source. Have you tried any hd product?

I said that in the look department Zaino is not in the same league. It doesn't mean Zaino is bad.



I see you are in Seattle, I welcome you to visit me any time for a free demonstration.



Let's see what Bryan says. He has some samples and has been a long time Zaino user.
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You also work for HD marketing their products Therefore your opinion is highly skewed. My first intro to the HD company was an over-the-top, carnival barker pitch. Your post used the that same tone. That is a total turn off for me.



I'm evaluating other products to use instead of Zaino. HD will NOT be one of them specifically because of your marketing approach.



Have a nice day.
 
LOL, I have been "over the top" about HD UNO and the line since I first tried it in August of 2009. That is nothing new. The only difference is that "I" actually use the product that I speak so highly of. That is very different from marketing for the sake of marketing. As a matter of fact, since I am getting paid, (8 days so far) I have toned down a bit about the line because I am aware how that may look to someone new. I really wish that you said something to me before. Before I was getting paid, because you had so many opportunities to do so, since I only use HD/3D products in every single detail, unless the customer wants a permanent coating. There are plenty of C&B threads that I started. I praised 3D in all of them. For one simple reason: I LOVE THE WAY THE PAINT LOOKS AFTER USING UNO (and now polish and speed) There is something different there in the gloss department. For me there is visually. I clearly see it.



I apologize if that pushes your buttons.



You also work for HD marketing their products Therefore your opinion is highly skewed.
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I am trying to see the logic in the above statement of yours. Have you ever seen me over the top about Zaino? Have you seen any of my details where I used Zaino and nothing but Zaino? Because there are quite a few of those. BUT, those details are pre August 2009. If you assume that I think that Zaino actually looks better, but because I am getting paid now, I am willing to say the opposite, you are very wrong.



1 - Don't you think that I would be working for Zaino and not 3D?



2 - I am only working for 3D because I am a 3D "fanboy". A "fanboy" due to the results I get with their products. It is that simple. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised if 3D wished they had a different person in my position - a person who is very good at selling. I am not that person. I can only sell what I believe in and even then, look what happens? My integrity is questioned. This time it was questioned by you, but imagine, when people who actually know you personally, worked with you, (in this business) accuse you of the same, simply because you are so excited about the product (line). That is the person that I am. That is not a great salesman. A great salesman is something else. With me, you get what you see.



So I get where you are coming from, but I do this because I believe in the product, it isn't what you think. I can just as well stop working for 3D today, keep detailing and be over the top about 3D in my C&B threads.



What would you say about me then? Would you even comment in my threads? Would you even click on any of my threads? Have you ever replied in any of my threads? Have you ever appreciated any of the details by me? I mean I work very hard when I detail, I always want the customer to be blown away, do the very best that I can, AND I think I am pretty ok making paint flawless. I am proud of the results I accomplish - that is why I post here and other forums. (and to get more business of course)



Most likely not, and that is ok with me.



BTW, I am also the guy that if you were to ask me for my recommendations but didn't want 3D I can help. I do it all the time. HD/3D is not for everyone, Just like Meg's or 3M.



PS: why are you evaluating other products? Can you elaborate?
 
Thomas, you have to take certain things with a grain of salt. Whenever I know someone works for a company, they are obviously going to push their products as the greatest ever. Every forum I'm on pushes their own products first and foremost, so it's not like you're doing anything wrong, but some people will just not be so trusting in your recommendations unless they try it themselves.



I myself, do not take anyone's word for any product, especially if they work for that company. I only trust a product once I have tried it out and seen for myself what it can do. SO really, you're not wrong in your approach, and neither is anyone that isn't immediately trusting your opinion simply because you work for a company, pushing their products.
 
You know what would be funny, if 3D sent BookemDano some samples. I'd be willing to bet he'd change his tune after trying the products. The fact is, by now, all the trusted figures that post here have all tried the line, and no one has complained, in fact, they have all loved the line. Does it have weaknesses? Sure, and 3D continues to work on resolving them, but the products are head of the pack as is, and keep getting better.
 
Dan said:
You know what would be funny, if 3D sent BookemDano some samples. I'd be willing to bet he'd change his tune after trying the products. The fact is, by now, all the trusted figures that post here have all tried the line, and no one has complained, in fact, they have all loved the line. Does it have weaknesses? Sure, and 3D continues to work on resolving them, but the products are head of the pack as is, and keep getting better.
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Woo horsey woo...The trusted figures I know who have tried the previous versions (pre speed, polish, ect) were not impressed at all.



Today or tomorrow when we get to a second step on this black sapphire mettalic, I do hope that 3Ds polish works as advertised. I was incorrect on my previous statement, I do have poxy that someone was kind enough to send me about a month ago. So we are hoping to use poxy as the LSP.



Thomas, if you could be so kind to give a run down on the use of polish to finish out on this sapphire black metallic M5, I would appreciate it. I have LC white, black, ect for pads.
 
Dan said:
The fact is, by now, all the trusted figures that post here have all tried the line, and no one has complained, in fact, they have all loved the line.
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I wouldn't exactly say that, unless you have your own list of "trusted" figures. I haven't been very impressed with UNO, polish I'm still mixed on, Speed gets a very good shine. Still experimenting. Like I've said before, I don't take anyones word for anything until I've tried it myself, and no one else should either.
 
RZJZA80 said:
I wouldn't exactly say that, unless you have your own list of "trusted" figures. I haven't been very impressed with UNO, polish I'm still mixed on, Speed gets a very good shine. Still experimenting. Like I've said before, I don't take anyones word for anything until I've tried it myself, and no one else should either.
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I do have my own list, unless you can point me to an approved one, can you? Megs 105 was probably the biggest game changer in the past 10 years as far as polishes go, there are still people that hate it, what does that mean??? Nothing.



I'm glad you have an opinion, that's grand. But to say that someone is schilling a product because they like it, is just funny.
 
Dan said:
The fact is, by now, all the trusted figures that post here have all tried the line, and no one has complained
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I had the chance to try one of the earlier versions of Uno and didn't have a good experience... I have yet to try anything from HD after that but they must have improved quite a bit based on the reviews that have been posted...
 
Agree with you, but if I was on another forum and Mike Phillips or Todd Helmes was speaking highly of a product, my first thought wouldn't be that they are just pushing the item in question. These guys detail for a living and use the same stuff. But that is just me.



I don't know how my reply above comes across, but I don't like when my honesty is questioned. So I will always speak up for myself.



RZJZA80 said:
Thomas, you have to take certain things with a grain of salt. Whenever I know someone works for a company, they are obviously going to push their products as the greatest ever. Every forum I'm on pushes their own products first and foremost, so it's not like you're doing anything wrong, but some people will just not be so trusting in your recommendations unless they try it themselves.



I myself, do not take anyone's word for any product, especially if they work for that company. I only trust a product once I have tried it out and seen for myself what it can do. SO really, you're not wrong in your approach, and neither is anyone that isn't immediately trusting your opinion simply because you work for a company, pushing their products.
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