Revolutionary product review (copy and paste)

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jaybs95 said:
Wannafbody, may I ask who the reviewer is?

I will take then that you are unable to answer any questions about this "revolutionary" product, about easy of use or longevity or appearance...

"J"
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the original thread is at detailers club. I believe MGM2203 or something similar is the original poster. I also believe that Detail City's own Greg Cavi was a beta tester. Will he be called a shill as well? Since I'm reposting another persons review calling me a shill is absurd and frankly takes away from the open nature of this forum and seriously erodes this forums credibility. Also let me be clear in explaining that MYSELF, along with a couple others unleashed the Duragloss AW bandwagon that caused Autogeek and others to stock the shelves with this previously unknown product line. I'm not feeling much love for technologically advanced products:confused:
 
wannafbody said:
the original thread is at detailers club. I believe MGM2203 or something similar is the original poster. I also believe that Detail City's own Greg Cavi was a beta tester. Will he be called a shill as well? Since I'm reposting another persons review calling me a shill is absurd and frankly takes away from the open nature of this forum and seriously erodes this forums credibility.
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Wow, let's see....

MGM2003 is GBG-TL's next door freakin' neighbor. Hmmmmmmmmmmm very interesting isn't it?

If I'm not mistaken, wasn't it MGM2003 that Greg Cavi was thanking so much for sending him some Zaino to try?

And now our buddy Greg is a new product beta tester for Zaino???

I'd have to say in light of these facts brought to us by wannafbody, it's pretty clear that the shills are trying to pull one over on the forum members.
 
The Fuzz said:
It is and I fully expected you to try and steer this away from you. The thing is, he admitted to selling the products.
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Cool. Mine were Christmas gifts, and the family and neighbors loved them! I got the idea from you :)
 
The Fuzz said:
It is and I fully expected you to try and steer this away from you. The thing is, he admitted to selling the products.
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If I'm not mistaken you own a web store and sell products as well-correct?
 
wannafbody said:
If I'm not mistaken you own a web store and sell products as well-correct?
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No, that is not correct. I do not have a web store and I do not sell car care products. Sorry.

But you will find that what I have said in previous posts in this thread to be very correct. Once again, sorry.
 
wannafbody said:
the original thread is at detailers club. I believe MGM2203 or something similar is the original poster. I also believe that Detail City's own Greg Cavi was a beta tester. Will he be called a shill as well? Since I'm reposting another persons review calling me a shill is absurd and frankly takes away from the open nature of this forum and seriously erodes this forums credibility.
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Where at any point or time did I call you a shill???
I merely asked whom the poster (reviewer) was, and also inquired if you had any way to answer any questons regarding the product.

"J"
 
The Fuzz said:
No, that is not correct. I do not have a web store and I do not sell car care products. Sorry.

But you will find that what I have said in previous posts in this thread to be very correct. Once again, sorry.
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My bad, I stand corrected.
 
jaybs95 said:
Where at any point or time did I call you a shill???
I merely asked whom the poster (reviewer) was, and also inquired if you had any way to answer any questons regarding the product.

"J"
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I didn't mean to infer that you called me a shill. I interpretted (possibly incorrectly) that the Fuzz was referring to me, along with others of being shills.
 
The Fuzz said:
He's thankful that the shills are here so he can bump some Zaino threads. That's what he does. Like a good neighbor, he is there to bump your Zaino threads.
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Wow! I amaze myself sometimes! I DIDN"T KNOW IT AT THE TIME BUT HE REALLY FREAKIN WAS BUMPING HIS NEIGHBOR MGM2003's (as copied and pasted by wannafbody) PRODUCT HYPE!

What a great tag team of shills! I think they deserve a round of applause!
 
I must have missed the part where you responded to whether or not you would be able to answer any questions regarding the product.

As for DetailCity's Gregcavi being one of the beta testers... MGM2000 is also a member of this forum. Why would'nt he have just posted the info himself this way members may have been able to get the answer from the original tester.

"J"
 
jaybs95 said:
I must have missed the part where you responded to whether or not you would be able to answer any questions regarding the product.

As for DetailCity's Gregcavi being one of the beta testers... MGM2000 is also a member of this forum. Why would'nt he have just posted the info himself this way members may have been able to get the answer from the original tester.

"J"
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I'm not sure of those answers. In short, ZAIO is a fairly standard aio type product-centainly not groundbreaking except that it is fully compatible with the Zaino system and doesn't require ZFX. Clear Seal is a full standalone sealant with tested 6+ month durability that some have tested over various other products and over Zaino products and it doesn't require ZFX either. It is simply a wipe on and walk away product. Maybe the beta testers will post more detailed info.
 
jaybs95 said:
I must have missed the part where you responded to whether or not you would be able to answer any questions regarding the product.

As for DetailCity's Gregcavi being one of the beta testers... MGM2000 is also a member of this forum. Why would'nt he have just posted the info himself this way members may have been able to get the answer from the original tester.

"J"
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J,

They got owned in this thread. I exposed the plot that the neighbors had. He felt singled out because he was paranoid. He knew that his neighbor wrote that. In fact, he may have even written it himself for all we know.

When wannafbody let us know that mgm2003 was the author of the hype, GBGTL ran away because he knew I would bring up the part about how mgm2003 was his neighbor and how Greg Cavi was all into Zaino because mgm2003 was setting him up with samples. Greg made this known right here on DC by thanking mgm2003 for setting him up and showing him the light. Now that Greg Cavi is a beta tester for Zaino products, everyone can see that this was a collaborated effort by some shills to generate hype on the forums.

Do I have proof GBGTL? I'd have enough to convict.
 
But in all fairness to those individuals, don't other manufacturers routinely hand out samples and don't those samples generate reviews? That isn't to say that every sample thread starter is an overly generous all out shill.
 
wannafbody said:
But in all fairness to those individuals, don't other manufacturers routinely hand out samples and don't those samples generate reviews? That isn't to say that every sample thread starter is an overly generous all out shill.
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You can try to spin it as much as you want but those guys have been known shills for quite some time.

Keep in mind that this isn't a standard review but BREAKING NEWS all over the internet.

But you already knew that.
 
I usually would like to read a review that is made by the person posting it. That way, I can read a personal opinion about the product and maybe learn something that the other person didn't mention.
 
The Fuzz said:
Wow, let's see....

MGM2003 is GBG-TL's next door freakin' neighbor. Hmmmmmmmmmmm very interesting isn't it?

If I'm not mistaken, wasn't it MGM2003 that Greg Cavi was thanking so much for sending him some Zaino to try?

And now our buddy Greg is a new product beta tester for Zaino???

I'd have to say in light of these facts brought to us by wannafbody, it's pretty clear that the shills are trying to pull one over on the forum members.
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I don't like positing on DC much any more, and this is why.

Greg happens to be a friend, and I purchased Zaino for him as a college graduation gift.

Here's the receipt -not that I should have to post it up.

You guys should be ashamed -I really don't deserve this, and either does my neighbor.

Thanks,
John

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Hey John,

I never said that you didn't buy the Zaino you sent to Greg. Whether you purchased it or not was never called into question.

You are just hard to trust ever since that Fiber-Works thing. Remember that?
It is a proven fact that you have accepted products in the past in exchange for talking about them on the forums.

And even you have to admit that GBG-TL popping in just to bump your writeup was sure to raise the red flags. Don't you agree? Especially when this is getting posted all over the online car care world.

You and your neighbor wouldn't be subject to my opinion if you guys would just keep the hype away from me.
 
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