Tried Turtle Wax ICE Liquid Clay Bar today and have to say...

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RyanDe680 said:
I just do not see how a liquid can pull contaminents from the paint. What chemicals are in this solution then?? Is it compromising the long term durability of a clearcoat?
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As I understand it, clay doesn't "pull" contaminants from the paint. It contains super-fine abrasives and when buffered by a lube, it 'wet-sands' the contaminants off the surface and holds the debris in the clay.



I suppose a liquid *could* do that...Hey! Isn't that called a POLISH? :D
 
I finally tried the TW Liquid Clay. I wasn't too impressed, because the product seems a bit overhyped. First, the stuff is way too runny. I was hoping it would have a higher viscosity and not be so prone to spill. The pad that came with it had a nice little strap to slide over your hand; mine broke after about ten minutes. The product did produce a nice foam, but it didn't remove the debris from my rocker panels. I scrubbed and scrubbed. I still think the product may be a good idea for some light cleaning, but I will still rely on my Clay Magic for most of my claying needs. YMMV.



Oh, and I am not meaning to sound like I am bashing TW. Their Ice wash soap rocks. I love the stuff.
 
I guess as cheap as it is I will try some out to satisfy my curiosity, because I'd love if it actually worked well...however I'm very skeptical considering chemical cleaners like AIO don't work like clay and this new product supposedly doesn't mar..
 
Alfisti said:
As I understand it, clay doesn't "pull" contaminants from the paint. It contains super-fine abrasives and when buffered by a lube, it 'wet-sands' the contaminants off the surface and holds the debris in the clay.



I suppose a liquid *could* do that...Hey! Isn't that called a POLISH? :D
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This is a great point. Everybody seems to think that the CLAY is what removes the contaminents, but it is not. It worked great for me and a few others.
 
I'm not understanding how TW Ice Claybar can "remove swirls," which is one of its claims. Swirls are physical scratches in the clear coat. The only way to remove them is with an abrasive compound, mild or strong, to sand the clearcoat to the level of the scratch. yet TW Ice Claybar says it has no abrasives: "Does not contain harsh abrasives that can scratch or scuff your finish." (from the website)



So, HOW can they claim this product removes swirls? "Easily removes minor scratches, swirls marks, tree sap, paint overspray and embedded dirt and stains that ordinary detailing clays leave behind." (from the website) :nixweiss
 
Same way most of the others do it....Fill it...Not the right way, but the same way most of "them" advertise to remove swirls.
 
It's because TW makes horrible products, and has to lie to try to get new buyers. It is a thick filler, use your regular clay the normal way after you TWLCB it, and it WILL still have contaminants. Someone already said that very same statement.
 
I got it and tried it. I'm completely unimpressed. It's easy enough to use but it didn't do anything other than leave an oily residue behind. There is a possibility that it might work on a car that just needs a strong wash but I wouldn't rely on it for anything at this point.



If someone is local and wants to try it let me know.
 
lambostealth said:
It's because TW makes horrible products
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Do you really think all TW products are horrible? I happen to think the Platinum line is quite good. I also like their All Wheel and Tire Cleaner--replaced EO for me.
 
Pennypacker said:
Do you really think all TW products are horrible? I happen to think the Platinum line is quite good. I also like their All Wheel and Tire Cleaner--replaced EO for me.
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This is a classic example of someone judging something before they even try it for themselves.
 
joshtpa said:
This is a classic example of someone judging something before they even try it for themselves.
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And this is a classic example of someone making assumptions, and you know what they say about assumptions........



I have used the TWP Paste wax, and it did exactly what I thought it would do, unimpressed.



Every boutique wax that I have used, is far superior.



All of this is my opinion, don't let me get your panties up in a bunch, if you like it, use it!
 
