Wax Suggestion

How would you define "better results"? What`s the current deficiency? If the answer is "well, there isn`t one really..." and you just want to try something different, I`d go for the Souveran. Or look into a line like Polish Angel or McKee`s. You can turn waxing that `vette and evaluating the appearance into a whole separate hobby if you want to :D

ThanksAccumulator.

To be honest, I was in my early 20`s when I last used Collinite, and had no detailing experience. There were also no forums like this one to learn from. Not much internet for that matter. I was probably using way too much product.

All that said, what I would consider "better" would be better shine, wet look and deeper color. I want the car to look like a million bucks, hands down. I don`t mind spending for a better performing product, although I`ve seen some waxes sell in the hundreds. I`m not ready to go that far, but I`d spend around $100-$200 if the product were truly worth the cost.
 
Maybe I read something wrong ; but the Dodo is recommending their black wax for a blue car?

I have their Blue Velvet Pro I have used on my blue Pathfinder. I`d describe the look as adding a crayon blue look to the paint.

I`ve also used BVP on my black BMW. It was nice, but it didn`t stand out in the scheme of things.
 
There was a thread posted a while back on a blue Dodge Viper with Polish Angel master sealant and Dodo Juice hard candy wax. I immediately ordered the Dodo Juice wax, but have yet to try it. Waiting for the rain to stop lol.

The gloss on that car was ridiculous. Unfortunately, it seems the pictures on the thread were deleted.
 
Natty`s blue
Natty`s black
Pinnacle Souveran
Fuzion
Black Ice
Synergy



Black Ice is not just for black.
 
To be honest, I was in my early 20`s when I last used Collinite, and had no detailing experience. There were also no forums like this one to learn from. Not much internet for that matter. I was probably using way too much product.

Heh heh, that does probably explain a lot :D Revisit Collinite now and you`ll probably find it a lot easier. IMO you`ll find that gives a "deeper" look than P21s but I`m not sure it`d be "right" for that paint (heh heh, note all those scare-quotes).

All that said, what I would consider "better" would be better shine, wet look and deeper color. I want the car to look like a million bucks, hands down. I don`t mind spending for a better performing product, although I`ve seen some waxes sell in the hundreds. I`m not ready to go that far, but I`d spend around $100-$200 if the product were truly worth the cost.

OK, thanks for explaining. IMO getting more depth without muting the flake is the challenge IMO.

I tend to be pretty cynical about the supposed merits of Specialty Waxes overall, while still being highly opinionated about what I myself like on my cars. I`ve heard supposed Detailing Experts confidently/authoritatively.... mistake cheap waxes for exotic ones; I`ve had people with zero interest in/knowledge of this stuff notice pretty subtle differences in waxes *immediately* upon seeing the vehicle. Ya just don`t know until you see how something looks *to you* (or whomever you`re trying to impress).

I wouldn`t go off the deep end by spending hundreds even if you can resist the subsequent temptation to see what you want to see and feeling that you got your money`s worth.

So assuming you already have the clear marring-free and polished to perfection (the primary basis of "good looking paint")... I`ll still stick with Souveran. If you don`t notice a diff between it and P21s that`ll be a learning experience in itself. IME it does not mute flake at all (looks great on silver) but it does give depth and jetting on medium/dark colors. It`s one of those Standard Products in the Detailing World, like Haig & Haig Pinch is in the world of Scotch Whiskey- slightly pricey (but not awful) and maybe not be to your taste (again, won`t be awful either), but still something to have experienced if you`re interested in the subject.

Swanicyouth said:
I have their Blue Velvet Pro I have used on my blue Pathfinder. I`d describe the look as adding a crayon blue look to the paint.


Hey, that`s interesting to me (despite my general lack of interest in such LSPs ;) )! You noticed that it imparted that diff and you know how the diff appears to you.

I`ve also used BVP on my black BMW. It was nice, but it didn`t stand out in the scheme of things.

No surprise there, but that might be my cynicism again. I only see a few different ways Black can go, at least in a big obvious way. But OTOH, given how it looked on your Pathfinder, I find it interesting that it didn`t somehow impart a blueish cast. The Kendrick Lexus dealership used something on my Granite Metallic Yukon XLD that gave it a *distinct* blue cast...I was actually disappointed when a proper detail revealed how the paint looked naturally. Only time I can recall ever seeing such a thing (and whatever it was did some incredible filling too).
 
To be honest, I was in my early 20`s when I last used Collinite, and had no detailing experience. There were also no forums like this one to learn from. Not much internet for that matter. I was probably using way too much product.

