Street Dreams Detail - Porsche 997 Turbo Meteor Gray

thanks for the thread. wow another $200 for matching? and its not really color matching, its more like "lets make all the other panels in the same condition so it all looks the same matching".



i dont think i will be paying extra for that. im seriously low in cash already and $500 is ALOT for me. im a student with a part time job paid $6.75/hr for heavens sake!;) i think i can live with a perfect color match but without the same fadness. heck i liek my hood extra shinny, its my favorite part of the car and its the only part i quick wax every other week.
 
The labor rate of shops vary, depends on location, etc.

Get three estimates.

All replacements hoods are done with a black e-coat out of the box, this must not be sanded to bare metal, if so, then an acid etch primer must be applied. (see series of photos, fender having the various stages of paint film applied on the site, www.autoint.com)

The match is done by a couple of ways, one by weight of solids or computer. The computer is at the PBE store, the shop takes your fuel door in and the computer matches it, the computer mixes a pint or whatever of the base coat to match.

The match may be off if the painter uses incorrect air pressure or application techniques,(pattern of spray).

To clear this up, A, the paint does not come from the vehicle manufacturer, B, replacement panels do not come color matched painted. Would be impossible, as at the assembly plants paint area they may have up to 4 color varations of a particular color during a production run.

Ketch
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Don't know if this will help you, but the I-CAR CarStar here in KC had to estimate the cost of repairing all of the small dents, dings and scratches that my wife's 1990 Camry had after it was considered totalled by the insurance company. This doesn't include the damage incurred by the actual crash that put the car there.... just the small dings and scratches from 11 years of use. They then subtracted that amount from the retail value to cut us a check for the car.



If I remember correctly... this is what they saw:

- 2 shallow lemon-sized dents (one on front panel, one on back panel)

- large, football-sized dent with cracked paint in driver's door

- 7" long key scratch, including botched owner attempt to wet sand repair ;)



The total they came to with body work and paint matching (silver) was $700. Hope this helps... but like others have said: get a couple estimates.



Good luck and let us know how it comes out.
 
graeme, thanks for the additional info:up i plan to get an estimate form 3 differnt shops. first an I-Car place, second that honda dealer recommended place, and finally a very reputable (but expensive) paint shop that does paintworks for import show cars



ill keep everyong up dated as it goes...
 
Ng. here's my experience...



Ok here in Vegas, I found out that the Lexus, Jaguar and MBenz Dealer all bring their cars for body repair and painting to one shop. I always wanted to get my Lexus hood repainted due to stonechips and minor scratches so I brought it last week just to check the cost. I was given a quote of $376 ( my hood doesn't have any dent) . I thought the price was cheap. The only thing is they are not listed as an I-Car certified when I checked the site. However, when I went there, I saw a lot of exotic cars including Porsches, MBenz and Jags and they all look good. It looks like a big time operation since they have several buildings in the lot where they do body repair in one and painting in another.



Anyway, I also went to an I-Car certified place (didn't know it then) who worked on my Honda when it was in an accident. They were recommended by my insurance company at that time and I was happy with their previous work. I was told this time that they will have to blend/finish the left and right fenders of my Lexus and the costs is about $650-$700. I did tell the appraiser that if that's the case I would have the small ding (paint came off) repaired on one of the fenders. Anyway, I am looking at the estimate sheet now and the left ( where the ding is ) says refinish and the right fender says blend. I don't know exatly what the difference between the two but I would guess refinish meant to repaint the panel.



After this visit, I called the non-Icar certified place and asked about the need to blend the fenders. They told me that the finish is good still ( 3 years old) and since my paint is black and non-metallic, I don't really need it. What do you think Ron?
 
I'm not Ron so I can't answer for the rest of it but here's his opinion on blending, found on the first page of this thread.

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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Ron Ketcham [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>There are shops that will tell you they can blend in on a high solid clear.

Yes, it can be done, but you will see in a short time, at most in most cases a year, exactly where the blend line is.

I must have looked at 20 vehicles during my last trip where I was asked to diagnois what the problem was on vehicles.

In all the cases, the concern was the result of a shop attempting to blend on OEM high solid clears.


Ketch

:eek: [/b]</blockquote>
 
It will look fine for a few months, but as time progresses, the blended area will show and no polishing etc will make it right.



That is the facts.



I know some shops will tell you different, but they are attempting to get work by quoting a lesser price, since it takes more material (very expensive) to do a full panel than a small blend.



To blend is easy, quick, down and dirty.



To refinish a panel is work, more material etc.



Ketch:eek:
 
Ron,



I guess my question didn't come out clear. One shop says that I could get away with just painting the hood and the other says I would need to paint the hood and blend the left and right fenders. The first one says that since my paint is till ok and the car is black and non-metallic, then I do not have to do anything to the fenders. What do you think of this?



BTW, my 3 year old paint seems fine but I just want to get the hood painted due to stone chips and minor scratches.
 
Didn't understand, thought that all you wished to have refinished was the hood.



What are they saying, they are going to "blend" the fenders where you have nicks?



You work it out, you got the basic knowledge, have done what you feel is the right process.



Ketch:up
 
Son's Accord came out beautiful! But there was one spot on the mirror (that I had tried to fix myself) that wasn't really quite right. The guy took one look and said he can't let the car go out like that, so it's being repainted right now and should be ready by 3 PM. I hope I don't miss the UPS guy! My Blackfire is on its way...



I am very pleased with the outcome of the repair, but I just don't understand quality control. It seems like just about any time I do ANYTHING (not just car repair), it just isn't right the first time! Why is that? How hard is it to have things inspected properly? Did they think that I would just miss it? It was fairly minor, but it should have been perfect, the first time. Maybe if there were money penalties for having to recorrect a problem that should not have passed inspection....



Anyways, the clearcoat looks like it has just been Zaino'd. I guess I will have to wait the 30 days before resealing it but it looks great as is.



H
 
lets get some pics for the after shots...please...:D i hear u about quality control....i always assumed that after all the work is done that their would be a guy who's job it is to go over every completed car...with a fresh set of eyes...but i think that kind of shop is far and few between...i think after all the big work is done they get a flunky do just go over it quickly with some oily Qd'er...to cover it all up....and most people just concentrate on the area that was busted up...not the whole car.....most places(not all) will take the chance because most people(not autopians) arent gonna say anything if the job is 80% done right....they'll take it....these are the same people with bird crap on their hood for a month....so if he gets away with it then he does...if u say something than he says...no problem just leave it a litttle longer....no loss for them....anyway....cant wait for your Bf pics...good luck dood...:up
 
Full correction 2 day detail. An abridged writeup..

After prep finish under halogens

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After correction

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50/50

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After all the correction I rinsed the car down to remove the dusting

Leveled paint beading, no LSP ... hmm I could just call it a day right now :giggle:

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Interior received full detail as well, not in bad shape to begin with

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Engine cleaned and dressed

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Menzerna powerlock having quality bonding time

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Finished

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Cowl dressed for matte finish

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It was raining a bit but grabbed a few shots outside before the final wipedown

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Total time: 20hrs
 
What a stunning car! If I could get any 997 in the world, it would be one just like that. Perfect color combo, proper manual transmission, and flawless paint.

Great work!
 
bigpoppa said:
What a stunning car! If I could get any 997 in the world, it would be one just like that. Perfect color combo, proper manual transmission, and flawless paint.
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I agree. The Meteor grey always looks good on the classic lines of the 911. It turns heads everywhere. I love the way the Menzerna makes it shine. Dave, are you willing to say its the best LSP for that particular color?
-Joe D
 
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