Problem with Collinite 845 Leaving "Residue"

Alexshimshimhae said:
da polisher? why?
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....yeah, definitely don't agree with that, at least in my experience. Until my incident a few months ago, I never had an issue with the application of 845 by hand. In fact, that's always been one of it's qualities people talk about (ease of use).
 
Alex, I don't really understand the last part of your post. I feel like you are saying to wash it to get rid of the oils and fillers, but wouldn't putting a wax on top of the fillers be the best thing to do to keep my paint looking nice and smooth? And I think I am going to borrow my friends porter cable, so it will be much easier.



I feel like if I'm going to do all of this, I should just go ahead and claybar it too. I don't have time to order stuff on the internet obviously, so I was just going to buy the claybar stuff at walmart like the meguirs package or whatever.



Step 1 - Wash car

Step 2 - Claybar

Step 3 - Wash car

Step 4 - Use ColorX

Step 5 - Wash or not wash...

Step 6 - Apply wax with Porter Cable



At this point and 2 bad experiences with Collinite, I will probably just buy some turtle wax to use with the porter cable.

I think my friend has white, black, and red pads, which ones should I use for what?
 
I said leaving the fillers in would be good if you wont be doing a full correction.



For me, I'll take it off to get a better assessment as to how much work you need to put into polishing. that's just me though.

I'm trying to get myself to get as close to perfect prep as possible.



i THINK if colorx has fillers...you can play it safe and just leave it in i guess?...polish use the white, lsp used the red i THINK
 
But our OP is not doing any paint correction; hence there is no need to worry about "fillers." Apply the ColorX and then, if desired, top it with one's preferred wax.
 
bigdawgfoxx-Not all products play nice together, so it can be a little tricky/risky to generalize too much about what toppers work OK on what underlying stuff.



In this case, the closer you can get to "clean paint" the better things are likely to turn out.



Even without doing a full, "real" polishing, the Color-X should get things good enough for a *THIN* application of 845 to work OK.



Cleaner-waxes are designed to clean off whatever's on there now, replacing it with *their* stuff. That stuff is usually not problematic and whatever's on there now is.



[Repeat opinion that the pores/microfissures are overloaded with excess 845 that can't bond because the paint needs better prep...]



Yeah, Color-X will do some concealing. Yeah it should be OK with a topper.



If there's any chance that the Color-X/845 combo won't work right, it'd be from the solvents in the 845. That'd still surprise me as I've used 845 over top of all kinds of products with no problems.



Heh heh, I'd sure be surprised if using TW was a step in the right direction, not that I've never been wrong before (but this one would be one for the books).



If you can use that PC- white or black for the Color-X, red for the 845 (assuming the usual pad color/application match-ups).



NO WAY for me to overemphasize the importance of a test spot. Make sure that whatever you do works before you try it on the whole car.
 
I personally love 845 and its my go to wax. Having said that, it can be tricky at times. Like accum and others have said, make sure you are working with a clean surface and apply 845 with a very very thin coat. Make sure you give it enough time to haze then buff off. I have found one of the major keys to working with 845 is to apply it as thin as you possibly can, otherwise you could end up with an oily looking mess.
 
K. I will wash the car, apply colorx with the PC or by hand (whatever it recommends), and apply a THIN coat of 845. I swear if I pull it out in the sun and there is still cloudiness I am going to be livid.
 
bigdawgfoxx- Heh heh, that's why you want to get things sorted out on a small test spot before doing a big area ;)



I somehow think that doing it by hand might actually be preferable in this case...more control, fewer variables.
 
bigdawgfoxx said:
K. I will wash the car, apply colorx with the PC or by hand (whatever it recommends), and apply a THIN coat of 845. I swear if I pull it out in the sun and there is still cloudiness I am going to be livid.
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To ensure that the problem is not with Collinite 845 throughly wash, dry, and IPA a 2 X 2 test spot. Clay the area and wipe down again with IPA. This should give you a clean surface to start.



On my Porter Cable 7424 I apply Collinite 845 using a red Lake Country pad. For this size area squirt (2) dime sized spots directly opposite one another about 3/4" in from the edge of the pad. Set the speed setting on 3, place the pad on the surface and start the polisher. Move back and fourth in a cross hatch pattern and you'll see the wax is being applied smoothly and cleanly. Continue this for about a couple of minutes working the wax in as it spreads an even thin coat. Remember, thin!!



Allow the wax to dry and this could take 15 minutes or so and I'd test before you try to buff it off. I'd be very surprised if you weren't successful. This product has a huge following and suspect that after this you'll agree.



PS.... Do not spray any kind of detailing spray on the dry pad as if to prime it. Collinite 845 is not a water based product and you'll end up with a big mess on your hands and will have to start over.
 
They didn't have ColorX but they had a Meguirs "Cleaner Wax". Is this going to work or not? Also, as far as the abbreviations go, I have no idea what IPA means lol.



Also I don't have clay, I'm just planning to wash, dry, then use the "Cleaner Wax" unless told that it wont work, in which case I will get the ColorX.
 
Alright thanks. So can I use rubbing alcohol and water in a spray bottle for that?



Also, I kinda need to know if this "cleaner wax" will work or not. Thanks again for everything
 
afaik, cleaner wax SHOULD do the trick(the guys up top have a better handle on which to use than i do) and IPA if you goet 90% or better..I'd dillute it to something like 1 part water to 1 part IPA... you CAN use a spray bottle..I just pour a small small small bit on a MF towel and go to work.
 
Alright, it says it does the same thing as yall have described the ColorX. It says it cleans the paint of contamination and oxidation, polishes, and waxes.



I'm about to back the car out and wash/dry it, so if I really need to take another car into town to get the ColorX I need to know within the next hour or so lol.
 
Just finished the wash, so I guess I will use the cleaner wax and see how that goes. I don't have a digital camera, but will TRY to get some decent pics with my iphone. Doubtful though.
 
bigdawgfoxx- I guess it's worth a try, but the Meg's Cleaner-wax in the burgundy bottle (IIRC it's called "A10" or something like that) is less potent than Color-X. See how it goes, but you just might need to use "serious", high-quality products to sort this out. I suspect that your paint is in need of more work than you think.
 
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