Zaino MF towel was released

FJF said:
We get it; you don't like Zaino. Prolonging the negativity by purposefully uploading inflammatory text isn't exactly productive. For some unknown reason, you still want to keep it going. :sadpace:
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Actually you must feel irritated by me asking these questions and mentioning the fact that Zaino used to recommend cotton towels, why is this? These are simply legitimate questions about a new product, but since its Zaino, OMG I can't ask anything about them or compare them to others :nervous2:



BTW it's incorrect to say I "don't like Zaino" I think Z-8 is a great product.
 
dan46n2 said:
Actually you must feel irritated by me asking these questions and mentioning the fact that Zaino used to recommend cotton towels, why is this? These are simply legitimate questions about a new product, but since its Zaino, OMG I can't ask anything about them or compare them to others :nervous2:



BTW it's incorrect to say I "don't like Zaino" I think Z-8 is a great product.
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Given what's been posted, your comments are disingenuous. As this has spun into the realm of the absurd, you'll have to forgive me for bowing out.
 
FJF said:
Given what's been posted, your comments are disingenuous. As this has spun into the realm of the absurd, you'll have to forgive me for bowing out.
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Now asking about price to benefit of a product is "disingenuous" and "absurd", I wasn't even going to post in this thread as I thought these might be some of the responses I would get.



People are going to ask what the deal is about a microfiber towel costing this much especially when on the surface it's nothing new. I think one of the first few posts mentioned said the price was high. Your posts go to show that anytime someone questions a Zaino product, being price or performance, someone like you will flame them for it. This doesn't happen with any other product, people comment on price to performance aspect of Souveran all the time but thankfully there are not "Souveranists" out there doing what you are doing.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Seems like one of the selling points is that they are "made in the USA", as well as being truly edgeless.
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And they're exclusively offered by one of the most reputable companies in the enthusiast industry. That alone would make tons of people want them. I can't wait to try them out.....
 
dan46n2 said:
People are going to ask what the deal is about a microfiber towel costing this much especially when on the surface it's nothing new. I think one of the first few posts mentioned said the price was high. Your posts go to show that anytime someone questions a Zaino product, being price or performance, someone like you will flame them for it. This doesn't happen with any other product, people comment on price to performance aspect of Souveran all the time but thankfully there are not "Souveranists" out there doing what you are doing.
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Wait, what? As far as I was concerned, I was done with this. For reasons unknown, you've decided to read my mind. If you must know, I hardly ever use Zaino products.



Folks replied to your objections, asked you follow-up question, yet you conveniently ignored their comments - as well as your own fading arguments - only to assert the same mantra while hiding behind a "Who, me?," a totally disingenuous position. Worse, just as an issue becomes resolved, you come back to stir the pot, trolling away. Now you've crying, because you were supposedly "flamed." If that's not pathetic, I don't know what is.
 
FJF said:
Wait, what? As far as I was concerned, I was done with this. For reasons unknown, you've decided to read my mind. If you must know, I hardly ever use Zaino products.



Folks replied to your objections, asked you follow-up question, yet you conveniently ignored their comments - as well as your own fading arguments - only to assert the same mantra while hiding behind a "Who, me?," a totally disingenuous position. Worse, just as an issue becomes resolved, you come back to stir the pot, trolling away. Now you've crying, because you were supposedly "flamed." If that's not pathetic, I don't know what is.
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What's pathetic? Your grammar and response to my questions about this product as being "disingenuous" and "absurd". I think you have made your point.
 
FJF said:
Wait, what? As far as I was concerned, I was done with this. For reasons unknown, you've decided to read my mind. If you must know, I hardly ever use Zaino products.



Folks replied to your objections, asked you follow-up question, yet you conveniently ignored their comments - as well as your own fading arguments - only to assert the same mantra while hiding behind a "Who, me?," a totally disingenuous position. Worse, just as an issue becomes resolved, you come back to stir the pot, trolling away. Now you've crying, because you were supposedly "flamed." If that's not pathetic, I don't know what is.
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BTW you are the one that's coming back to stir the pot, you said you were "bowing out" but now come back to post more "inflammatory" comments as you put it.



I'll be the one to say I am truly ending my comments in this thread as I see your continual attack on me is not helping answer any questions about this new product.
 
dan46n2 said:
So why spend $25 on 3 towels if the quality varies so much? Also I have never scratched my paint with cheaper towels or noticed a difference in quality (from the same manufacturer) , I'm not talking about Costco towels but good quality towels, most are about half the price or less than the Zainos however.
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I recently bought a towel from a respected name brand company. I've purchased some of their towels and was quite pleased. However, one towel in particular instilled micromarring. It makes a wonderful interior towel but it won't see my paint

again.



As for cost, sure the Zaino towel costs more than a discount towel but hey were in a recession and americans need jobs. And it seems as if the Zaino towel is competitive price wise and in some cases cheaper than some of the high end boutique MF towels.



I just checked some Autopia advertisers MF towel prices. I found a 2 pack of 16x16 towels for $14.95, a single 16x16 for $9.99 and a 16 x 24 for $12 (regular price).
 
