Swissol Concorso on solid black 350Z + red F430 (no 56K)

[imported_DieselMDX]

wow what a family of cars!

 

[CBlakeNS]

Very nice work, very nice cars as well.

 

[imported_Bence]

Yep, I know what range is...



But distortion sound almost always negative to me... that's why I think of rather "enhancement" when I try to describe it.

 

[beastie]

Both are very impressive work, especially the Z.

 

[onelazydawg]

I always found most Swissol products to look and mimic Zymols products, even in color and smell. Remember the owner of Swissol use to be a distributor of Zymol products. Seems Zymol did not like this also and took legal action.

 

[3fiddyz]

I always found most Swissol products to look and mimic Zymols products, even in color and smell. Remember the owner of Swissol use to be a distributor of Zymol products. Seems Zymol did not like this also and took legal action.

Swissol started making waxes back in the 1920s. Zymol was founded in the 1980s, so all the legal issues aside, if anything Zymol products are similar to Swissol's



i think i read somewhere Swissol sold their formula to Zymol, something like that

 

[imported_ChrisH]

Looks fantastic Sam,



I got a few coats of Souveran on Dads QP this weekend.

 

[maxi]

350z best black ihave ever seen iused zymol concourse but i think swissol is better



than zymol ..... how you can apply swissol concourse by foam applicatior ...its wax very soft .... if you have zymol you can do that .



yes same my proplem with p21 ..implify the small orang peel and i think is not very frindly wax in paint.

 

[Scottwax]

Just amazing! The paint on both looks very liquid but especially on the Z. :bow



I may have to add another high end wax to go along with Souveran since I have a few customers willing to pay an upcharge for high end carnaubas.

 

[3fiddyz]

..... how you can apply swissol concourse by foam applicatior ...its wax very soft .... if you have zymol you can do that .

swissol say to use your hands but thats a bit too ott for me. I used a foam applictaor, actually the foam applicator off a new P21S tub, and it went off smooth enough

 

[3fiddyz]

my mate today prep'd our metallic black 996 TT S, and then we applied two layers of Z2-Pro



wheeled the car out and remembered why i liked Zaino so much - clarity is off the charts



decided to layer Z2-Pro because it is one of the daily drivers, and wanted max durability under the carnauba LSP



ill be applying the Swissol Concorso next wash, these pics will make for a great comparo to see what the Concorso does with the clarity of reflections. Looking at my 350Z and the Porsche back to back today it is very evident the Z2-Pro lacks the wetness of the Concorso. Its a very different look imo, the Z2-Pro in comparison looks a little cold, a bit too clinical, whereas the Concorso looks warms - if that makes sense. Speaking of the Concorso, my 350z doesnt get as dusty anymore, had it parked outside all day sunday and been driving it all week and its still clean, i cant believe it - does carnauba have some sort of anti-static properties?



this is my mate's handy work straight off the buff - no wax!

after Z2-Pro + OCW on wheels (worked so well my OCW has assumed the role of wheel detailer)

 

[maxi]

very nice work in 996 and ithink when you waxing aftar wash become more depth more refliction like 350z .



did you use swissol mild cleaning by hand ?



do think swissol strong clean leave any hazing and must goint to more light cleaning like mild +prewax

 

[3fiddyz]

the 996 hasnt had any swissol at all



my mate used Menzerna FF on a green pad, then switched to a white pad to finish



gave it a quick wash with MF clothes and layered 2 coats Z2-Pro



i will just apply the Concorso over the top next wash, i wont use the Swissol cleaner - not the best process for this wax, but on this car id prefer more Zaino on the paint for max protection than a carnauba



yeah you do need to step down the Swissol cleaners. The medium and strong contain abbrassives, and should be applied with an RO at least. The light contains no abbrassives, just chemical cleaner, so its a wipe on/wipe off product by hand



i probably wouldnt use the strong, there are better abbrassive polishes out there, Menzerna's range for one

 

[maxi]

we waiting for new picture 996 after wash and wax by swissol



if i apply swissol meduim cleaner fluid by hand ...its give me good result?



what carshampoo you will use?

 

[3fiddyz]

i dont think it would work as good as using an RO



its feels a bit grippy, might be alot of hard work and tiring to do by hand



in fact it looks very similar to Menzerna Final Finish, same color and texture, but tends to smear across the panel rather than buff away cleanly



you would only use the swissol medium cleaner if you have light swirl marks. I dont see the point of using it though to remove swirls, just use a much cheaper abbrassive polish instead. Then use the swissol light fluid cleaner and apply the wax. Much easier imo



re wash, i use either the Zaino wash or Meguairs soft wash - whichever i reach for in the cupboard



we have very strict water restrictions in Aus now, soon we wont be able to use a home high pressure washer, only use water to clean the windscreen. So ill have to start using the Quick and Easy water saving wash, or go to the local machine car wash at night and wash the car using their recycled water

 

[maxi]

The P21S i was using on the 350Z prior really amplified the orange peel and often i would get hazing on my top panels :think:





i saw this proplem when i applyed p21s in maxima gold ....i saw some ..like a salt over the paint ....im not happy even if p21s like mirror



also this proplem come when i used QD pinnacle crestyl mist in other part of car

always im looking for more safe product for my cars.



i will never use any QD .

 

[imported_Bence]

The Z2P Porsche looks soulless next to the Concorso Z.

 

[SilverLexus]

I agree 100% with this statement. While Souveran is just unreal on black, I think that some sealants(Blackfire comes to mind for me) will allow the reflections to be sharper from farther away. I call this effect "optical range".

I think what some are confusing here is optical clarity. Sealants are more clear generally than a Swissol or Souveran; using a carnauba is like putting a yellow film on a clear window. You might like the results but you are changing the optical clarity.



I think wetness has a lot to do with several factors - original paint, prep, and the solvent content in any carnauba that is used.

 

[lbls1]

Sorry to disagree, but that is much further from the fact of a refined carnauba. Good carnaubas, and for this I will include Souveran, on average as I've observed have exhibited much greater range and clarity than many of the sealants that I've compared finishes with.



I am not sure how the "yellowing" myth with carnaubas got started, but at any rate one will only need to observe several recently done surfaces with some very good carnaubas, especially in black (which will reveal everything good and bad). A good carnauba finish will never reveal any traces of yellowing. Finishes (including sealants) will sometimes get dull or cloudy over extended periods (over a year) if they are not properly maintained. Even with some neglected surfaces in using excellent wax, I've yet to see any signs of yellowing.



Residue or discoloration, on the other hand, will be a direct indication of product quality. I have observed with very cheap waxes (sold in half gallon and gallon sizes in any roadside supply store) how finishes exhibit a lot of haze and dullness in comparision to well prepared surfaces. That could be the cause of the bad "rep" that seems to cloud opinions on carnaubas.



That's one of my main reasons in saying that you can never accept other opinions concerning products without trying them out and comparing results.

 

[Heikes]

I gotta tell you that you and your Dad have the sickest stable ever!!! I can't wait to see that Lambo.