Zaino fell out of favor?
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imported_PiPUK
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It is just not flavour of the month. To be honest, the Zaino marketing machine is a bit old fashioned now, dare I suggest it is a bit too honest! Other brands are bigging themselves up more and that is getting them more attention.
Corey Bit Spank
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Scottwax said:Have you ever seen the Zaino manufacturing plant?
You mean they don't make Zaino in the back of an old U-Haul truck?
Dan
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Scottwax said:Have you ever seen the Zaino manufacturing plant?
I thought Sal made it in his mother's basement??? She won't let him do tours....
I don't know..... I have used Z in the past. But just recently I let the local car wash guys put a coat of Duragloss 105 on my neglected 2002 Tahoe for $45. All I could say was WOW! What a difference. AG reviews of 105 9 out of 10 gave it 5 stars. I'd love to bottle it up with a different label and sell it as a info comercial on TV. Like AURI (sp) was sold years ago.
imported_Amused
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Funny, I just poured out my half used bottle of Z5 Pro while purging old unused products. It wasn't a bad product, just behind the times in every respect. The Z8 I had coagulated. As a "sealant", it never proved itself to be in my experience, so no loss there. Neither product saw actual usage for years, so I'm glad to get some space back in my cabinet.
I'm not too surprised that Zaino's fallen out of favor with all the new innovative products on the market today...plus, and all that drama
Ironically, I still have 2 old tins of #16...a personal favorite for a classic paste wax. I don't think I'll ever use them up.
I'm not too surprised that Zaino's fallen out of favor with all the new innovative products on the market today...plus, and all that drama
Ironically, I still have 2 old tins of #16...a personal favorite for a classic paste wax. I don't think I'll ever use them up.
togwt
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Probably the greatest impact has come from the use of coatings, which have completely changed the landscape of the detailing industry. Products like Zaino, Collinite, and etc used to be the best protection available but the so called nanotechnology products (AQuartz) or a reactive polymer resin coatings (Opti-Coatâ„¢ ) that offer a coating thickness of 2-3 µ (microns) and a scratch resistant hardness of 9H, greatly extended durability, scratch resistance and protection from the elements that can be measured in seasons or years, as opposed to others
For many years (twenty plus) my polymer sealant of choice was an acrylic polymer (Klasse) I then converted to a polymer sealant (Zaino) and used it for approx fifteen years, but automotive sealants and coatings(Opti-Coatâ„¢, Aquartz, Permanon, G|Techniq. Nanolex, etc) have evolved immensely over the last five years or so and have changed paint protection to an inordinate degree
Unlike sealants and wax, coatings form a semi-permanent protection when applied to the paint surface. It forms a viable hard layer of protection that bonds to the finish
For many years (twenty plus) my polymer sealant of choice was an acrylic polymer (Klasse) I then converted to a polymer sealant (Zaino) and used it for approx fifteen years, but automotive sealants and coatings(Opti-Coatâ„¢, Aquartz, Permanon, G|Techniq. Nanolex, etc) have evolved immensely over the last five years or so and have changed paint protection to an inordinate degree
Unlike sealants and wax, coatings form a semi-permanent protection when applied to the paint surface. It forms a viable hard layer of protection that bonds to the finish
In terms of the etching, I have noticed it with DG as well. I like the way DG performs and looks, but I had some bird bomb etching after no time at all, and also some nasty water spots. Even collinite had some issues, however. Funny enough, Meg's Ultimate Liquid seems to protect better, though not as long.
As far as Zanio goes, I feel there are much better products at a better price. Period.
As far as Zanio goes, I feel there are much better products at a better price. Period.
Accumulator
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TOGWT said:
Leaving the semantic finepoints aside, I'd posit that in layman's terms heavily layered KSG can also provide a semi-permanent protection (well over a year of daily-driver use with minimal discernible degradation) and enough of a build film as to provide a layer of protection in the "barrier" sense. I've had "oops!" situations involving physical contact where many layers of KSG prevented paint damage (to my utter amazement).
No, no...not like a coating, but still more so than anything else I've ever used. IMO people miss out on significant aspects of KSG when they fail to layer it sufficiently.
Dan
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OneQuickGT1 said:
I've had water spotting with collinites, but not bird bomb etching. I do agree, Megs Ultimate (and NXT as well) seem to be impervious to all sorts of crap.
