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Lowejackson said:
In what way did the USA save the British from themselves during the two world wars and in how did we (Brits) pose a threat to the world during this period.
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I don't include Britain when I say Europe in regards to your question ;) I often make that mistake and the Brits I have known often are quick to proclaim their proud separate identity from Europe.



However I do include the British Empire @ 18th century onward (and the irregular borders drawn up in Kashmir, Iraq, Israel / Palestine later in the empire - to name a few) in the group when I mention the devastating effects of colonialism leading to modern day probelms.



Sorry for not clarifying.
 
Liberals get bent out of shape about FOX because it represents an attack on their domain, the liberal-dominated media. It's the same reason that conservatives get bet out of shape over the Times--it's against your own opinion and on top of that, popular.
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Actually I think its a bit different to be fair. Fox is diong well in the ratings and the NY Times and other liberal newspapers are losing readership like the Atlanta Journal, SF Chronicle, etc. This fact really tweaks liberals since it's a powerful display of how their base is eroding.
 
Tasty said:
Radiation Monitoring The plot thickens.
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The sites (more than just mosques) are monitored from the OUTSIDE and NOT on the property that is being monitored. They are monitored from public places therefore not requiring a warrant. Just like someone can sit in a public park and monitor you and takes pictures of you. It's not an unreasonable "search & seizure" type situation that would violate someone's 4th Ammendment right.



This is not related to the eavesdropping on teror suspects scenarios. This is an FBI program (not NSA) along with the Department of Energy's Nuclear Emergency Support Team.



This is much to do about nothing in my opinion. Hopefully this won't hinder law enforcement from trying to monitor threats. Kudos for exposing effective counter terror measures, and once again helping the enemy. :rolleyes:



On a side note, I see NYC cops when I'm in Manhattan with hand held radiation and chemical detectors monitoring the streets (people, stores), subways, train stations, etc...



We now live in a world facing a covert and stateless enemy where the threat is real and beyond dangerous. These are effective measures to track suspects and surveil sites.



I know this danger first hand. I've gone to synagogue to worship on Jewish holidays and had policemen with CAR-15 automatic weapons, kevlar vests and helmets and attack dogs standing guard. They're not there for their health. That's how real the threat is. You get a strange feeling when you see this outside your house of worship inside the United States. You realize real quick the potential for an attack.
 
This is a very well done study that points out much of what I stated about the media being biased in their reporting of the news, both left and right. In case you thought your media source was unbiased look into the report to see if you have been fed what they want you to hear.



News reporting should be objective and the biases should only enter into the editorials. Sadly this is far from the practice.



http://www.newsroom.ucla.edu/page.asp?RelNum=6664
 
I hope the Justice Department spends as much time and resources going after the person or persons who have leaked information about these classified programs as they did in the Valerie Plame affair. These leaks border on treason, in that they have disclosed to the terrorists our methods of detection.



Why aren't the liberals up in arms about the leaks like they were with the Plame affair?
 
I think these leaks, while very similar to Plame, affect a broader range of people. We're talking about possible ramifications for the average American if left unchecked, where the Plame thing was about a small group of individuals. I'm not trying to minimize the Plame thing. Isn't it funny though that the White House knows damn well who leaked the info., but they won't give anyone up?
 
MSOsr said:
These leaks border on treason, in that they have disclosed to the terrorists our methods of detection.
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Huh? What methods? I have seen no methods discussed. And you don't think the terrorists thought we could monitor telephone calls and emails? Do you think they live in caves? (Err...don't answer that) Watch some Tom Clancy movies, there's plenty of NSA eavesdropping info in there if you need to come up to speed.



Do you really think that if we are monitoring a terrorist overseas, listening to his calls, that we don't listen when he calls (or gets called from) the US? The stink over this is the monitoring of US citizens.
 
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