Revisiting an old enemy: Meg's #7
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Accumulator
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SuperBee364 said:
While it might not've hidden the holograms, it generally *does* do a fair amount of concealing IME, guess it just depends on what you're working with (esp. b/c vs. ss) and who's doing the evaluating.
When I wanted to do *something* to spruce up an old (ss lacquer) Jag I was flipping, I did a pretty incredible makeover using *only* #7. Temporary to say the least, but it sure did the trick. I *do* suppose that situation was primarily a matter of the old ss lacquer though... :think:
Heh heh, good thing this week is almost over; that makes *THREE* times you and I have been on opposite sides of the fence :nervous:
dogma said:
Yeah, we're suddenly coming full-circle here! I'm just waiting for somebody to rave about how IHG topped with Blitz is the New Hotness; at that point Autopia will be right back where it was when I first started lurking here. Kinda surprises me with all the newfangled products on the market, but then again when something simply *works* then I guess it's no big mystery.
zaxjax said:
Good heavens, doing a huge beast like that with a pure polish/Souveran combo
OK, even if it *was* just one panel, as a YukonXL owner the idea still made an impression on me.
SuperBee364
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Accumulator said:
While it might not've hidden the holograms, it generally *does* do a fair amount of concealing IME, guess it just depends on what you're working with (esp. b/c vs. ss) and who's doing the evaluating.
When I wanted to do *something* to spruce up an old (ss lacquer) Jag I was flipping, I did a pretty incredible makeover using *only* #7. Temporary to say the least, but it sure did the trick. I *do* suppose that situation was primarily a matter of the old ss lacquer though... :think:
Heh heh, good thing this week is almost over; that makes *THREE* times you and I have been on opposite sides of the fence :nervous:
Yeah, we're suddenly coming full-circle here! I'm just waiting for somebody to rave about how IHG topped with Blitz is the New Hotness; at that point Autopia will be right back where it was when I first started lurking here. Kinda surprises me with all the newfangled products on the market, but then again when something simply *works* then I guess it's no big mystery.
Good heavens, doing a huge beast like that with a pure polish/Souveran combo
Yeah, TBH, my test wasn't exactly comprehensive. Just putting a few grams in defect free paint and then seeing if #7 would hide them really isn't a fair test of it's concealing ability. Other than the holograms, the only defects in my paint are a few RIDS the car got when it was having it's vinyl stickers applied at the factory. So I really didn't have anything to gauge defect concealing.
I sure do love the look of number seven, though. My results using #7 back in the 80's kinda kept me away from glazes in general until fairly recently.
It was actually something that Todd said that kindled my interest in glazes. He said something about how you can only achieve *so much* gloss by using an abrasive polish. If you want to take the gloss level over what's possible using an abrasive, you gotta use something else: a good glaze.
As long as glazes aren't used as a crutch for poor prep work, I sure don't have a problem with their use. The added look is very nice.
imported_Ivan Rajic
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SuperBee364 said:
Yea M07 looks nice and all but what if you spill a few drops on your garage floor or the driveway while applying? Or WORSE, if you have a bottle of M07 sitting on the floor and you knock it over and it spills like 6oz!! Do you have a water and waste reclamation system or will you simply wash it down the drain and ruin my life and the life of my children?!
SuperBee364
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lecchilo said:
Oh, good heavens, no! I am not capable of making such a decision. I will leave it to the government, as they obviously have far better common sense than I do. I will leave the spill there until appropriate legislation has been passed to tell me exactly how to clean it up, and where to take it for disposal. Whether or not cleaning up this spill in the way in which the law is enacted is harder on the environment makes no difference; I'm not mentally capable of making such a drastic decision. So you and your children can sigh a big breath of relief; your gov't will regulate such action down to how often you can even wash your clothes.:lol
Edit: for those of you wondering if Lecchilo and I are serious, absolutely not. We're just poking jest at a recent thread. Lecchilo and I are good friends, really.
imported_Ivan Rajic
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SuperBee364 said:
My government loves me and earth!
EDIT: I'm dead serious idk what you're smoking
Jason M said:
I was wondering how it would look on white. I have #5 New Car glaze, i used it on my streetbike, didnt really notice anything special, but it would be my lack of knowledge. It was wierd seeing a green liquid come out.
Im going to do a full detail on my white corolla tomorrow using M80, m82, and want to use either woflgang dgps or Poorboys ex-p. Maybe I will do half the car with the #5 then either fuzion or collinite.
Would like to see if the glaze does anything for the white.
