Really bad Water Spot Woes

jill70 said:
Thanks for the replies all! Well it's been a long and hard day's work but I removed the spots and the car now looks better than ever.. let's hope I can keep it that way.

Vinegar did nothing and the spots laughed at the clay bar. What did work was 3M rubbing compound with lots of rubbing followed by Megs ScratchX2.0 and more rubbing. The spots were very stubborn and well into the paint but eventually I got rid of them. By eventually I mean 6 hours of rubbing by hand and 2 hours with a rotary buffer that a neighbor kindly loaned me this afternoon. It all went slowly as I didn't want to take off more paint than necessary in the process. I took my time.
I followed with a polish and a thorough wax.

I suspect the old single stage paint is very porous and somehow the rain and what ever is in the rain is penetrating beneath the paint surface. I'm in Los Angeles and the rain isn't exactly pristine here but I believe ultimately this is due to the paint's unusual porosity and not the LA rain.
Interestingly the hood of the car was spotless and in polishing I discovered the hood, and only the hood, is clear coated. Must have been replaced at some point. So at least I don't have to worry about these spots on that part of the car :)
I think that the wax from my detail 3 months ago had mostly worn away and was no longer offering enough protection. The car's my daily driver and lives outside so it's exposed to a lot. I wash the car by hand weekly and had been using Megs Ultimate Quik wax after each wash. It seems the Quik wax, applied weekly, isn't quite enough protection for the poor paint on this car. Or maybe I need to do a major wax with a heavy duty product more often than 3X a year? Maybe monthly or bi- monthly?
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Glad you got the water spots out Jill!:thumbup:

Wax doesnt last more than 3 months ,your right. You should wax at least 4 times a year or even more depending on the climate .
 
detailchick said:
LOL Flash! :tongue:I think as one ages the confusion gets worse!
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Good, now I will at least have an excuse for my behavior :ar!

Happy Halloween DC <:-P

jill70 said:
Thanks for the replies all! Well it's been a long and hard day's work but I removed the spots and the car now looks better than ever.. let's hope I can keep it that way.

Vinegar did nothing and the spots laughed at the clay bar. What did work was 3M rubbing compound with lots of rubbing followed by Megs ScratchX2.0 and more rubbing. The spots were very stubborn and well into the paint but eventually I got rid of them. By eventually I mean 6 hours of rubbing by hand and 2 hours with a rotary buffer that a neighbor kindly loaned me this afternoon. It all went slowly as I didn't want to take off more paint than necessary in the process. I took my time.
I followed with a polish and a thorough wax.

I suspect the old single stage paint is very porous and somehow the rain and what ever is in the rain is penetrating beneath the paint surface. I'm in Los Angeles and the rain isn't exactly pristine here but I believe ultimately this is due to the paint's unusual porosity and not the LA rain.
Interestingly the hood of the car was spotless and in polishing I discovered the hood, and only the hood, is clear coated. Must have been replaced at some point. So at least I don't have to worry about these spots on that part of the car :)
I think that the wax from my detail 3 months ago had mostly worn away and was no longer offering enough protection. The car's my daily driver and lives outside so it's exposed to a lot. I wash the car by hand weekly and had been using Megs Ultimate Quik wax after each wash. It seems the Quik wax, applied weekly, isn't quite enough protection for the poor paint on this car. Or maybe I need to do a major wax with a heavy duty product more often than 3X a year? Maybe monthly or bi- monthly?
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Yea, single stage paint jobs do tend to dry out faster for sure. If your car is exposed to those nasty day to day horendous air quality indexs LA offers I'm afraid your going to e having to preform this task at minimual 4 times a year. Have you considered getting a DA? :-?

Another thing. Avoid irrigation/sprinklers at all cost :2 cents:

jill70 said:
yes, I need such a product! My paint does not take well to beads of water.
Can anyone suggest a sheeting action product?
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Well, the stuff I use I get local. And when I say local, I mean this place musta had Huckleberry Finn name there product line. Its called Willies Wet Wax I believe. I hardly ever use it as 99.9999% of my peeps are hooked on beads :drool5:

There are several different manufactures that offer this type of product. I'm just not that familiar. Hopefully someone else will chime in. If Collinite offered something like this, I would go that route for sure :Christmas Hat:
 
When Autoglym High definition is on our cars it sheets amazing.After it rains we have to the windows up cause water from the roof falls into the cabin, its a pretty slick wax, and $35.00 at big box mart :) sheets like craazzzyyyyy:smile:
 
I had a regular customer complain my wax wasnt beading anymore like it used to so I asked him what he was washing with and it was some kind of new carsoap and when I read the front of the bottle it said "sheeting action"! well no wonder !! I told him thats what the soap was designed to do.

Anyway i cant remember the carsoap but it did have the word" ice" on it somewhere. sorry thats all I can remember but you may want to look for that as well Jill.:)
 
Next time try CG water spot remover or Mark V water spot remover before correction or polishing, both are heavy duty products but used right will get you through a tough task like this in the future when vinegar falls short.
 
detailchick said:
I had a regular customer complain my wax wasnt beading anymore like it used to so I asked him what he was washing with and it was some kind of new carsoap and when I read the front of the bottle it said "sheeting action"! well no wonder !! I told him thats what the soap was designed to do.

Anyway i cant remember the carsoap but it did have the word" ice" on it somewhere. sorry thats all I can remember but you may want to look for that as well Jill.:)
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Turtle wax ICE, horrid stuff
 
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