We are not talking about the TW paste wax. We are speaking about a completely different line of products from them. You are "assuming" that all TW products are bad because you didnt like the one you tried. You know what they say about assumptions...
 
mschuyler said:
I'm not understanding how TW Ice Claybar can "remove swirls," which is one of its claims. Swirls are physical scratches in the clear coat. The only way to remove them is with an abrasive compound, mild or strong, to sand the clearcoat to the level of the scratch. yet TW Ice Claybar says it has no abrasives: "Does not contain harsh abrasives that can scratch or scuff your finish." (from the website)



So, HOW can they claim this product removes swirls? "Easily removes minor scratches, swirls marks, tree sap, paint overspray and embedded dirt and stains that ordinary detailing clays leave behind." (from the website) :nixweiss
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just thought I would put it out there, but the website says "Does not contain harsh abrasives that can scratch or scuff your finish." It does not say "does not contain any abrasves whatsoever" it probably does have fillers, however, it is possible it has more refined abrasives, that are not as harsh as others. Just a thought
 
ddang said:
I've got a good laugh reading this. That joshtpa guy is so combative...
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Certainly shows he's either very young, or never quite grew up....LOL. It's so funny to see him defending TW, reminds me of how defensive some get talking about Zaino. I love Zaino, but you won't find me E-thugging someone to death about it, and TW of all lines to defend, LOL.
 
Pennypacker said:
Do you really think all TW products are horrible? I happen to think the Platinum line is quite good. I also like their All Wheel and Tire Cleaner--replaced EO for me.
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I too have found the TW Platinum Wheel and Tire cleaner to be excellent, and much better than the new Eagle1 W&T cleaner. I had said that over and over here and most don't listen, I guess because it's a TW product...who knows. What I know is that the TW Plat. tire/wheel cleaner is an excellent effective cleaner and leaves my wheels very bright and it cleans very effectively. For the longest time the E1 was my favorite, until I tried the TW!



And by the way, I read in this thread that someone thought clay is like a sandpaper in that it scours the finish to remove contaminants. I disagree slightly with that information. Common consumer grade clay *does* pull contaminants out of the paint and it is nothing like sandpaper. If it were like sandpaper, you'd see paint transfer, and a noticable loss of gloss on the paint.



Mike
 
joshtpa said:
We are not talking about the TW paste wax. We are speaking about a completely different line of products from them. You are "assuming" that all TW products are bad because you didnt like the one you tried. You know what they say about assumptions...
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I was responding to the above post, someone asked me a question about the Platinum line.......geez, grow up would ya?
 
lambostealth said:
Certainly shows he's either very young, or never quite grew up....LOL. It's so funny to see him defending TW, reminds me of how defensive some get talking about Zaino. I love Zaino, but you won't find me E-thugging someone to death about it, and TW of all lines to defend, LOL.
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I am neither young nor immature. But I also find it funny that you are bashing a product without trying it nor witnessing it being used. You are obviously stuck in your ways that "all products from this company stink" and all products from this company are great. So I will just leave it be. But to "review" a product without trying it is absurd.:wall :wall :wall :wall
 
TigerMike said:
I too have found the TW Platinum Wheel and Tire cleaner to be excellent, and much better than the new Eagle1 W&T cleaner. I had said that over and over here and most don't listen, I guess becasue it's a TW product...who knows. What I know is that the TW Plat. tire/wheel cleaner is an excellent cleaner and leaves my wheels very bright and it cleans very effectively. For the longest time the E1 was my favorite, until I tried the TW!



And by the way, I read in this thread that someone thought clay is like a sandpaper in that it scours the finish to remove contaminants. I find that completely untrue information. Common consumer grade clay *does* pull contaminants out of the paint and it is nothing like sandpaper. If it were like sandpaper, you'd see paint transfer, and a noticle loss of gloss on the paint. The stickyness of the clay is what cleans the surface, you are no abrading away a layer of paint with clay!



Mike
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Don't take this the wrong way, but have you ever heard of Extrude Honing?



They use a media EXACTLY like detailing clay to fine polish parts (i.e., an intake manifold), uniformly, and to get to parts that can't be reached by a traditional porting tool. Check it out online, you will find it very interesting. Detailing clay IS infact a *FINE* polishing media.
 
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