Thanks
SuperBee364
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lecchilo said:
Oh, good heavens, smoking is bad for you! Oh wait, actually, if it was bad for me and the environment, wouldn't the gov't ban smoking? Oh wait, not if there's big money to be made in it. Sorry, forgot about that.
SuperBee364
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02zx9r said:
The half and half idea sounds like a good plan. I haven't personally used it on white, but I would think that it should add some noticeable gloss. It would be interesting to see how a hybrid LSP (like Fuzion or the Collinites) works over a very oily glaze like this. Hopefully it won't degrade the durability too much.
Greg Nichols
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I have a black single stage paint job right now, so I bought some #7. Applied it via PC, thinly and it harden up??? Was a B Ich to remove, so I use the PC with the residue to help the process. After removal it looked oily, I wiped and wiped but still looks oily (like slight halos). I applied 845 over it and wiped it off, the trunk looks like someone smeared vasoline on it. I'm frustrated now. I will do a ONR wipe down tomorrow and see if that clears it up.
Help...........
Cheers,
GREG
Help...........
Cheers,
GREG
imported_Bence
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Did you shake it up properly?
Don
Darth Camaro 12/27/15
Greg Nichols said:
Sounds like you didn't apply it as thin as you thought. When they say a few dime-sized drops on a pad, they (almost) literally mean 2 or three and no more than 5. Too, you may be working on too large of an area & the product "thickens" up becoming VERY hard to work with.
Suggestion 1: Reread the post from Mike Phillips & the part about how it stays oily forever and it takes several passes to remove the excess #7
Suggestion 2: Shrink your work area...don't try to go so fast & cover too big of an area all at once.
Suggestion 3: Cut WAAAAY back on the amount of #7 you're using...it's much easier to add a little bit at a time until you reach the proper amount than it is to cut back when you're using too much.
Suggestion #4: When getting frustrated, step back, have a smoke (if you smoke) grab a cold one of your choice (adult beverage or soda) chill out & think the problem through..come inside & check the boards for similar occurances.
If none of the above work, dump the bottle of #7 over your head & run naked down the street. It won't help your detailing issues, but you won't have to deal with them for a while either...24 - 72 hours is the usual time a Psych Evaluation takes at the local hospital. :chill:
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Don M said:
Suggestion #6: Use a different glaze.:wall
I have some and don't use it very often. It is tricky sometimes.
SuperBee364
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Greg, that was exactly my frustration when I tried to use it back in the '80's. Hence the title of this thread. I was trying to use it on single stage paints, too.
It appears that the real solution to the problem is the "two handed" method; have the applicator in one hand, and the MF to remove the residue in the other. Now do a Karate Kid "Wax on.... Wax off".... apply and then almost simultaneously remove the residue. It should look pretty oily after removal. Don't stress about the oil giving you kind of a halo or 'gram look. That'll go away after an hour or two.
Man, I'm gonna feel bad if this doesn't work out for you, as I was the one that convinced you to give it a shot.
I'm going with the wife and kids to an Easter egg hunt this morning, but I'll make sure I have my cell phone with me. Please call me... let me know how it's going and if there's anything I can do to help.
Edit: If you can't get the 7 to work for you, you might want to try going over the car with RMG via PC. I would *think* that RMG would be able to fix the mess left from #7.
It appears that the real solution to the problem is the "two handed" method; have the applicator in one hand, and the MF to remove the residue in the other. Now do a Karate Kid "Wax on.... Wax off".... apply and then almost simultaneously remove the residue. It should look pretty oily after removal. Don't stress about the oil giving you kind of a halo or 'gram look. That'll go away after an hour or two.
Man, I'm gonna feel bad if this doesn't work out for you, as I was the one that convinced you to give it a shot.
I'm going with the wife and kids to an Easter egg hunt this morning, but I'll make sure I have my cell phone with me. Please call me... let me know how it's going and if there's anything I can do to help.
Edit: If you can't get the 7 to work for you, you might want to try going over the car with RMG via PC. I would *think* that RMG would be able to fix the mess left from #7.
jfelbab
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#7 requires a technique for sure. I thiny apply it to a section and remove with a cotton towel then wipe again with a MF. Any slight streaking or oilyness seems to be taken care of with the LSP application for me. I also use multiple pads for application as they tend to get too oily and cause the glaze to get too thick.
I still use this regularly on my SS 91 Red MR2 prior to shows and it makes the paint look wet like it has just been sprayed.
