Which WOWA Sealant: UPGP, OS, Z-CS, JW Trigger, other?

Ok, I have now tried UPGP (in addition to Opti-Seal and AJT).



I am extremely impressed with UPGP! I used it on my yellow Mazda Protege 5. It is better in pretty much every way (I can't comment on longevity/protection yet obviously).



Ease of use is simply spectacular. Easiest product that I have ever used, bar none. It applies much easier and more evenly than OS (and I always maintained that OS was easy to use)! It is easier to use than AJT as you don't have to buff after spraying. Just apply to the supplied pad and spread.



The looks are fantastic as well. Very, very wet and glossy, with good depth as well.



Also, the slickness is better than OS and much better than AJT.



At least for yellow, UPGP is now my favorite sealant.



I will try it on Silver next.
 
Rob Tomlin said:
Ok, I have now tried UPGP (in addition to Opti-Seal and AJT).



I am extremely impressed with UPGP! I used it on my yellow Mazda Protege 5. It is better in pretty much every way (I can't comment on longevity/protection yet obviously).



Ease of use is simply spectacular. Easiest product that I have ever used, bar none. It applies much easier and more evenly than OS (and I always maintained that OS was easy to use)! It is easier to use than AJT as you don't have to buff after spraying. Just apply to the supplied pad and spread.



The looks are fantastic as well. Very, very wet and glossy, with good depth as well.



Also, the slickness is better than OS and much better than AJT.



At least for yellow, UPGP is now my favorite sealant.



I will try it on Silver next.



It will look good on silver, though I'd bet a wax would look better.
 
wfedwar said:
Interested to hear your opinion. Are you applying it to bare paint or are you using the Ultima primer?



Bare paint, after clay, Menzerna SIP, 106FF and IPA wipe down.



Danforz said:
It will look good on silver, though I'd bet a wax would look better.



I've always preferred the looks of sealants on Silver. The only two colors that I have preferred carnauba on are black and red.



Bence said:
UPGP is the most blingy initially, but as OOS cures, it closes up in appearance.



What's funny is that about 40 minutes after applying UPGP I said to myself "man, this is pretty disappointing stuff, Opti-seal definitely looks better". Then I caught myself and realized that it needed a lot more time to cure before I could make a valid judgment (and I knew that from using Opti-Seal).



Well, about 9 hours later, the looks of the UPGP changed dramatically for the better. It really does look great. It's always hard to make a direct comparison from memory, but the UPGP does seem to have a bit more gloss, wetness and depth to it than OS, at least on my yellow paint. It surely isn't night and day by any means, but I do believe that there is a difference.



We will see how it holds up.
 
I got a black Lexus non-metallic. Which one would give a better look as in wet deep and glossy or like a wAx would give? Ultima or optiseal?
 
wfedwar said:
Interested to hear your opinion. Are you applying it to bare paint or are you using the Ultima primer?



I have just used UPGP on bare paint without UPP and get excellent results. Will last 4-5 months east with three coats applied 24 hours apart to cure.



Who knows, maybe I would get another month with UPP, but works great without it.
 
After doing a few cars with each, it seems to me that UPGP looks great at greater angles, but looking straight at the paint, it almost dulls it? I don't have that issue with the Optiseal. Optiseal doesn't have the candy look.
 
yakky said:
After doing a few cars with each, it seems to me that UPGP looks great at greater angles, but looking straight at the paint, it almost dulls it? I don't have that issue with the Optiseal. Optiseal doesn't have the candy look.



Completely disagree that UPGP "dulls" the look of the paint.
 
Rob Tomlin said:
Completely disagree that UPGP "dulls" the look of the paint.



Agreed. I used UPGP on my Space Gray BMW (Think the classic BMW gray, a bit darker with flake) and the flake popped when looked at directly.
 
yakky said:
After doing a few cars with each, it seems to me that UPGP looks great at greater angles, but looking straight at the paint, it almost dulls it? I don't have that issue with the Optiseal. Optiseal doesn't have the candy look.



An old bottle of UPGP has given me a dull look. The key is a newer bottle that you know is new from the date stamp on the bottom.



As I posted on another thread on UPGP, I am now keeping it in an air tight zip lock when not being used to see if that works.



A bottle seems to be good for about a year. After that it does give a kind of dull look and does not have the appearance of another layer of clearcoat.
 
tmg19103 said:
An old bottle of UPGP has given me a dull look. The key is a newer bottle that you know is new from the date stamp on the bottom.



As I posted on another thread on UPGP, I am now keeping it in an air tight zip lock when not being used to see if that works.



A bottle seems to be good for about a year. After that it does give a kind of dull look and does not have the appearance of another layer of clearcoat.



Damn, I guess that is my problem, I got it from Autogeek and its over a year old. The UPGP doesn't look clear in the bottle, its almost milky, but there are no solids or anything. QD'ing gives me my shine back.
 
yakky said:
After doing a few cars with each, it seems to me that UPGP looks great at greater angles, but looking straight at the paint, it almost dulls it? I don't have that issue with the Optiseal. Optiseal doesn't have the candy look.

Yakky, that's how I perceive the UPGP too. It looks wonderful when viewed from flatter angles yet absolutely nothing special when the angle is close to 90 degrees. And water clings to it - I managed to open my trunk and 80% of the beads stay put.



My OOS though gives a consistent "it's there" look no matter what the angles are.
 
Bence said:
Yakky, that's how I perceive the UPGP too. It looks wonderful when viewed from flatter angles yet absolutely nothing special when the angle is close to 90 degrees. And water clings to it - I managed to open my trunk and 80% of the beads stay put.



My OOS though gives a consistent "it's there" look no matter what the angles are.



Yep, that exactly what I'm seeing. I get the same with DWG or not. In fact I noticed it muted DWG after applying. I used OID on top and the bling was back. Maybe we have an older batch? Mine is dated from 08.
 
yakky said:
Yep, that exactly what I'm seeing. I get the same with DWG or not. In fact I noticed it muted DWG after applying. I used OID on top and the bling was back. Maybe we have an older batch? Mine is dated from 08.



I wonder if we can get Dave to chime in on this? :sadwavey:
 
yakky said:
Yep, that exactly what I'm seeing. I get the same with DWG or not. In fact I noticed it muted DWG after applying. I used OID on top and the bling was back. Maybe we have an older batch? Mine is dated from 08.



My experience with DWG is that it only looks really good if applied with a buffer.



By hand, on my jet black, I find DWG looks kind of dull.



New bottle of UPGP with three coats given 24 hours each to cure over DWG applied with a PC is an amazing look on my jet black - and it lasts and lasts.
 
tmg19103 said:
My experience with DWG is that it only looks really good if applied with a buffer.



By hand, on my jet black, I find DWG looks kind of dull.



That's my experience as well.
 
Bence said:
Yakky, that's how I perceive the UPGP too. It looks wonderful when viewed from flatter angles yet absolutely nothing special when the angle is close to 90 degrees. And water clings to it - I managed to open my trunk and 80% of the beads stay put.



My OOS though gives a consistent "it's there" look no matter what the angles are.



That's very strange, because we are on the same page 90% of the time. If anything, to me, the UPGP has a more solid "it's there" look to it, even from looking straight at it, compared to OS.



Am I just in the "honeymoon stage" since my UPGP was applied 5-6 days ago?
 
Hey yakky did you transfer the UPGP to another bottle? I cant even tell how mine looks since the bottle is so dark.



BTW, if you did transfer it that might have had an effect on it. When I was having some issues with OS, I suggested transferring the product to another bottle and DrG said it would actually be detrimental to the product.
 
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