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You mean when we used to "Put on a ""heavy coat of wax for winter"""
 
You mean when we used to "Put on a ""heavy coat of wax for winter"""

Heh heh, did people ever really do that? It`s like the "apply wax but don`t buff it off" thing...I`ve heard of it but never really thought that anyone would actually do it.
 
Heh heh, did people ever really do that? It`s like the "apply wax but don`t buff it off" thing...I`ve heard of it but never really thought that anyone would actually do it.
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Ron nailed it there! That was back in the late `80s and earl `90s. When winter came, I would apply it to the rocker panels and not buff off just as an added protection from the road salt. Again, I was in my late teens, and there weren`t detailing forums like this.
 
Maybe I read something wrong ; but the Dodo is recommending their black wax for a blue car?

I have their Blue Velvet Pro I have used on my blue Pathfinder. I`d describe the look as adding a crayon blue look to the paint.

I`ve also used BVP on my black BMW. It was nice, but it didn`t stand out in the scheme of things.
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The color on my car already looks like a crayon with metal flake added, so I doubt I need the added crayon effect of Blue Velvet. It`s sounding like Pinnacle Souveran will be a good start for me. And would make a great stocking stuffer from my wife
 
Zymol Carbon, added depth & warmth, went on like melted butter, then off like I was dusting the car.
Holding up in 2 Minn. snow storms so far..

That car is wonderful ! Thanks for posting.
 
Well... after all the suggestions I couldn`t decide between Souveran and Fuzion, so I bought both in the small, 3oz containers to try. Not sure how I`ll do the comparison, half of the hood each; or full car Souveran for two months then full Fuzion for two months. The half car would be better for comparison, but if there is a difference between the two the car won`t look right all summer and would annoy the heck out of me.
 
Well... after all the suggestions I couldn`t decide between Souveran and Fuzion, so I bought both in the small, 3oz containers to try. Not sure how I`ll do the comparison, half of the hood each; or full car Souveran for two months then full Fuzion for two months. The half car would be better for comparison, but if there is a difference between the two the car won`t look right all summer and would annoy the heck out of me.

Only one way to find out................

Have you been properly welcomed to the addiction?
 
Only one way to find out................

Have you been properly welcomed to the addiction?

LOL, I believe I have! I can only imagine it getting worse after I learn how to use the DA polisher I bought...

Thanks Ron. Don`t forget I`ll be in FL late January and will reach out before I make the trip. Maybe we can meet up at a car show...
 
Well... ]I might try]..Souveran for two months..

Much as I like Souveran, I wouldn`t count on it lasting two months unless the car never leaves the garage.

FWIW, I`d do the comparison 50:50 on one panel...determine preference, redo the losing half with the product you prefer.
 
Then it`s good that the Souveran is so easy to use :D

I can understand that. Just to clarify, I don`t expect the wax to last two months. I just chose two months so I can see the car in a variety of environments (overcast, sunny, light rain) and to see how the dirt and bugs come off after a few washes. Also how it holds up with rinseless washes, which are my usual clean up. In the two months I`ve driven it so far, it`s only had two full spongebaths. The second being the "put into storage" clean up.

I don`t mind taking the time to wax, especially for a WOWO. P21S was awesome for that. I`m assuming the Souveran will be as durable (or lack thereof) as P21S. So I`ll be reapplying every 3-4 weeks depending on how much I drive. Honestly, if the weather is bad the vette won`t leave the garage just so I don`t have countless hours of clean up getting the crud out of all the cracks and crevices. After 2 months I have 1600 miles on it. I expect that to be the norm over a full summer, 800 per month.
 
I can understand that. Just to clarify, I don`t expect the wax to last two months. I just chose two months so I can see the car in a variety of environments (overcast, sunny, light rain) and to see how the dirt and bugs come off after a few washes. Also how it holds up with rinseless washes, which are my usual clean up. In the two months I`ve driven it so far, it`s only had two full spongebaths. The second being the "put into storage" clean up.

I don`t mind taking the time to wax, especially for a WOWO. P21S was awesome for that. I`m assuming the Souveran will be as durable (or lack thereof) as P21S. So I`ll be reapplying every 3-4 weeks depending on how much I drive. Honestly, if the weather is bad the vette won`t leave the garage just so I don`t have countless hours of clean up getting the crud out of all the cracks and crevices. After 2 months I have 1600 miles on it. I expect that to be the norm over a full summer, 800 per month.

I have Souveran on my BMW now. It only gets driven in dry weather and stays in the garage. Car is driven 7k miles a year. I usually top it off after every wash (about every 2 months) because it`s so easy to use. Can wax the car in under 20 mins.

I also recommend using Pinnacle waterless and rinseless with it - they are very good and my top choice.


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