Trump 2016

Trumps cabinet would include Phil Robertson of duck dynasty and Sarah Palin. This is really comical to see the clown show getting even crazier.
 
Nobody is surprised. A door knob could win the next election as long as they aren't an insider politician. That's what the last 50 years has brought us to.
 
Quite frankly, the way I feel about it, I'll vote for Trump in a second. At least he has done *something* in this world successfully besides being a politician.

If we elect another career politician, whatever party - expect more of what has been going on for the past 70 years... Increased taxes for people who go to work everyday....Nit wits making an issue out of abortion.... Increasing entitlements for anyone happy living at the poverty level.

I'm not going to act like I'm super politically aware (I'm not), but I get the feeling working Americans will get more out of Trump than any career politician.

Kicking out illegals and building a wall is at least a step in the right direction, especially when the alternative is giving them drivers licenses and free medical care.

I would like The Donald to tell all the illegals and welfare recipients: "Your Fired".
 
Swanicyouth said:
I would like The Donald to tell all the illegals and welfare recipients: "Your Fired".
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I think the illegals are a red herring to dodge the more important fundamental issues. The best political tactic is to make you fear something and blame it on someone while distracting away from the real issues. We had crime and freeloaders from legal immigrants and citizens for years.

If we magically made all the illegals disappear, we would find they were contributing a lot to the economy. Even Donald admits we will let the good ones back. We cannot even get rid of the "bad" citizens.

As Obama has shown, the president actually cannot do that much without Congressional approval (despite complaints of his limited actions) and Donald will not get very far with the establishment republicans and democrats if elected. Ron Paul would have faced a similar fate despite making some feel good to make a statement.

The next president needs to be able to work deals in order to make any progress unless one party gets both the House and Senate (more than 60 seats). Otherwise, grid lock will continue.
 
Bunky said:
As Obama has shown, the president actually cannot do that much without Congressional approval (despite complaints of his limited actions) .

The next president needs to be able to work deals in order to make any progress unless one party gets both the House and Senate (more than 60 seats). Otherwise, grid lock will continue.
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I disagree here Al. Obama has done plenty without the benefit (read bypass) of Congress, AFTER he lost his "super majority"

Before someone says, "It's nothing any other President has done....." I pose the following question.
Is the person who runs a stop sign just as guilty as someone who commits murder?

Answer: Yes, but the degree of the action is way different.
 
Ronkh said:
I disagree here Al. Obama has done plenty without the benefit (read bypass) of Congress, AFTER he lost his "super majority"

Before someone says, "It's nothing any other President has done....." I pose the following question.
Is the person who runs a stop sign just as guilty as someone who commits murder?

Answer: Yes, but the degree of the action is way different.
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I agree that violating the laws is not right. There are always at least 3 sides: the lawyers for each side and the truth. For example, is deciding not to deport illegal? In this case, Congress could resolve much by just passing legislation to resolve it.

Net, take them to court.
 
Bunky said:
I agree that violating the laws is not right. There are always at least 3 sides: the lawyers for each side and the truth. For example, is deciding not to deport illegal? In this case, Congress could resolve much by just passing legislation to resolve it.

Net, take them to court.
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Over simplified statement. Still gotta get it to be signed by President.
 
Ronkh said:
Over simplified statement. Still gotta get it to be signed by President.
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If it can pass both the house and senate with the current make up, I think Obama would sign it.

If the Houses passes it I bet there will be enough Republicans in the Senate to override a veto since getting the House republicans to agree has been the issue. The Senate passed a bill that was too liberal for the House GOP. The sticking issue has been the path to citizenship and passing a bill to get it to a joint committee is something some on both sides may not want.
 
Bunky said:
If it can pass both the house and senate with the current make up, I think Obama would sign it.
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You mean like the iran nuke deal? The trade of 5 for bergdall (sp)

Or any of these listed or not listed (supposedly due to national security)


