Tried Turtle Wax ICE Liquid Clay Bar today and have to say...

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I haved used both Meg's QD and the Special Lube (which the guy at the autobody supplier I buy from told me isn't really all that special and does nothing QD wouldn't in this application) and you can always tell where a area was clayed. Esp, on Black Paint.



Maybe marring is too strong of a term, perhaps saying the finish was "distrurbed" is more appropriate. In any case you would be looking to polish the area out afterwards.



I have no water spots on my Windows but did on that rear bumper when I tested it (from washing the car in the sun) and neither the TWLICB nor Blue Magic removed them. Point in fact I have never had any success with removing water spots on paint with anything less than polish.



If one read my initial mni review, I went over the area hit with TWLICB with Blue Magic and there wasn't anything left to clean. So in my mind it removed the contaiminants (embedded or otherwise).



I'll post back from time to time (maybe get some pic's) of when I use TWLICB on something other than reasonably well maintained paint and let you guys know the outcome.



But to be clear, I started this thread to dispel the naysayers who (without even trying it) said the stuff was garbage and wouldn't work. Which to me at least is clearly not true.
 
Like I said before, if it was made by Zaino or JW or Menzerna, people would be saying it was the 2nd coming.
 
You know joshtpa I'm thinking there is more and more truth to that. I mean it's only Clay and it will either work or not.



I can't see what the big problem is in just going out and buying some and seeing 4 yourself. Gosh it's not that expenisve.
 
Well I just came in from using TWILCB as intended (leaving the panels wet with water) and have to say the results were in-line with the manufactuer's claims. I did the front end this time minus the parts that have the Clear Bra



It leaves no marring whatsoever (under Flourescent and Halogen lighting) and the paint is smooth as can be. One could go to LSP if there wasn't any need to polish and swirls out (which I have to do).



I suspect it has some fillers in it as it did hide some wash swirls (mine are halograms though) and the finish does not look flat and lifeless (in looks almost as if there was some type of LSP on it).



I suppose there will be an top end to this product, maybe a badly neglected paint job or one that has never been clayed and has been on the road for years. But then I think if you worked it long enough you still could get the desired results.



I'm gonna grab another bottle or two for a stash in case it doesn't sell well and stores stop stocking it. Which would be a shame IMHO because the product does meet the claims it makes.



MorBiD
 
Thanks for the review MorBid...seems like a interesting product....As seen in the last year or two...car care products have been advancing with new technology..mainly to keep up with the Jones to gain market share...



polymers have come a long ways since yester year since new technology and better grades of chemicals have to come into play...as seen with Zaino...Optimum...Duragloss..Meg's ..Jeff Wekstatts...



This Clay product may not be as bad as some think...who knows what will come along in the years to come...



thanks MorBid



Al
 
Morbid,

I too did my whole truck with it today. I took the TW advice and had the same results I had on the car. It leaves the car with no contaminants at all. I think that I too am going to grab a bunch of it.

Did you find it was a little watery to work with until you get used to it. I agree about the polymer. It must have something in it, because the car gives off a nice shine when finished.
 
joshtpa:



Yeah it's a bit runny, but a little on each panel loads up that big foam applicator they give you nicely. I don't apply it to the applicator but to the panels then work it in. Just finished polishing out that front end then I laid some glaze and sealant down. I'm very satisfied.



Al:



Thanks for the kind words (finally not another skeptic). I couldn't agree with you more on those statements.



I think a lot of companies are seeing the success Meguairs and a few others are having with Prosumer products and can see the market potential.



Which is good for everyone cause there will be more competition that will lead to better products at a cheaper cost.
 
I was planning to try the TW Liquid Clay this weekend ... the instructions say to use it as a wash. Would y'all recommend that, or should I use a standard soap wash first?
 
I used soap wash first. THen I followed the directions and used it on wet panels. It worked like a charm. Car is very smooth when finished.
 
joshtpa said:
I used soap wash first. THen I followed the directions and used it on wet panels. It worked like a charm. Car is very smooth when finished.
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Okay ... cool. I was just being lazy. :chuckle:
 
MorBid said:
Yeah that's what I did. I don't see where it says the stuff was supposed to replace car soap.
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Oh, I thought the instructions said something like rinse your car, apply the Liquid Clay, re-rinse, then wax. I just assumed that since they didn't say to apply to a clean car first, that you could wash with it. Oh well. Better safe than sorry.
 
hmm, I seen this for the first time a couple weeks ago at AutoZone, I laughed as I put it back on the shelf. If I was in a squeeze and badly needed clay but couldn't find a bar, maybe I'd give it a shot but beyond that, I'll stick to the clay bar.
 
rkf76 said:
hmm, I seen this for the first time a couple weeks ago at AutoZone, I laughed as I put it back on the shelf. If I was in a squeeze and badly needed clay but couldn't find a bar, maybe I'd give it a shot but beyond that, I'll stick to the clay bar.
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If it was made by Zaino or someone else, would you have laughed? Of course not. Or if CS or Optiseal was made by TW would you have every tried it? Of course not. Try not to be part of a flock and judge things for yourself.
 
It definitely sounds like a decent product, and I love products that go against the norm... but I'm going to play a little devil's advocate here:



What would be the advantage to use this over clay? The price is about the same..maybe a couple bucks more the Clay Magic.



Is it significantly easier? Faster? Better? Would the bottle last longer than a bar of clay?
 
joshtpa said:
If it was made by Zaino or someone else, would you have laughed? Of course not. Or if CS or Optiseal was made by TW would you have every tried it? Of course not. Try not to be part of a flock and judge things for yourself.
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But I am part of the flock that has been unimpressed with TW products for as long as I can remember. With the exception of TW Platinum Ultra Gloss detailer which I use regularly.



It took me being in a pinch to stumble upon that product and now it's the main one I look for when shopping for OTC detailer, is it possible for the same to happen with this liquid clay stuff? I guess it's possible. Maybe one day when I need to buy more clay I'll give it a shot, who knows.
 
TW spends more in R&D then every company out there. Sure we have all been unimpressed with their products. But sometimes you have to go out on the limb because that is where the fruit is.
 
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