Side by side X-Kote comparison 4runner

VdubN8 said:
Flygti32:



Thanks again for more pics!



Could you do a 3-phase pic post?

1. Before treatment, but after a wash.

2. After X-Kote is completed.

and 3. After a good wax(after step #2).



Thanks





I'll work on that Monday for you. I have a car booked that day.
 
orly



How much should I be expecting to shell out to get my hands on a bottle of X-Kote? Their website says that they have a distributor in Calgary.



Are the distributors just detailers, or do they sell the actual product?
 
sneek said:
orly



How much should I be expecting to shell out to get my hands on a bottle of X-Kote? Their website says that they have a distributor in Calgary.



Are the distributors just detailers, or do they sell the actual product?





You have to become a " dealer" in order to get your hands on some X-Kote
 
lawrencea said:
You should have a booth at the Chicago Auto Show and show X-Kote to a lot more people.





X-Kote had a booth at SEMA this year are busy enough trying to keep up from that. The dealer base had doubled in the last 2 months.
 
fishbonezken said:
is X-kote the stuff where in the other thread, you applied it with your hand and looks like some whitish cream?





In the other thread that whiteish cream pic I posted is me stripping all the paint sealants and waxes off the car. The degreaser wash I use reacts with the sealants and waxes on the car creating the milky substance you saw. Once the wash results give me a clean panel I then know the surface is clean of contaminents.
 
I believe this product fills a need but to me the AFTER pics, while impressive, also look odd, almost unnatural....like it was repainted but a bad repaint. Anyone else notice that?



I wonder how it would look if the panel next to it had been properly polished and waxed?



Perhaps the Xkote panel still needs to be polished?



Anthony
 
Agreed Anthony. I looked at their website (a terrible one at that) and viewed the before and after slide show. In every picture, the defects are clearly evident in the "After" shots except on a couple bumper shots. Although glossy looking, it seemed to just cover (similar to foundation makeup that women wear) and just beneath lies all the uncorrected defects.



This would be the last product an enthusiast would use leaving it instead to volume work shops, dealerships and any shop looking to make a quick buck without properly going about utilizing proper detailing steps to rejuvenating a vehicle.



Reminds me of the Zeibart movement or those "revolutionary new product" sealants with 5 year durability claims, yada, yada, yada.



Just my opinion based on what I'm reading and viewing.
 
The 4 Runner looks good. I would like to see a vehicle with X-kote applied, which has been through a multistep buffing.



How much different is X-kote from Protech Presto, All-Shield Scrathc and Fade, Vertiglas or Poliglow?

Is there any mixing of products (hardeners or reducers) before using?



I this found video from another X-Kote dealer/detailer.
 
This is fishy at best. Note to "dealer guy" sounds like Avon / Mary Kay multi-level marketing style distribution system to me too. If the dealer base keeps "doubling" soon everyone has it, but there's no one to sell to. Be careful with your money...
 
Tasty said:
This is fishy at best. Note to "dealer guy" sounds like Avon / Mary Kay multi-level marketing style distribution system to me too. If the dealer base keeps "doubling" soon everyone has it, but there's no one to sell to. Be careful with your money...



Yes, but you buys kits. Once you're out of kits, you need to buy more...So if he's subscribed 20 business to use the product, and they do 30 cars a month with this, that's 600 kits he's selling a month.
 
Invigor said:
Yes, but you buys kits. Once you're out of kits, you need to buy more...So if he's subscribed 20 business to use the product, and they do 30 cars a month with this, that's 600 kits he's selling a month.



Doesn't matter. You can't get new business in a scheme like that at some point. Once the market is so saturated with "dealers" there is no new clientele to sell to because everybody is peddling the crap. It's like Arbonne. One of my wife's co-workers tried to recruit her into selling that stuff. It's a multi level marketing thing. I'm not saying this X-Kote is an MLM, but it sounds similar.
 
Tasty said:
Doesn't matter. You can't get new business in a scheme like that at some point. Once the market is so saturated with "dealers" there is no new clientele to sell to because everybody is peddling the crap. It's like Arbonne. One of my wife's co-workers tried to recruit her into selling that stuff. It's a multi level marketing thing. I'm not saying this X-Kote is an MLM, but it sounds similar.



You have to understand that I am the "distributor" for my area, if people want to use X-Kote they have to go through me. I decide how many dealers I want to set up I am able to control the market in my area. If it's a big auto group that does in house detailing and clean up fine. They are more concerned about there own stock and really don't have time to do retail work I can set those up all day long. I plan to have 1-2 X-Kote retail " dealer" outlets in my major cities and then 1 per every other smaller city. In total I am shooting for 20 dealers for my area.
 
edschwab1 said:
The 4 Runner looks good. I would like to see a vehicle with X-kote applied, which has been through a multistep buffing.



How much different is X-kote from Protech Presto, All-Shield Scrathc and Fade, Vertiglas or Poliglow?

Is there any mixing of products (hardeners or reducers) before using?



I this found video from another X-Kote dealer/detailer.





When I have a whole day to play with a nice black car I plan on doing this. A nice 3 stage polish then top it with X-Kote.



As for differences in the products you described above. It is totally different. There is no other product on the market right now that competes with what X-Kote is and what it does. There is mixing of X-Kote yes. It's a 2 part system, body and hardner.
 
I am just curious, if this product is hand applied and requires no buffing why is it that you have the window trim taped off?
 
LastDetail said:
I am just curious, if this product is hand applied and requires no buffing why is it that you have the window trim taped off?



When you take a rag with degreaser and drag it along a rubber seal the seal leaves your rag black right? X-Kote is a powerful product if I were to leave the seals exposed there is to high a risk of hitting the rubber and causing it to break down on my rag. If it did that, I have then contaminated my rag and would be dragging that rubber residue all over the panel I am working on. It is easier to tape everything up and eliminate that potential problem. Hope that answers your question.
 
edschwab1 said:
The 4 Runner looks good. I would like to see a vehicle with X-kote applied, which has been through a multistep buffing.



How much different is X-kote from Protech Presto, All-Shield Scrathc and Fade, Vertiglas or Poliglow?

Is there any mixing of products (hardeners or reducers) before using?



I this found video from another X-Kote dealer/detailer.

I was wondering the same thing about it being compared to Presto. Also, will the product be available to people who just want to buy the product, or can it only be applied via a distributor.



Oopps! I just noticed that this was from Feb. of 07, not 08. Sorry :( I am still curious though...
 
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