PPD 1 Organization of the National Security Council System 02/13/09
PPD 2 Implementation of the National Strategy for Countering Biological Threats (National Strategy) 11/23/09
PPD 3
PPD 4 National Space Policy (Fact Sheet) 06/29/10
PPD 5
PPD 6 Global Development (Fact Sheet) 09/22/10
PPD 7 National Terrorism Advisory System (NTAS) 01/26/11
PPD 8 National Preparedness 03/30/11
PPD 9
PPD 10 US Ballistic Missile Defenses
PPD 11 [terms of reference for Nuclear Posture Review implementation study]
PPD 12
PPD 13 Political and Economic Reform in the Middle East and North Africa
PPD 14 Procedures Implementing Section 1022 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 (Fact Sheet) 02/28/12
PPD 15 Implementation of the Treaty on Open Skies 03/01/12
PPD 16 U.S. Strategy for Sub-Saharan Africa 06/14/12
PPD 17 Countering Improvised Explosive Devices
PPD 18 National Strategy for Maritime Security
PPD 19 Protecting Whistleblowers with Access to Classified Information 10/10/12
PPD 20 U.S. Cyber Operations Policy (Fact Sheet) 10/16/12
PPD 21 Critical Infrastructure Security and Resilience 02/12/13
PPD 22
PPD 23 Security Sector Assistance (Fact Sheet) 04/05/13
PPD 24 [nuclear weapons employment guidance]
PPD 25
PPD 26
PPD 27 United States Conventional Arms Transfer Policy 01/15/14
PPD 28 Signals Intelligence Activities 01/17/14
PPD 29
PPD 30 U.S. Nationals Taken Hostage Abroad and Personnel Recovery Efforts 06/24/15




Or numerous laws that he chooses not to abide or circumvent............
 
Ya'll are seeing a problem and seeking a fix for it in the form of a bucket catching water from a dripping roof and not fixing the roof.

Politicians in and of themselves are not the problem but rather they system in which they operate. That is flawed. So instead of trying to fix the problems at the location of "D" and "E" which just adds more crap upon already dried crap we need to look at where the problem started, which is always "A". Find a solution to "A" and no longer will we need to place buckets under a leaking roof.

Can it be done? Sure. Will it be done? No! But why? Because the balance of power will be shifted from the "few" to the "People" and this can't happen for in the eyes of the "few" they know what's best for the People.

Look at how the branches of government was supposed to work and operate. It was a unique blend of checks and balances. A representative of the People would go and speak on their behalf their concerns, wants and needs. They would then return to their home and farm their land or continue their bakery, blacksmith, etc. They were NOT set in stone politicians we now see today.

We just recently had the Supreme court tell each individual state that under the Constitution xxxxsexuals are entitled to marriage equal as those of a heterosexual couple. Where does the Constitution say anything about marriage in the sense of it being equal? Yet it is now law and that law trumps any states Constitution.

Yet Federal law is always balked at with those seeking to protect "sanctuary cities" for illegal aliens. Marijuana is a illegal drug under federal law, yet states are making it legal? What in the hell is going on?

If a "LAW" is a law then it should be upheld yet those in power claim we need MORE laws to take care of the laws we have because more laws, more red tape, more power by the "few" is obviously what the People need. The People are just too stupid to grasp this concept.

How many people reading this have been busted for "contempt of court" and just walked away from it and had no penalty to pay at all? Well it's because you are not power connected nor a politician.

So it matters not who gets voted in the sense of "fixing" the broken system because the "few" have a stranglehold on said system. Look at the corruption of Hillary and her clan and yet she still has a chance to become President!!

If the system worked as it should she would be shamed out of the public service area.

Is Trump a good choice? Maybe, considering we hired an asshat "community organizer" and kept him for 8 years....ya, Trump has a chance.

-Anthony
 
Good grief.....I can't believe this software censored "H-0-M-Osexual"??

Political correctness is fricken xxx...and killing society
 
And apparently one can't type or say "G-A-Y"

What about if I used the word as it was intended....to express happiness? What if I want to sing a Christmas carol...."G-A-Y apparel"? Pathetic
 
Ronkh said:
You mean like the iran nuke deal? The trade of 5 for bergdall (sp)

Or any of these listed or not listed (supposedly due to national security)
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Well, every vote in Congress is all about politics which is why no one is solving much since votes are for political posturing to use in the next election. If we solved this issues, they could not justify why someone should vote for them.

We need term limits, no congressional pensions, etc after serving, use the same health care as the average citizen, etc.

But, GWB had a number of his own directives but they were elected as president.

