Tips applying Blackfire Sealant

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d.manning

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The Blackfire Wet Diamond I ordered will be here tomorrow {Thursday}and i was just wondering is there any pointers the experts here could give about applying this product to a 02 Buick century? That i have already compounded and polished?Also was there a discount i could have gotten for being a forum member?:D
 
I recently used Blackfire WD for the first time. The learning curve takes about 30 seconds!

Very easy to use... easy on, easy off.

Having the car polished will definitely be a plus, but not absolutely necessary...

If applying by hand... use long slightly overlapping strokes from front to back, starting with the top and working your way down. (Hood, trunk, doors, fenders, etc.)

I let it cure for about 40 minutes, then wiped off by hand with a soft MF.

After wiping, I noticed no streaks , no dust. I was very pleased with the results. I added a 2nd coat the next day. Even slicker, deeper and wetter!

Like most sealants, I applied it very thin. Seemed to work well.:thumbup:
 
So there`s no working it in like you do when using a paste wax,Right?
Hell! Even i can do that! Can`t wait to see what this stuff can do to this revitalized paint job.:cool:
 
d.manning said:
So there`s no working it in like you do when using a paste wax,Right?
Hell! Even i can do that! Can`t wait to see what this stuff can do to this revitalized paint job.:cool:
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That's correct. Just wipe on, let dry, wipe off. No rubbing or working in is required.

Be sure to post some pics!
 
It works great but it has a base that is not easily cleaned with soap and water.

You will not be able to get the pad completely clean of the Blackfire Wet Diamond.

Set aside a pad that you will only use for Blackfire.
 
I use my PC and a red LC pad to ensure that I apply the product evenly and thin. Then I switch over to a MF cloth on my PC and buff until its smooth.
 
Loggie31 said:
I use my PC and a red LC pad to ensure that I apply the product evenly and thin. Then I switch over to a MF cloth on my PC and buff until its smooth.
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I often use that same method. Do you mean you use a Microfiber "bonnet" or you place the MF on the vehicle and use the PC to buff off the product?
 
Keep in mind that Blackfire Wet Diamond Sealant, like other acrylic polymer sealants, is designed to be applied and removed WET. However, like you guys, my preference is too let it dry before removal, but regardless of the technique you choose, you will still get the great slickness, look, and durabilty.

The only down side of choosing to let it dry is that you must make sure it is completely dry before removal. Depending on how thin you apply it and the enviroment, this will take 15 to 30 minutes on average.

Personally, I apply to the entire car, using either my Flex3041VRG or Porter Cable 7242 with a Lake Country Concours Gold pad. 2 little drops will cover at least 1/4 the car.
 
th0001 said:
Keep in mind that Blackfire Wet Diamond Sealant, like other acrylic polymer sealants, is designed to be applied and removed WET. However, like you guys, my preference is too let it dry before removal, but regardless of the technique you choose, you will still get the great slickness, look, and durabilty.

The only down side of choosing to let it dry is that you must make sure it is completely dry before removal. Depending on how thin you apply it and the enviroment, this will take 15 to 30 minutes on average.

Personally, I apply to the entire car, using either my Flex3041VRG or Porter Cable 7242 with a Lake Country Concours Gold pad. 2 little drops will cover at least 1/4 the car.
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Todd - I've gone through almost 1/2 the bottle of BF Sealant so far and I've tried several different methods in regards to application/removal. I've been following your recommendation on 2 drops on a Gold pad and can honestly say that this product/application method is an absolute dream to work with. It almost seems like the thinner you apply it, the easier it is to remove. :notworthy: I've tried other Polycharged products and can honestly say that this one has the most user friendly characteristics of them all. Not to mention incredible durability too!!!
 
David Fermani said:
... and can honestly say that this one has the most user friendly characteristics of them all. Not to mention incredible durability too!!!
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I agree... a very nice product to use. I've been applying with a 3M black waffle pad with excellent results.

One other tip: SHAKE WELL BEFORE USING. I'm not sure if it's been mentioned in this thread, but BFWD will separate..... so shaking it to mix well is always a good idea.
 
I need to get one of these gold concours pads, I have been using an extra 3m blue waffle pad. Like Todd said a couple drops will cover a 1/4 and sometimes even a 1/3 of the car depending how big it is. I apply to the entire vehicle and remove about 5 minutes after applying. I will have to try letting it sit a little longer to see how I like it.
 
I am confused. I thought that Wet Diamond was best removed panel by panel (WOWO). Now I see that folks are allowing for a long set-up time. What's the scoop?
 
akimel said:
I am confused. I thought that Wet Diamond was best removed panel by panel (WOWO). Now I see that folks are allowing for a long set-up time. What's the scoop?
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I was under this impression as well, the bottle makes it seem like it will be difficult to remove if you dont do a panel at a time. Lately though, I have been getting more brave with it and letting it sit longer and I havent noticed any difference in how it is removed, might even be slightly easier!
 
presidential_detail said:
I was under this impression as well, the bottle makes it seem like it will be difficult to remove if you dont do a panel at a time. Lately though, I have been getting more brave with it and letting it sit longer and I havent noticed any difference in how it is removed, might even be slightly easier!
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On smaller vehicles, I usually just apply to the entire car, then wipe off.

On larger vehicles, trucks, SUV's, I'll do half, then wipe, then do the other half.
 
Luster said:
On smaller vehicles, I usually just apply to the entire car, then wipe off.

On larger vehicles, trucks, SUV's, I'll do half, then wipe, then do the other half.
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Thats what I have been doing as of late, but I am hearing of 30 minute wait times here. Is there any real benefit of this? Just curious?
 
I just finished applying wet diamond to my car. It needed full correction so the surface was well prepped and leveled.

I had not read this thread so I did my best with common sense and simple methods that worked for me before.

Gold CCS on the new PC (on loan from a friend to test) speed 4
1 pea sized drop or less for entire panels
Let it cure for 25mins and buffed off

Applied second coat right after, using the above method.

Let the second one cure for about 15minutes and buffed off.

My car in jet black and has a very deep, crisp look to it now. My biggest concern is how well it holds but from what I hear, I expect it to last for a while.

Question however, is the BF sealant solvent based? Its super thin consistency, spreads super easy etc. Just thought it might be, makes no real difference to me.
 
Street Dreams said:
Question however, is the BF sealant solvent based? Its super thin consistency, spreads super easy etc. Just thought it might be, makes no real difference to me.
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That's a good question. I know it is extremely difficult to wash out of the pad! That doesn't bother me much. I have about 4 pads dedicated to BFWD... I buy those 3M black waffle pads for applying sealants and they're only about $1 each (from "detailerguy dot com")
 
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