I still use this regularly on my SS 91 Red MR2 prior to shows and it makes the paint look wet like it has just been sprayed.
For those of you looking for something that makes white paint POP, I suggest you try Danase Wet Glaze. It's just awesome on white.
#7 is fine on white, but the Danase is better and so easy to apply and remove. Plus, it's cheap.
For the guy above who's having problems with #7 on his black single stage paint, have you prepped the paint prior to applying the #7? I mean, have you compouned it to remove swirls and oxydized paint? If not, dead paint really sucks up #7 and makes it streaky and hard to remove.
Jim
#7 is fine on white, but the Danase is better and so easy to apply and remove. Plus, it's cheap.
For the guy above who's having problems with #7 on his black single stage paint, have you prepped the paint prior to applying the #7? I mean, have you compouned it to remove swirls and oxydized paint? If not, dead paint really sucks up #7 and makes it streaky and hard to remove.
Jim
Pats300zx
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Well weather here today sucks so I am trapped inside and decided to revisit #7 on my black 350Z. Here are my observations for application and removal.
I applied it very thin and immediately removed it. To let it dry is a big "no no" and made it a major PITA to remove.
I applied it to several panels and decided to top with a couple diff nubas. I tried Natty's Red over top of #7 and the look is killer. It looks like I dipped the finish in oil. I tried topping with Souveran and found the Natty's panels looked better.
Go figure...My guess is that they Natty's Red side looks better due to the fact that it has alot of oils.
Edit...guess I know what I will be doing the rest of the day
I applied it very thin and immediately removed it. To let it dry is a big "no no" and made it a major PITA to remove.
I applied it to several panels and decided to top with a couple diff nubas. I tried Natty's Red over top of #7 and the look is killer. It looks like I dipped the finish in oil. I tried topping with Souveran and found the Natty's panels looked better.
Go figure...My guess is that they Natty's Red side looks better due to the fact that it has alot of oils.
Edit...guess I know what I will be doing the rest of the day
SuperBee364
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Pats300zx said:Well weather here today sucks so I am trapped inside and decided to revisit #7 on my black 350Z. Here are my observations for application and removal.
I applied it very thin and immediately removed it. To let it dry is a big "no no" and made it a major PITA to remove.
I applied it to several panels and decided to top with a couple diff nubas. I tried Natty's Red over top of #7 and the look is killer. It looks like I dipped the finish in oil. I tried topping with Souveran and found the Natty's panels looked better.
Go figure...My guess is that they Natty's Red side looks better due to the fact that it has alot of oils.
Edit...guess I know what I will be doing the rest of the day
That's another great description that eluded me.
Glad it's workin' for ya, Pat.
lecchilo said:
I guess my OCD kicks in but you're right, communication is key
Accumulator said:
While it might not've hidden the holograms, it generally *does* do a fair amount of concealing IME, guess it just depends on what you're working with (esp. b/c vs. ss) and who's doing the evaluating.
When I wanted to do *something* to spruce up an old (ss lacquer) Jag I was flipping, I did a pretty incredible makeover using *only* #7. Temporary to say the least, but it sure did the trick. I *do* suppose that situation was primarily a matter of the old ss lacquer though... :think:
Heh heh, good thing this week is almost over; that makes *THREE* times you and I have been on opposite sides of the fence :nervous:
Yeah, we're suddenly coming full-circle here! I'm just waiting for somebody to rave about how IHG topped with Blitz is the New Hotness; at that point Autopia will be right back where it was when I first started lurking here. Kinda surprises me with all the newfangled products on the market, but then again when something simply *works* then I guess it's no big mystery.
Good heavens, doing a huge beast like that with a pure polish/Souveran combo
I have to tackle the Yukon XL panel by panel, it takes way too much time to do the whole thing!
Pats300zx said:Well weather here today sucks so I am trapped inside and decided to revisit #7 on my black 350Z. Here are my observations for application and removal.
I applied it very thin and immediately removed it. To let it dry is a big "no no" and made it a major PITA to remove.
I applied it to several panels and decided to top with a couple diff nubas. I tried Natty's Red over top of #7 and the look is killer. It looks like I dipped the finish in oil. I tried topping with Souveran and found the Natty's panels looked better.
Go figure...My guess is that they Natty's Red side looks better due to the fact that it has alot of oils.
Edit...guess I know what I will be doing the rest of the day
I think I'm going to try several different nuba's on each test panel. I did Souveran, and I have Natty's Blue and Red, P21S 100%, Collinite 476, Megs #16 and some Fuzion