National Security Presidential Directives

NSPD 1 Organization of the National Security Council System 13 February 01
NSPD 2 Improving Military Quality of Life 15 February 01
NSPD 3 Defense Strategy, Force Structure, and Procurement 15 February 01
NSPD 4 Transforming Deterrence 15 February 01
NSPD 5 [Review of U.S. intelligence] 9 May 01
NSPD 6
NSPD 7
NSPD 8 National Director and Deputy National Security Advisor for Combating Terrorism
NSPD 9 Defeating the Terrorist Threat to the United States 25 October 01
NSPD 10 U.S. Strategic Nuclear Forces 21 December 01
NSPD 12 United States Citizens Taken Hostage Abroad 18 February 02
NSPD 13 United States Policy and Organization for the Implementation of the Treaty on Open Skies 16 May 02
NSPD 14 Nuclear Weapons Planning Guidance 28 June 02
NSPD 15 National Space Policy Review [resulting in U.S. Commercial Remote Sensing Policy, 25 April 2003] 28 June 02
NSPD 16 [To Develop Guidelines for Offensive Cyber-Warfare] XX July 02(?)
NSPD 17 [National Strategy to Combat Weapons of Mass Destruction] (unclassified version)(PDF) 11 Dec 02(unclassified)
14 Sep 02(classified)
NSPD XX(?) [Authorizing Training for Iraqi Opposition Forces] 03 Oct 02(?)
NSPD 18 Supporting Democracy in Colombia Nov 02
NSPD 19 [Review of Defense Trade Export Policy]
NSPD 20 Counterproliferation Interdiction
NSPD 21 Support for Inspections in Iraq Nov 02
NSPD 22 Trafficking in Persons 16 Dec 02
NSPD 23 National Policy on Ballistic Missile Defense 16 Dec 02
NSPD 24 [Post-War Iraq Reconstruction] 20 January 2003
NSPD 25 [directs U.S. government agencies to attack the vulnerabilities of drug trafficking organizations]
NSPD 26 Intelligence Priorities 24 February 2003
NSPD 27 U.S. Commercial Remote Sensing Space Policy 25 April 2003
NSPD 28 United States Nuclear Weapons Command and Control, Safety, and Security 20 June 2003
NSPD 29 [Transition to Democracy in Cuba] 30 November 2003
NSPD 31 U.S. Space Exploration Policy 14 January 2004
NSPD 32 [Latin America Policy]
NSPD 33 Biodefense for the 21st Century 28 April 2004
NSPD 34 Fiscal Year 2004-2012 Nuclear Weapons Stockpile Plan May 2004
NSPD 35 Nuclear Weapons Deployment Authorization 6 May 2004
NSPD 36 United States Government Operations in Iraq 11 May 2004
NSPD 37 Relating to Support of Iraqi Government 2004
NSPD 38 National Strategy to Secure Cyberspace 7 July 2004
NSPD 39 U.S. Space-Based Position, Navigation, and Timing Policy 08 December 2004
NSPD 40 U.S. Space Transportation Policy 21 December 2004
NSPD 41 Maritime Security Policy 21 December 2004
NSPD 42 On Significant Military Exercise Briefs (SMEB) 26 January 2005
NSPD 43 Domestic Nuclear Detection 15 April 2005
NSPD 44 Management of Interagency Efforts Concerning Reconstruction and Stabilization (Fact Sheet) 7 December 2005
NSPD 46 U.S. Strategy and Policy in the War on Terror 6 March 2006
NSPD 47 National Strategy for Aviation Security 22 June 2006
NSPD 48 Nuclear Materials Information Program 28 August 2006
NSPD 49 U.S. National Space Policy 31 August 2006
NSPD 50 U.S. Strategy for Sub-Saharan Africa 2007
NSPD 51 National Continuity Policy 4 April 2007
NSPD 54 Cybersecurity Policy (via EPIC) 8 January 2008
NSPD 55 [on dual-use export controls] January 2008
NSPD 56 Defense Trade Reform 22 January 2008
NSPD 57 Implementation of the US-IAEA Additional Protocol 04 February 2008
NSPD 58 Advancing the Freedom Agenda (Fact Sheet) 21 May 2008 (?)
NSPD 59 Biometrics for Identification and Screening to Enhance National Security 5 June 2008
NSPD 66 Arctic Region Policy 9 January 200


