The "Truth"

I do an IPA wipe down after every section pass when Im cutting to ensure Im getting the desired true results Im looking for.



I rarely ever use a rotary these days and have not noticed much, if any filling with a d/a or this Makita BO6040...
 
Thomas Dekany said:
did you do the experiment I did and you had no holograms coming back?



That's correct, never anything from D300, a week later, two weeks later, a month later, etc. Maybe try a new technique if you aren't getting the results others are getting with D300?



I'm sure you remember this car I posted in the 3D section when I used both UNO AC and D300 on the same car. Look at the difference. Zero holograms, zero swirls came back, and I washed it again over a month later after these pics.



http://www.autopia.org/forum/3d-hig...o-v4-hd-polish-hd-speed-review-pic-heavy.html
 
Barry Theal said:
I have expeirenced first hand the fillers in D300. I personally feel all products fill to a degree, I think its up to the tech to fully understand there polishing goals. An educated detailer with expeirence under there belt will notice the oils in compounds lubricating the surface. It just apart of the process. Thats why many professionals use alternative wipedown methods other then quick detailers to remove the polishing film left behind.



Garry looking foward to the video by the way! :2thumbs:



Are these "fillers" or just the normal oils in every polish/compound you're speaking of? Like you said, all of them fill to a certain degree, but not all are intended to "fill" pre se, since you should always wipe away any remaining oils/residue anyway.
 
Garry Dean said:
I do an IPA wipe down after every section pass when Im cutting to ensure Im getting the desired true results Im looking for.



I rarely ever use a rotary these days and have not noticed much, if any filling with a d/a or this Makita BO6040...



I agree, I rarely reach for my Makita 9227 anymore. While a rotary will almost always leave behind some holograms, I haven't had that problem with a DA. I think proper technique goes a long way in avoiding this also.
 
Rob the wizard and I chatted a while back, great guy BTW and he's truely the BO6040 expert! If anybody wants to know what I want for Christmas..hint hint! Seriously, next polisher I buy will be the Makita. Ok wise guy, see your hand up - I know, but JB you already have two PC's, a Cyclo and a DeWalt rotary...wanna know somethin? the one that dies with the most toys -wins!
 
JuneBug said:
Rob the wizard and I chatted a while back, great guy BTW and he's truely the BO6040 expert! If anybody wants to know what I want for Christmas..hint hint! Seriously, next polisher I buy will be the Makita. Ok wise guy, see your hand up - I know, but JB you already have two PC's, a Cyclo and a DeWalt rotary...wanna know somethin? the one that dies with the most toys -wins!



Who do you think loaned this one to me...?
 
Finally up off the floor and my heart restarted!

Checked the Makita out on their site, then to Fastnel, since they have a store here and WOW!

Anyone who buys one had better be able to use it 5 days a week, 52 weeks a year.

Their price----$472.00!!

I realize that there are those who can justify that expense since they do so many cars.

Me, I am retired, I just play and it's a bit pricey for me to use a dozen times a year or so.

Grumpy
 
2 griots, 2 HD, 1 pcxp, flex 3401, flex rotary. :D



JuneBug said:
Rob the wizard and I chatted a while back, great guy BTW and he's truely the BO6040 expert! If anybody wants to know what I want for Christmas..hint hint! Seriously, next polisher I buy will be the Makita. Ok wise guy, see your hand up - I know, but JB you already have two PC's, a Cyclo and a DeWalt rotary...wanna know somethin? the one that dies with the most toys -wins!
 
Ron Ketcham said:
Finally up off the floor and my heart restarted!

Checked the Makita out on their site, then to Fastnel, since they have a store here and WOW!

Anyone who buys one had better be able to use it 5 days a week, 52 weeks a year.

Their price----$472.00!!

I realize that there are those who can justify that expense since they do so many cars.

Me, I am retired, I just play and it's a bit pricey for me to use a dozen times a year or so.

Grumpy



Its $285 shipped on Amazon.
 
I thought that there would be someone selling the unit as less than the price I found, just no need for one.

My Bosch does have power, the speed control, easy to use and since I only use it once or twice a month, not going to sell the farm to get this very nice polisher.

Grumpy
 
I'm still holding out for the Rupes Bigfoot (whenever KB gets them in), but it's good to know the Makita is another effective choice. Looking forward to the video comparison!
 
C. Charles Hahn said:
I'm still holding out for the Rupes Bigfoot (whenever KB gets them in), but it's good to know the Makita is another effective choice. Looking forward to the video comparison!



Charlie, I will be buying the Rupes as well. No question about it.
 
Very interesting thread! I would expect no less from Garry!



I'd be on the Makita like white on rice if I needed another polisher. They look like a very strudy unit. Maybe I'll wait for Barry to spend some money 1st seeing that he's a packrat.



As far as D300 or ANY other polishing compound for that matter......it can and will fill. People can swear up and down that it doesn't but it can. It's the nature of the beast. I think D300 is an awsome product, really like using it and have used it alot. But remember, it's a compound and compounds have heavy abrasives and there can be a need to refine what is left on the finish that can be seen, but what can't as well. Pad and abrasive marring is something that is super faint and easily masked. What you see isn't always what you get/have.
 
Just have your onr bucket next to you while your polishing and wipe off the residue after your done polishing the section with that. Follow up with ipa/eraser if your doing a coating. D300 like most polishes "can" fill/hide but if your removing the oils as you go along you won't need to worry about that :)
 
David Fermani said:
Perfections: do you usually go from D300 to Opti-Coat/Guard without any refining step? If so, what pad and color car?



I have yet to see this LSP ready finish with D300 that some talk about...
 
Garry: You can't handle the truth! Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom! You weep for Santiago and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives! You don't want the truth, because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall! You need me on that wall! We use words like "honor", "code", "loyalty". We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline! I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it! I would rather you just said "Thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!

"You want the truth. "
 
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