Wax for Canadian Winters?

User Name said:
When I used KSG, it seemed very watery, is that normal? It seemed to bead on my applicator pad, is that normal?
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picus said:
Yes and yes.
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Huh, never noticed that second one :think:



Noting that my oft-described way of getting KSG onto the pad might make all the difference, it just soaks into my foam applicator :nixweiss
 
Ah, I guess I shouldn't have just said yes assuming it beads on applicators for everyone. On the yellow foam applicators I use both KSG and Jeffs AJ do bead; they eventually soak in, and after the pad is primed it soaks in more quickly; but initially they bead.
 
Picus said:
Ah, I guess I shouldn't have just said yes assuming it beads on applicators for everyone. On the yellow foam applicators I use both KSG and Jeffs AJ do bead; they eventually soak in, and after the pad is primed it soaks in more quickly; but initially they bead.
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That is exactly the pad I used (yellow foam applicator) and initially it beads. Once you start working it into the paint the pad starts to absorb the KSG.
 
Apollo_Auto said:
Collinite 885 is what the boys at Collinite use (from a trusted source). I use it to on customers' cars.
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Did your "trusted" source mention about any differences between 885 and 476s? I would have thought they would be the same but if you have any info that indicates otherwise...I would just stick with 885.



Thanks.
 
User Name & Picus- Guess the way I get the KSG onto the pad pretty much precludes its beading as it's sorta forced into the foam to some degree, or rather there's just not enough KSG deposited on the pad for it to bead :think:



What, are you pouring the KSG onto the pad or something like that?



Maybe I oughta repeat my "oft-described" method: I hold the app over the opening in the bottle (which is right-side up) and shake it, depositing a drop of KSG on the pad, move the pad a little and repeat until the pad is just barely a little damp with KSG, then I fold the pad and rub it together to distribute the KSG a bit better. I end up having, oh I dunno..maybe 9-12 tiny drops of KSG on it by the time I start rubbing the applicator on the paint.
 
User Name said:
Accumulator,



I have mine in a squeeze type bottle with a pointed tip. Turn it over and drip or squeeze it out.
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Same - I guess I am just used to squeezing liquid LSPs on to applicators. Most of them are thicker than KSG. Still though, you use so little it doesn't make much of a difference. I've had my 32oz of KSG for years.
 
corrswitch said:
Did your "trusted" source mention about any differences between 885 and 476s? I would have thought they would be the same but if you have any info that indicates otherwise...I would just stick with 885.



Thanks.
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Same stuff re-branded for a different market :)
 
I put on Collinite 476/885 in October 2007, 3 coats, lasted well through Northeastern winter, many trips up to the mountains, salt, grime et al. Beaded nicely through April when I took it off. Did same for this winter, it's holding up again well this year. Use Collinite 859 on my folks car, lasting well this winter. Put FK1000P on my mother-in-law's car, that's doing well for her.
 
User Name & Picus- OK, thanks for the explantion about your KSG bottles. I somehow get the feeling that Picus is using less than User Name, but who knows..this talk of "squeezing" the bottle makes me think "gallons of product squirting out" though :chuckle: J/K, J/K...



Yeah, my 32 oz. bottle of KSG is lasting forever too..plenty left after 8 years (including a few major spills :o ).
 
When I tip my bottle over nothing comes out unless I squeeze - the dispenser hole thingy is really tight. When I squeeze I get maybe two small drops (like the size of a small pea), then start applying. I might use 8 drops over the entire car, way less than an oz.
 
Accumulator said:
User Name & Picus- OK, thanks for the explantion about your KSG bottles. I somehow get the feeling that Picus is using less than User Name, but who knows..this talk of "squeezing" the bottle makes me think "gallons of product squirting out" though :chuckle: J/K, J/K...



Yeah, my 32 oz. bottle of KSG is lasting forever too..plenty left after 8 years (including a few major spills :o ).
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What makes you think that? I took my LSP application from my uncle who is a "tile guy".



I apply wax the way he applies thin set.



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LOL!



Seriously though, I think I definitely use more than Picus.
 
I've definitely been guilty of using too much product in the past (all LSPs), but I also think it is a product of having a white and silver cars. If you don't get it on REALLY thick, how do you know its even on? ;)
 
User Name said:
.. I also think it is a product of having a white and silver cars. If you don't get it on REALLY thick, how do you know its even on? ;)
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Noting that the vast majority of vehicles I use sealants on are silver (with a white one now and then), I know by non-visual means; you're right that with a thin application it's not really possible to see the LSP on the paint unless you *really* work at it.



Primarily, I know I've covered/not an area because I apply in a rather deliberate, careful, and methodical manner. I'm confident that if I have sealant on the applicator, and I rub said applicator over an area, the sealant will transfer. Also, there is a tactile quality that can help too- areas you've done have less friction/feel smoother or slipperier than the areas you haven't (though this can be kinda subtle). A sudden increase in the friction is often my cue to add more sealant to the applicator, but that can get tricky when applying FK1000P because I use FK425 to moisten the applicator and the FK425 keeps things slick all by itself. With KSG/UPP it's not an issue because I never have anything else on the applicator.
 
Abrasives used on the road here are way too strong (and used in much too large quantity), no LSP I tried could ever get through the winter. It gets eaten through after at best 2 months. That record is held by Collinite 476.
 
skuz said:
Abrasives used on the road here are way too strong (and used in much too large quantity), no LSP I tried could ever get through the winter. It gets eaten through after at best 2 months. That record is held by Collinite 476.
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At least one other Canuck agrees with me. I'm sure you get quite the winters in the PQ which will test the best of LSPs.



BTW, is it true that "winter tires" are now mandatory in Quebec during the winter months?
 
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