Sonus SwirlBusterâ„¢

DavidB said:
It's an excellent choice! You will find that it goes on and comes off much easier after using SBP.



Great - so should I do the three rounds of SBP first, before I apply the NXT? (for maximum effect)



Also - with the SB pad I already have - what speed on the PC will work best with the new SBP?



Many thanks,



Chris.
 
My suggestion is do it once and see how it looks. Be sure to apply the polish with a good amount of pressure on the pad. Run the PC at 5.5.



db
 
I apologise if I missed it, but, what is the bottle's size (ml/oz)?



Also, wouldn't NXT's cleaners remove some/all of the SBP's fillers?



Oh, one more thing. Is the defect removal the same as the SFX2 polish?
 
Alfisti said:
I apologise if I missed it, but, what is the bottle's size (ml/oz)?



Also, wouldn't NXT's cleaners remove some/all of the SBP's fillers?



Oh, one more thing. Is the defect removal the same as the SFX2 polish?





It is a 16 oz. bottle.



Yes, NXT's cleaners probably do remove so of the fillers, but I did not notice any degrading of finish appearance after applying NXT.



SBP is based on the SFX-2 polish formula. However, the polish strength is reduced by 17% by the acrylic additives. The result is a polish that polishes longer (much longer) without drying out on the pad. The acrylic turned out to be a great lubricant.
 
DB,



Is there a curing time for the acrylic fillers? That is, is it beneficial to wait a day before applying a sealant or wax, giving the fillers time to bond to the paint?



Tort
 
DavidB



im not sure if this has been ask....

But what do you compare your new polish to?, for example im familuar with poorboys ssr line 1,2,2.5,3 or menzerna line pg,ip,fp or meguiars 80, 83, etc..

now please correct me what r the benefits to this polish then others?

is this a multi step in one bottle? i sometime find multi steps in one bottle dont have the cut as individual bottles(three step)

Is your polish more a small to mild cut level or or is aggresive or depending on pad?

im tring to determine where this will fit in my arsenal of products?please add anything if i missed a topic....

tia David
 
TortoiseAWD said:
DB,



Is there a curing time for the acrylic fillers? That is, is it beneficial to wait a day before applying a sealant or wax, giving the fillers time to bond to the paint?



Tort



Scott,



Good question. Let me try to be as clear as possible.



SBP was created by accident. I was testing pad designs (prototypes for the SB pad) and accidentally mixed two products on the pad. The product I put on the pad first was a new spray sealant one of my chemists sent me... I followed with SFX-2. The result was amazing, but when I switched to a fresh pad I could not duplicate the result. I was baffled until I realized what I had done.



As you may know, over the years a number of acrylic resin products have come and gone. The reason they are not popular is because they are a MF to wipe off in their pure form. That's why most acrylic resin products are cleaner/waxes, like AIO. Plus, until about 10 years ago, chemists had not resolved the yellowing problem of acrylic resins caused by UVA. That problem is now gone.



Anyway, I started playing with acrylic resins in the SFX polishes. At first I could not keep a resin emulsion suspended. When we changed the SFX polish formula, that all changed. The new SFX polishes are water-based, with less than 10% solvent content. The acrylic resin we use is also a water-based product. Mixing problem solved.



The next problem that cam up was a tacky surface after polishing. We determined that the resin was not curing. The normal catalyst for the resin is air, but something in our mix was preventing air from getting to the resin molecule. We added a second ingredient that is our "secret sauce". I won't even mention what kind of chemical is it. What it does is cause the acrylic to rapidly cure with friction.



Need to continue this later... small problem in the warehouse.... db
 
Should I avoid using Swirlbuster polish while I'm waiting for a fresh repaint to outgas? I'm about 2.5 months out, still trying to hold off on wax and such.
 
velobard said:
Should I avoid using Swirlbuster polish while I'm waiting for a fresh repaint to outgas? I'm about 2.5 months out, still trying to hold off on wax and such.
velobard,



Since SB contains acrylic resins that will act as a sealant, yeah, you should probably wait until you're satisfied that your new paint is cured before using it.



Tort
 
It cures very fast if applied by machine. If using the SBFP, apply at 5.5 with a PC using enough pressure to compress the pad at least 25% but not more than 50%. It is very important that the polish be "worked". The paint surface should get warm, but not excessively hot. Using a rotary, run the pad at 750-1200 RPM and compress by 20-30%. Work the polish until it runs clear, but do not run it dry. The residue is very easy to wipe off. If you want SBP to be your LSP, allow it to dry to a film.



db
 
velobard said:
Should I avoid using Swirlbuster polish while I'm waiting for a fresh repaint to outgas? I'm about 2.5 months out, still trying to hold off on wax and such.



Off gassing is done in 30 days... you are more than safe to wax.
 
Do you guys recommend that I use a polishing machine to apply this compund, or will the applicator pad generate enough heat to break it down into the proper format? I am a novice when it comes to using a machine on my car, so I would be using a dual-action polisher if needed. Thanks for your input.
 
dmxsoulja3 said:
How much of the SBP should we be putting on the swirlbusterpad/pockets before we go at a panel? First time using it



I recommend spraying the pad with 2-3 shots of detail spray first to dampen the pad.



I load the pocket up 2-3 beads of polish on the first load. No need to worry about splatter... the pocket takes care of that problem.



After polishing out on the first round, spray the pad again with 1-2 shots detail spray, and one generous bead of polish in the pocket will be enough to load it back up.



db
 
Here's a gratuitous shot(s) of my GTO with SB/Max Wax. It's not full sun, but it sure looks shiny :D



sb2.jpg




sb5.jpg




sb3.jpg
 
dmxsoulja3 said:
How bad was your swirling before? decent enough to notice? pics look great.. mine is on its way.



It would definitely have been noticeable in the trunk lid/spoiler picture. They were quite stubborn and I could not remove them with SSRs, Menzerna, OP, nor could I fill them in with RMG or #5/#7. NXT was the best at filling them but they were still noticeable. This literally removed (or hid, whichever) the swirls in one or two slow passes at high speed. Awesome stuff.
 
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