I have HD Poxy on my car, but a few weeks ago knew I was going to have to leave my car parked at the airport for a week. I had a small bottle of Megs Ultimate Liquid Wax that someone had given me so I threw it on the paint just for an extra coat of protection (only washed the car before applying--no claying or polishing). I'm not a fan of Megs products over all, but I've been impressed by UW--really easy to apply and remove, very high gloss and it's been six weeks including the week at the airport and the beading is still like the day I applied it. The week parked outdoors at the airport coated the car with a thick mix of pollen and something sticky (I assume Jet exhaust)--had to wash it twice to get it all off, but the UW still had great shine and slickness.
Guitarist302008
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MDRX8 said:
DG105 IMO is the ultimate sealant. I LOVE how it looks on all colors and cars. I also really like Werkstat's AJT... but it seems to look better on lighter cars.
Guitarist302008 said:
I find it interesting when they say """""Duragloss Total Performance Polish is so durable that it resists both acidic and alkaline cleaners. When the labels of Duragloss’ Bug Remover andWater Spot Remover say they will not remove durable polishes, this is the durable polish they’re referring to. TPP #105 shields the paint through automatic car washes, acid rain and spot cleaners for up to a year.""""" in their description.
Dan
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pwaug said:
UW really is one that went under the radar. I don't know if people were turned off by the name, previous ultimate products that weren't very ultimate or what.
Intercooled
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I haven't been on here in years. Back when Zaino was all the rage. Well, have never stopped using it. I don't really know what is new and exciting , but I'm familiar with most of the products mentioned here. I must say for a garage kept vehicle, it's hard to beet Zaino. Durability is fantastic, and now that I dont have a ton of time detailing my H2 , Zaino is so easy to Put on and take off. I was using Z2 for a couple years and lately noticed some minor spider webbing. I opened up my Z5 and put on 1 layer and all the fine spider webbing went away. And Z6 just rocks! I guess,I was one of those zealots, Zaino just works for me. I never had much luck with Z8 being so wonderous and never took toZCS.
Wow, this thread really took off! I saw the first few replies and today I noticed there are pages. All good stuff! I think I was happy with the Z-2 x Z-8 combo for a number of years. I had tried all the "flavor of the month" products for a few years and I think when I got tired of trying new things I was using Zaino and just stayed with it. I wash once a week, then top with Z-8 (which I'm not sure looks much different than the cheaper Z-6).
I have a dark blue car with some metallic specs and for it to still have shine after a wash in March (making it through the winter), I just assumed that Zaino was working. People who didn't experience etching, I assume that you don't have dark paints. A few hours after a bird bomb is all it takes. I even had repainted a quarter panel, waited, then applied Z-2 when the paint had cured. First week after the application, bird etching. And that is with a new thick coat of clear.
I always though that the ZFX was BS though. What better way to make money than to sell something in a tiny bottle that is supposed to do something that is impossible to visually see (that being flash curing)? I did a Klasse SG/Z-2 comparison on my car the other day, they were hard to tell apart. I think the Klasse bonded better but the end result was visually the same.
I guess its time to start comparing some of the new products out there. I'm not sure that I'm game for this Opti-Coat stuff. I haven't seen a definitive answer on whether or not it looks as nice as the products that require regular re-application like sealants and waxes.
I have a dark blue car with some metallic specs and for it to still have shine after a wash in March (making it through the winter), I just assumed that Zaino was working. People who didn't experience etching, I assume that you don't have dark paints. A few hours after a bird bomb is all it takes. I even had repainted a quarter panel, waited, then applied Z-2 when the paint had cured. First week after the application, bird etching. And that is with a new thick coat of clear.
I always though that the ZFX was BS though. What better way to make money than to sell something in a tiny bottle that is supposed to do something that is impossible to visually see (that being flash curing)? I did a Klasse SG/Z-2 comparison on my car the other day, they were hard to tell apart. I think the Klasse bonded better but the end result was visually the same.
I guess its time to start comparing some of the new products out there. I'm not sure that I'm game for this Opti-Coat stuff. I haven't seen a definitive answer on whether or not it looks as nice as the products that require regular re-application like sealants and waxes.