Gotta love the flame wars... LOL.. Nice to see some people use logic when making purchase decisions. I buy MF towels 25 for $15 and I've never had problem one with any of them ever.. To pay insane prices for a stupid towel makes me want to just set up a charity and plead everyone to just send their money to me... I mean their obviously oblivious to the fact that they are being taken for hard core wether the product is good or not. ( kind of like $30,000 wax) But alas.. Some people just want the name. Either way it's their money they can do what they want with it. A good product is a good product.. But price is always a factor regardless of how good any product is.
 
Jakerooni said:
Gotta love the flame wars... LOL.. Nice to see some people use logic when making purchase decisions. I buy MF towels 25 for $15 and I've never had problem one with any of them ever.. To pay insane prices for a stupid towel makes me want to just set up a charity and plead everyone to just send their money to me... I mean their obviously oblivious to the fact that they are being taken for hard core wether the product is good or not. ( kind of like $30,000 wax) But alas.. Some people just want the name. Either way it's their money they can do what they want with it. A good product is a good product.. But price is always a factor regardless of how good any product is.
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Quoted (verbatim) from your website:



"We even have some of dojo juice's "Supernatural" on tap for those extra special occasions. If you haven't heard of it I highly recommend looking into it."



An ~$8 towel is "being taken for hadcore," but a ~$20 an ounce LSP is not. Sure, that makes sense.
 
FJF said:
Quoted (verbatim) from your website:



"We even have some of dojo juice's "Supernatural" on tap for those extra special occasions. If you haven't heard of it I highly recommend looking into it."



An ~$8 towel is "being taken for hadcore," but a ~$20 an ounce LSP is not. Sure, that makes sense.
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And your point??? Wax's have different properties... A towel is a towel (flame on LOL). And besides... I'm trying to see if there's any real interest in my area for this.. Hence the sampler and not the $250 wood box. Now I have a wide variety of MF towels from the uber cheapies to the super plush "Elite" towels. They all perform exactly the same. They get the exact same amount of wax off the car each time everytime. My towels cause the exact same amount of micromarring (none) I was gifted the uber plush towels. But I would never actually pay cash for any of these extra niche towels.. If someone wants to give them to me so be it. But they had really better do something extrodinary above and beyond what any other towel on the market can do if they want me to actually plunk down hard cash for these gimmicks.
 
Jakerooni said:
And your point???
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I thought it was rather obvious. Clearly, you see a value in a wax that costs much more other quality LSPs. Someone else sees a similar value in a MF, even though other MFs may cost less. Asserting that your rationale is somehow more justifiable, even though you're guilty of the same crime, doesn't exactly point to a credible position.
 
dan46n2 said:
I think it's funny how Zaino has made a 180 from their "only use 100% cotton towels" and now say microfiber is ok when they start selling it. The Zaino guys would have flamed you for not using 100% cotton up to then :think:
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Here is what Zaino says about microfiber:



"Q: Are Micro-Fiber products safe to use?





A: Zaino has been testing various Micro-Fiber products. Unfortunately, the jury is still out on them. Some of them are excellent and do not scratch. Others are terrible and definitely scratch. The quality control of these products from overseas, especially Korea, is not consistent, so you never know if they will be the same scratch-free quality. Even when using the same brand, we found the quality to be inconsistent. For now, we do not recommend using them. However, lab testing is ongoing, and we will post an update when we have more conclusive results.



NOTE: If you are already using microfiber towels, look carefully at your paint finish under flourescent light when you are using your towels. If you are not getting any swirls or fine scratches from the microfiber towels, then you are okay and can continue to use them. Remember it's better to be safe than swirly.





It seems like more of an attempt to steer people away from bad microfiber (and there's a lot of it out there).
 
Jakerooni said:
And your point??? Wax's have different properties... A towel is a towel (flame on LOL). And besides... I'm trying to see if there's any real interest in my area for this.. Hence the sampler and not the $250 wood box. Now I have a wide variety of MF towels from the uber cheapies to the super plush "Elite" towels. They all perform exactly the same. They get the exact same amount of wax off the car each time everytime. My towels cause the exact same amount of micromarring (none) I was gifted the uber plush towels. But I would never actually pay cash for any of these extra niche towels.. If someone wants to give them to me so be it. But they had really better do something extrodinary above and beyond what any other towel on the market can do if they want me to actually plunk down hard cash for these gimmicks.
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Most boutique waxes are expensive underperforming products(for bragging rights only). Ya, spend $20 an ounce for a product that lasts 3 washes vs getting a couple of MF towels that will last 100 washes. Great logic, you must have an IQ approaching 150:think:
 
back to topic: I wonder how these are and how they perform compared to DF towels and the Autopia Concours towel which both are different fiber and also very soft.



In any case, there's nothing wrong with a high quality MF towel! Use a cheap one and find out the hard way!!



Deanski
 
We just received towels MF drying towels and polishing towels from Phil at Detailrs Domain. So soft, I'm gonna throw out the toilet paper!
 
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