The Rupes BIGFOOT LHR 21E is heading to the USA!!!

CEE DOG said:
...As for the towel and pad analogy I would disagree that it's a fair comparison. What I am saying is the edge of the pad is not more contaminated in the manner theoretically suggested. If it was we would find a different end result which I do not see. Perhaps it is due to a completely different technique, tools, etc. but I don't see it. Rather it seems all the particles including polish and paint are cut to a size that does not affect the finish and are evenly pressed into the pad pores or dust off away from the surface. As long as it's made clean after each section there isn't an issue and the finish can be flawless in the real world regardless of theory.



Thank you,



Corey
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It is typical to see the edge of a buffing pad become more laden with particulate. Unless you're throwing some tilt on the pad like you might commonly do using a rotary polisher. Okay, maybe a lot of tilt.



Having too much fun while you buff?!? Are you "popping" one-way buffing pad "wheelies", and the actual "trailing edge" of your pad is underneath the pad face? :clap2: I'm not sure what was lost in the translation. :nixweiss
 
Ahhhh, no I see what your saying. Completely misunderstood definition of edge. Certainly the outer vs inner polishing surface of the pad receives varying amount of use and abuse and cuts more of the paint than the latter.
 
Accumulator said:
Kevin Brown- Your best guess...how would those flared 3" pads work out on the GG 3" pneumatic RO
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I'm wondering if that machine deals with "taller" pads all that well.

I can't recall the stroke on that machine, maybe 3/16" or 1/4" total?



Can you confirm?



These pads seem to be less pliable, more rigid than the typical pad. Don't read that as meaning they'll scour, but that they are slower to respond to pressure changes. In other words, the foam used on the four different pads respond more like memory foam than a typical pad.



Could just be a bias or initial impression on my part, so I'll "investigate" today to confirm.
 
Kevin Brown said:
I'm wondering if that machine deals with "taller" pads all that well.

I can't recall the stroke on that machine, maybe 3/16" or 1/4" total?



Can you confirm?
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I'll try to determine the stroke next time I'm out in the shop messing around with it.



I somehow suspect that those pads might be best left for machines like the Rupes, especially given that "slower response time" ... :think:
 
I loved reading page nine and ten with kevin's post about abraded paint residue

I own the Metabo SXE400 and for what I paid, I think it's a marvelous little machine with a good amount of grunt even with just 3mm orbit throw



finishes fantastic with any pad, corrects better than a pneumatic rotary and possibly even a makita 9227 rotary with a small pad on it. RO with high power, medium to large throw, high speed - 4,000 to 13,000 or more and a stiff plate is a weapon



can't jewel paint like a rotary though

the best way to clean pads after each section is compressed air.
 
Any updates on the Rupes? Does the 21 finish down well enough or do you need a 15? Does it bog down with about 20lbs. of pressure?
 
Kevin Brown said:
Having too much fun while you buff?!? Are you "popping" one-way buffing pad "wheelies", and the actual "trailing edge" of your pad is underneath the pad face? :clap2: I'm not sure what was lost in the translation. :nixweiss
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Whats wrong with that? :lol1: I loved this group of wording Kevn. Is this what you mean by wheelies?:chuckle:



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Legacy99 said:
Any updates on the Rupes? Does the 21 finish down well enough or do you need a 15? Does it bog down with about 20lbs. of pressure?
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I'm absolutely amazed by this machine, and I think it may have actually won over one of my "rotary-only" friends after just one use. This machine is everything people are claiming it to be.
 
mikenap said:
I'm absolutely amazed by this machine, and I think it may have actually won over one of my "rotary-only" friends after just one use. This machine is everything people are claiming it to be.
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Some in the UK say it lacks power and will bog down under medium pressure.
 
Legacy99 said:
Some in the UK say it lacks power and will bog down under medium pressure.
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Since the BP touches the shroud, I could see that being an issue but with the KB washer installed, it's a lot harder to bog down.
 
Legacy99 said:
Some in the UK say it lacks power and will bog down under medium pressure.
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Read the same thread on DW, most of the guys who said this think the Flex 3401 is a BETTER machine........................never underestimate the bias of a ill-informed opinion. In addition some even said the cost was prohibitive, wonder what they paid for their Flex 3401 as I remember paying $ 369.00 plus shipping over THREE years ago for mine.
 
Yeah, I paid about the same for the Flex too Bob, and then discovered I DIDN"T like it even though for that amount of $$ I sure as hell tried. I ended up trading it to Mr. Helme for his Cyclo.
 
As I have mentioned on fb , I got a chance to wrap my hands around a LHR 21E this weekend thanks to Chris Dasher ( PorscheGuy 997 ). IMO this machine outperformed the Flex 3401 with which I have had limited experience. The Rupes was extremely smooth and fairly quiet. I found plenty of power from the 3 setting and on up.It was easy to handle and took very little effort to go in any desired direction.The front of the machine didn't heat up like the Flex does on the nose where I rested my hand. Next on my list is to try the smaller 15 model later this week. If it performs anything like it's big brother, It will be hard to decide between the two.
 
Legacy99 said:
AG price today on the 3401 is $329.00.
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For the amount of time the Rupes 21 saves me, I would gladly pay more.



The Rupes worked great in every application (cutting to finishing) and is very easy to handle. The only problem is that I want a 3" Rupes now...



Paul Sparks said:
As I have mentioned on fb , I got a chance to wrap my hands around a LHR 21E this weekend thanks to Chris Dasher ( PorscheGuy997 ). IMO this machine outperformed the Flex 3401 with which I have had limited experience. The Rupes was extremely smooth and fairly quiet. I found plenty of power from the 3 setting and on up.It was easy to handle and took very little effort to go in any desired direction.The front of the machine didn't heat up like the Flex does on the nose where I rested my hand. Next on my list is to try the smaller 15 model later this week. If it performs anything like it's big brother, It will be hard to decide between the two.
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Thanks for making it down this weekend and helping out so much! I'll buy you a drink in Detroit...
 
PorscheGuy997 said:
For the amount of time the Rupes 21 saves me, I would gladly pay more.
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Bingo. When you really look at it, the Rupes 15 is only $20 more than a Flex, and the Rupes 21 is only $70 more, and that difference pays for itself VERY quickly.



I haven't sold my 3401 yet, but I might as well since it's just sitting in a bag on the shelf and has been for over a year now. Almost don't even need the Dynabrade anymore, either.
 
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