Homeland Security Presidential Directive

HSPD 1 Organization and Operation of the Homeland Security Council 29 Oct 01
HSPD 2 Combating Terrorism Through Immigration Policies 29 Oct 01
HSPD 3 Homeland Security Advisory System 11 March 02
HSPD 4 National Strategy to Combat Weapons of Mass Destruction (unclassified version) 11 December 02
HSPD 5 Management of Domestic Incidents [Initial National Response Plan, 30 September 03] 28 February 03
HSPD 6 Integration and Use of Screening Information to Protect Against Terrorism 16 September 03
HSPD 7 Critical Infrastructure Identification, Prioritization, and Protection 17 December 03
HSPD 8 National Preparedness 17 December 03
HSPD 9 Defense of United States Agriculture and Food 30 January 04
HSPD 10 Biodefense for the 21st Century 28 April 04
HSPD 11 Comprehensive Terrorist-Related Screening Procedures 27 August 04
HSPD 12 Policy for a Common Identification Standard for Federal Employees and Contractors 27 August 04
HSPD 13 Maritime Security Policy 21 December 2004
HSPD 14 Domestic Nuclear Detection 15 April 2005
HSPD 15 U.S. Strategy and Policy in the War on Terror (classified directive) 6 March 2006
HSPD 16 National Strategy for Aviation Security 22 June 2006
HSPD 17 Nuclear Materials Information Program 28 August 2006
HSPD 18 Medical Countermeasures Against Weapons of Mass Destruction 31 January 2007
HSPD 19 Combating Terrorist Use of Explosives in the United States 12 February 2007
HSPD 20 National Continuity Policy 4 April 2007
HSPD 21 Public Health and Medical Preparedness 18 October 2007
HSPD 22 Domestic Chemical Defense
HSPD 23 Cybersecurity Policy (via EPIC) 8 January 2008
HSPD 24 Biometrics for Identification and Screening to Enhance National Security 5 June 2008
HSPD 25 Arctic Region Policy 9 January 2009
 
Ronkh said:
I disagree here Al. Obama has done plenty without the benefit (read bypass) of Congress, AFTER he lost his "super majority"

Before someone says, "It's nothing any other President has done....." I pose the following question.
Is the person who runs a stop sign just as guilty as someone who commits murder?

Answer: Yes, but the degree of the action is way different.
Click to expand...

Bunky said:
Well, every vote in Congress is all about politics which is why no one is solving much since votes are for political posturing to use in the next election. If we solved this issues, they could not justify why someone should vote for them.

We need term limits, no congressional pensions, etc after serving, use the same health care as the average citizen, etc.

But, GWB had a number of his own directives but they were elected as president.

