Reduce Detail Times 30 Minutes: 4 tips

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So you want to shave off some time while detailing your car…well, here are some tips to help you do that without sacrificing quality (there are other ways, but here are 4 that I personally use from time to time):



1. Dress plastic and rubber PRIOR to car washing.



Using water based tire dressing like Meguiars Hyper Dressing at a 2:1 ratio, dress the tires before washing the car. After you wash the car, and move onto the wheels, your wheel washing step will remove the overspray/over wipe of tire dressing on the wheels. This will save you from having to clean the wheel, dress the tires, and then go back around the wheels again to wipe them down to remove the dressing. Not to mention, you can use this on all the trim as well while the car is still wet (think Nissan Xterra with lots of big trim pieces) and it will apply and hold if you wanted. I always will do this on tires that have a lot of groove, nubs, crevices since trying to dress those by hand takes a long time. Instead, I just spray Meguiars Hyper all over the tire and wash off the excess and am left with smooth looking tires!



2. Start from the TOP and work your way DOWN on interiors.



Dust the car before you vacuum the interior. This will loosen the dust and dirt from the cracks and crevices and allow it to fall onto easier to vacuum areas leaving you to just vacuum one time and have a clean interior in one shot, instead of vacuuming, then dusting and having the dust remain in the car (a towel doesn’t always pick up dust and hold onto it). I actually have the brush with me while I am vacuuming so that I can dust and hold the vacuum right next to the duster so while I brush the dust from the crack, it will get sucked up by the vacuum. If you have compressed air, blast EVERYTHING above the carpet level as your FIRST step to loosen dirt into areas you can access.



3. Use ONE cleaner for MULTIPLE PURPOSES.



Something like Optimum No rinse can be used for clay lube, washings, interior cleaning, wheel cleaning, and so forth. Instead of using an APC for this, a degreaser for that, and maybe an acid for the rare occasion, one product will have you reaching back in the product bin less and less, leaving you on the car longer, and providing faster detailing! The less time you have to go back and forth between products, the better! I have used ONR for a waterless wash (in areas where washing is not allowed), then used the same bottle for a clay lube, and used the rest of the spray bottle for a quick interior cleaning! Total time saved was about 3 minutes, but doing that with multiple products/steps throughout the detail process, well that will add up!



4. Dry the car in 2 minutes.



It’s not entirely necessary to dry the car after washing, but before claying the car. Keep in mind I would only do this with soft water (non-water spot creating) and would still dry the windows if you are not planning on polishing the windows, because the water will add a little extra lubricity to help the clay glide across the paint with the clay lube. The time saved from drying can range from 10-15 minutes in this step alone! If you have hard water, and you know its going to take you a while to go around the car, it might be a smart move to do a quick dry where you get most of the water off the car, or dry it completely to prevent the water spotting from occurring.



Author: Eric Schuster

Envious Detailing

Orange County, CA



Link to original article: Reduce Car Detailing Times 30 minutes: 4 tips
 
Valid points! Time is money and every minute you can save adds up in the end. Time saving tips like this is what can get a detailer from making $40.00 an hour up to $65.00 an hour. Noobs, take note and follow these important tips!
 
Easiest way to save time in my shop is stressing the prep wash. Making sure the car is washed/decontaminated properly saves time on almost every other aspect of the detail job. Half assed wash jobs can add TONS of time later having to fix things that could have been done in minutes in the wash bay. Hardest thing to hammer home with employees.
 
not written for the autopian/100% correct way to do things..there are no shortcuts to that and it takes as long as it takes obviously. You can always find things that should be done, but arent done on every detail...like decon steps, pre-foaming a car, brushing out tight areas first with p21s TAW, etc.



Do I do it on every single car? no. Do I do it on the maintained cars that I have monthly that dont need the tires scrubbed down because there isnt any build up, tons of road grime on them, yes.



you cant apply something to every single vehicle obviously, some cars dont need what other cars must have
 
The impeccable detailed wash is FIRST always.....wheel wells and undercarriage included. I am glad someone sees the importance of time. Some folks here are spending days to do a detail here. My average detail runs 3.5 hours....after that I am taking a bath. In other words losing money! I cant spend days on a detail. Not going to happen here. I did a twin turbo BMW yesterday. Black! Came out like glass....2.5 hours start to finish. Bill was 235.00. Customer very pleased and I was on my way. 93 dollars per hour on this particular job. I challenge myself to get at least 75.00 dollars per hour while on the road. Less at the shop.
 
Its simple....as I stated over two years ago on this site.....time is money. I dont work for free and I bring the finest products available to my clients vehicles. I am on a constant quest for the very best products...I have been doing this Since 1969. The best is never good enough for me. I live by my name with every polish correction job I do. "Paintxpert" on line as just that. The "InvisibleGarageProtection" lasts six months or I do the car again FREE!!! I never redid a job, Thank God!
 
Quality work is not everything.....its the only thing. It takes less time to do it right the FIRST time. A BBB rating of A+ is a MUST. Second best is just that. Ask.com search: "Expert auto polishing" conduct a business of unsurpassed value and quality. No your stuff.... when others have not got a clue. Save your money on Ads because you live on your reputation. I have worked by this motto for over 39 years. That good health and the graces of God! Happy holidays!
 
Work with your heart in it every day. Your clients will see your enthusiasm. No doubt they will ask you back. Good work is difficult to find these days. Agree with yourself on an hourly rate and dont work for less. Never do FREE work ....unless that is what it is worth. Learn and tweek your job continually until you achieve the results you desire. Never settle until success and achieving optimal results. This is a great place to build your business.
 
paintxpert said:
I did a twin turbo BMW yesterday. Black! Came out like glass....2.5 hours start to finish.



