thinking of switching from #26 to collinite waxes

dr427 said:
I think it might be overkill, but that's just my opinion:p
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I humbly disagree. I'm a big fan of Collinite and use it on my non garaged car, but it does not come close to the pop, color or shine that P21s has. I think the Collinite will provide a solid foundation for protection and durability as well as a receptive surface while the P21s will add the "beauty" that can be reapplied every couple months.
 
So if collinite is so durable, do you guys think it can take on the ranks of Zaino and Klasse? I mean this product sounds great, I might skip buying Klasse and get this stuff instead (along with s100 :D).
 
Acura_RL said:
So if collinite is so durable, do you guys think it can take on the ranks of Zaino and Klasse? I mean this product sounds great, I might skip buying Klasse and get this stuff instead (along with s100 :D).
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Yes it can. Many in New England use it for the harsh winters. However, you have to remeber that there are no cleaning properties in Collininte unlike Klasse. You need a quality surface prep prior to the Collinite.



Hey! You should do AIO, Collinite and a S100 topper! Talk about armor for your car!
 
One report stated:



If it hadn't been for the snow and ice storm, we truly believe that they (476 & 915) would have kept up with the Zaino in terms of durability.



The same report also stated the optical qualities aren't anywhere near the P21S or Zaino.



As Spilchy indicated, it isn't going to give you that "Pop", but on light colored cars I think it does great by itself. Darks, I agree with Spilchy a S100/P21S topper might be desired.
 
Acura_RL- Big Collinite fan here, belatedly joining the thread with my $0.02. I'd wait at least a day between the 476 and the P21S, maybe do the P21S when you next wash the vehicle. Regarding durability equal to Klasse, well, I wouldn't quite say THAT. Four or five layers of SG can last me many, many months. But still, 476 lasts like no other carnauba I've ever tried and it's a one-coat deal (it really MIGHT equal one coat of SG, it'd be close). Those who are considering using it on family/friends' cars, note that they WILL be amazed by the way Collinite beads!



BTW, I barely let the 476 haze, almost a wipe-on-wipe-off method similar to what many use with P21S. VERY easy and it doesn't seem to markedly affect the 476's durability, so keep that application method in mind if you find the 476 hard to use.



I use something similar to Spilchy's AIO/476/P21S combo. A good AIO-type product is a great base for the 476. Try the 476, it's good stuff :xyxthumbs
 
I wait a couple hours and work on other parts of the car like glass or wiping down the interior. Then I run Eagle One QD over the car with a MF and apply the topper.



Some would say that is overkill, but I just like to have the wax cure and then wipe down any residue before I top it with anything.
 
Can a good glaze give the pop that the 476 lacks? Actually, I thought that glazes provided more of the depth and pop than the wax coat.
 
bcwang - Good question. I don't THINK the glaze would add much. I'd say the "problem" is with the optical clarity/purity of the Collinite. Glaze underneath it would just get its "pop" stifled by the 476 (BTW, these terms strike me as a gross exaggeration, the 476 isn't nearly that bad). Glaze on TOP of the 476 might work if you used a glaze that's OK for between-carnauba-layers (Mother's?) but then you'd have to redo it when refreshing the topper.



IMHO, if you prep the paint well and use something like AIO for a base (I like Autoglym's SRP for this), the Collinite will look mighty good, even before the P21S topper. Here, the base IS sorta acting like the glaze in your example, but with added durability. Gee, looks like I could almost argue this one from EITHER SIDE :rolleyes: Guess we're really splitting hairs here.
 
Accumulator said:
bcwang - Good question. I don't THINK the glaze would add much. I'd say the "problem" is with the optical clarity/purity of the Collinite. Glaze underneath it would just get its "pop" stifled by the 476 (BTW, these terms strike me as a gross exaggeration, the 476 isn't nearly that bad). Glaze on TOP of the 476 might work if you used a glaze that's OK for between-carnauba-layers (Mother's?) but then you'd have to redo it when refreshing the topper.



IMHO, if you prep the paint well and use something like AIO for a base (I like Autoglym's SRP for this), the Collinite will look mighty good, even before the P21S topper. Here, the base IS sorta acting like the glaze in your example, but with added durability. Gee, looks like I could almost argue this one from EITHER SIDE :rolleyes: Guess we're really splitting hairs here.
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I use Mothers Glaze with Collinite on white. You know what? I can't tell the difference! I like Mothers because of the layering over wax. Like I mentioned before along with bcwang; prep with AIO.
 
Ok, this may seem like a stupid question: Collinite is carnuba, right? What is it that makes it more durable than other carnubas? Higher concentration of carnuba? Less solvents?
 
Acura_RL said:
Ok, this may seem like a stupid question: Collinite is carnuba, right? What is it that makes it more durable than other carnubas? Higher concentration of carnuba? Less solvents?
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You know what? Call them! They are very nice and they'll be happy to help you out.
 
315-732-2282 is their phone number. Sorry no 800#. They are in New York, so East Coast business hours apply!
 
hopefully the durability holds for dark colored cars in strong sunlight as well. The whole carnauba melting off in heat thing has me a little concerned.
 
Man, I have to stop reading this thread otherwise I might go for a drive and buy some Fleetwax, making my #26 even more useless.... :rolleyes:
 
Oh! while on the Collinite bandwagon, you guys must try their insulator wax on your wheels. If your rims are super clean, put some of this stuff on and they will be super protected. It holds up to the heat really, really well. In fact read what it is about:



This heavy duty liquid wax was originally developed for use by electric power companies for protection against high voltage power failure, fires and explosions. It's primary use is on the finishes of automobiles, trucks, buses and airplanes where durability, high gloss and lasting protection are paramount. An excellent choice for fleet applications and very easy to use--requires minimum rubbing or buffing. Clear coat safe.



I buy from a place that has all Collinite on sale. Real nice guys who e-mail you personally. Plus you can get an extra 10% off your first order! (Just look at the bottom of the home page for that)

http://www.autofanatics.com/collinite1.html



If you guys go there, please tell them Seth sent you ;)



Sorry to plug, but Collinite is hard to find. Plus you'll save a few buck here.
 
My Malco supplier started carrying 845 last month. I am trying it on dealer cars , to test the beading, after sitting out on the lots baking daily for weeks. Will post my opinion later.
 
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