National Security Presidential Directives

NSPD 1 Organization of the National Security Council System 13 February 01
NSPD 2 Improving Military Quality of Life 15 February 01
NSPD 3 Defense Strategy, Force Structure, and Procurement 15 February 01
NSPD 4 Transforming Deterrence 15 February 01
NSPD 5 [Review of U.S. intelligence] 9 May 01
NSPD 6
NSPD 7
NSPD 8 National Director and Deputy National Security Advisor for Combating Terrorism
NSPD 9 Defeating the Terrorist Threat to the United States 25 October 01
NSPD 10 U.S. Strategic Nuclear Forces 21 December 01
NSPD 12 United States Citizens Taken Hostage Abroad 18 February 02
NSPD 13 United States Policy and Organization for the Implementation of the Treaty on Open Skies 16 May 02
NSPD 14 Nuclear Weapons Planning Guidance 28 June 02
NSPD 15 National Space Policy Review [resulting in U.S. Commercial Remote Sensing Policy, 25 April 2003] 28 June 02
NSPD 16 [To Develop Guidelines for Offensive Cyber-Warfare] XX July 02(?)
NSPD 17 [National Strategy to Combat Weapons of Mass Destruction] (unclassified version)(PDF) 11 Dec 02(unclassified)
14 Sep 02(classified)
NSPD XX(?) [Authorizing Training for Iraqi Opposition Forces] 03 Oct 02(?)
NSPD 18 Supporting Democracy in Colombia Nov 02
NSPD 19 [Review of Defense Trade Export Policy]
NSPD 20 Counterproliferation Interdiction
NSPD 21 Support for Inspections in Iraq Nov 02
NSPD 22 Trafficking in Persons 16 Dec 02
NSPD 23 National Policy on Ballistic Missile Defense 16 Dec 02
NSPD 24 [Post-War Iraq Reconstruction] 20 January 2003
NSPD 25 [directs U.S. government agencies to attack the vulnerabilities of drug trafficking organizations]
NSPD 26 Intelligence Priorities 24 February 2003
NSPD 27 U.S. Commercial Remote Sensing Space Policy 25 April 2003
NSPD 28 United States Nuclear Weapons Command and Control, Safety, and Security 20 June 2003
NSPD 29 [Transition to Democracy in Cuba] 30 November 2003
NSPD 31 U.S. Space Exploration Policy 14 January 2004
NSPD 32 [Latin America Policy]
NSPD 33 Biodefense for the 21st Century 28 April 2004
NSPD 34 Fiscal Year 2004-2012 Nuclear Weapons Stockpile Plan May 2004
NSPD 35 Nuclear Weapons Deployment Authorization 6 May 2004
NSPD 36 United States Government Operations in Iraq 11 May 2004
NSPD 37 Relating to Support of Iraqi Government 2004
NSPD 38 National Strategy to Secure Cyberspace 7 July 2004
NSPD 39 U.S. Space-Based Position, Navigation, and Timing Policy 08 December 2004
NSPD 40 U.S. Space Transportation Policy 21 December 2004
NSPD 41 Maritime Security Policy 21 December 2004
NSPD 42 On Significant Military Exercise Briefs (SMEB) 26 January 2005
NSPD 43 Domestic Nuclear Detection 15 April 2005
NSPD 44 Management of Interagency Efforts Concerning Reconstruction and Stabilization (Fact Sheet) 7 December 2005
NSPD 46 U.S. Strategy and Policy in the War on Terror 6 March 2006
NSPD 47 National Strategy for Aviation Security 22 June 2006
NSPD 48 Nuclear Materials Information Program 28 August 2006
NSPD 49 U.S. National Space Policy 31 August 2006
NSPD 50 U.S. Strategy for Sub-Saharan Africa 2007
NSPD 51 National Continuity Policy 4 April 2007
NSPD 54 Cybersecurity Policy (via EPIC) 8 January 2008
NSPD 55 [on dual-use export controls] January 2008
NSPD 56 Defense Trade Reform 22 January 2008
NSPD 57 Implementation of the US-IAEA Additional Protocol 04 February 2008
NSPD 58 Advancing the Freedom Agenda (Fact Sheet) 21 May 2008 (?)
NSPD 59 Biometrics for Identification and Screening to Enhance National Security 5 June 2008
NSPD 66 Arctic Region Policy 9 January 200


Homeland Security Presidential Directive

HSPD 1 Organization and Operation of the Homeland Security Council 29 Oct 01
HSPD 2 Combating Terrorism Through Immigration Policies 29 Oct 01
HSPD 3 Homeland Security Advisory System 11 March 02
HSPD 4 National Strategy to Combat Weapons of Mass Destruction (unclassified version) 11 December 02
HSPD 5 Management of Domestic Incidents [Initial National Response Plan, 30 September 03] 28 February 03
HSPD 6 Integration and Use of Screening Information to Protect Against Terrorism 16 September 03
HSPD 7 Critical Infrastructure Identification, Prioritization, and Protection 17 December 03
HSPD 8 National Preparedness 17 December 03
HSPD 9 Defense of United States Agriculture and Food 30 January 04
HSPD 10 Biodefense for the 21st Century 28 April 04
HSPD 11 Comprehensive Terrorist-Related Screening Procedures 27 August 04
HSPD 12 Policy for a Common Identification Standard for Federal Employees and Contractors 27 August 04
HSPD 13 Maritime Security Policy 21 December 2004
HSPD 14 Domestic Nuclear Detection 15 April 2005
HSPD 15 U.S. Strategy and Policy in the War on Terror (classified directive) 6 March 2006
HSPD 16 National Strategy for Aviation Security 22 June 2006
HSPD 17 Nuclear Materials Information Program 28 August 2006
HSPD 18 Medical Countermeasures Against Weapons of Mass Destruction 31 January 2007
HSPD 19 Combating Terrorist Use of Explosives in the United States 12 February 2007
HSPD 20 National Continuity Policy 4 April 2007
HSPD 21 Public Health and Medical Preparedness 18 October 2007
HSPD 22 Domestic Chemical Defense
HSPD 23 Cybersecurity Policy (via EPIC) 8 January 2008
HSPD 24 Biometrics for Identification and Screening to Enhance National Security 5 June 2008
HSPD 25 Arctic Region Policy 9 January 2009
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Please read red stuff above
 
I'm horrified by the thought of any of these guys being the next president. It will be interesting to see who makes it out of the clown car.
 
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