Not to question your expertise, but this is a little vague. Are you doing full interior, correction, dressing trim, and sealing paint all in 2.5 hours? There are many different levels of detailing and this ambiguity is much of the cause for lack of understanding and unrealistic expectations by customers. I am capable of washing and drying a car in 15 minutes, but it is not my best work. If you are capable of creating the results in 2.5 hours that other detailers are taking 15+ hours to create, I will pay you any price you command for training.



Use caution when comparing times in a vacuum.
 
Nth Degree said:
Not to question your expertise, but this is a little vague. Are you doing full interior, correction, dressing trim, and sealing paint all in 2.5 hours? There are many different levels of detailing and this ambiguity is much of the cause for lack of understanding and unrealistic expectations by customers. I am capable of washing and drying a car in 15 minutes, but it is not my best work. If you are capable of creating the results in 2.5 hours that other detailers are taking 15+ hours to create, I will pay you any price you command for training.



Use caution when comparing times in a vacuum.



agreed, there is no way you can polish a car in 2.5 hours with any sort of true correct being done. along with the wash, clay, wheels, wipedown, windows, etc.



if you say you are getting perfect results, then I would love to do a side by side comparison with you!



why do you charge less at the shop which clearly has more overhead????



and you can spend days on a detail, I do it all the time and clear 4-digit invoices.
 
paintxpert said:
The impeccable detailed wash is FIRST always.....wheel wells and undercarriage included. I am glad someone sees the importance of time. Some folks here are spending days to do a detail here. My average detail runs 3.5 hours....after that I am taking a bath. In other words losing money! I cant spend days on a detail. Not going to happen here. I did a twin turbo BMW yesterday. Black! Came out like glass....2.5 hours start to finish. Bill was 235.00. Customer very pleased and I was on my way. 93 dollars per hour on this particular job. I challenge myself to get at least 75.00 dollars per hour while on the road. Less at the shop.



Oh boy.... here we go again. By any chance was the guy from this thread your customer?



http://www.autopia.org/forum/epic-t...le-price-david-fermani-opti-coat-new-car.html



Pics of your work? It is 100% impossible to do an Autopian-level full detail in 2.5 hours.
 
toyotaguy said:
agreed, there is no way you can polish a car in 2.5 hours with any sort of true correct being done. along with the wash, clay, wheels, wipedown, windows, etc.



if you say you are getting perfect results, then I would love to do a side by side comparison with you!



why do you charge less at the shop which clearly has more overhead????



and you can spend days on a detail, I do it all the time and clear 4-digit invoices.



Have to agree. My fastest detail, with polishing the paint, is my General Full. Which is pretty much wash, clay, 1-step polish(aio), wax, general interior, windows and tires and even on a small car it takes me roughly 3 hours. Just like you said...its no true paint correction, just cleaning up the paint, removing some lighter scratches/swirls and shining the paint. So I cannot imagine that 80%+ true correction could be done in that time.



Also, I wish I could clear some 4 digit invoices. I have a vehicle coming up for a restoration shop...that I am pretty sure I shot myself in the foot for...thats going to take around 20 hours of work. :(
 
Before I used Nitro Seal on my GTI, I washed, clayed, dryed, and spent 3 hours just polishing with a PCXP, Megs MF pads and Uno. Hey this was my car, well maintained and garaged. Even my wife was amazed with the results. I doubt I did as good as some guys here, but I'd say it would pass. But it still took me the better part of the day.
 
I dont clay.....I know how to machine polish. 2.5 hours and the pics can be seen on my web site. Hundreds of details are on my site. My shop is my home base with little or no overhead ...with the acception of my labor and supplies. My correction work is superior. search "expert auto polishing". The 2.5 hours was an exterior only including wheels and wheel wells. It should not take longer than that unless your billing extra.
 
Without offending anyone around here. Clay is for newbies who cant machine polish. I can get a panel so PERFECT with a wool pad that you would scratch it if you wiped it down with the softest cloth. After perfecting with wool, I move to the foam pad. By that time the panel substraight surface is nothing less than perfect. Now it depends on paint quality relating to results. Chevy paint is chevy paint. But Mercedes Benz should be perfect. Its important to point out that 85 percent of the cars I do are BLACK!! I love BLACK!!!
 
If you can machine polish with a rotary you can not only save time, but your doing correction that cannot be done by hand. I have said it before here on this site. If you cant do paint rejuvenation by power polishing the panel, your just not a detailer. Yes clay can take hours....while your claying I am almost done. I did a Black Bently last week....outside only.....2.5 hours. I do this car every year. Minor correction and the car was like glass. The owner watches me most times. I always hand him the Maskita as I call it. He says know way. A mans got to know his limitations. My fee 225.00 on this yearly job. His car is always a FIRST PLACE SHOW WINNER. I rest my case.
 
As they say time is money. Money is time. After 39 years .....I now only work part-time. About five cars per week. Thats all I need. I am on the downside and loving it. I have five muscle cars sitting and zero time to drive them. In 2012 I want to change all that! Be well and happy motoring to all!!!!
 
Please dont anyone take offense to my business tactics.....I dont mean any offense.....this is what has worked for me the last 39 years or so. This is not romper room for me. This is my ONLY income my whole life. My hope is that everyone on here can reap the benefit I have the last 39 years. Its been great for me. The one important thing to keep in mind is your clients are the only ones that can make you FIRST in you industry. I always go the extra mile to be sure the job is right. "InvisibleGarageProtection" and SIX full months of protection or it done again free ! PS no claying here.
 
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