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I used a PC, i didnt want to waste my time with the rotary. The rotary is a great tool along with the right chemicals. I also think that Megs #9 is a terrible product, i just thought that i'd add that.



Sellncars



COBRyan said:
Did you use a PC or rotary? I find that is works GREAT with a rotary, better than anything else I have used for swirls.
 
sellncars said:
I used a PC, i didnt want to waste my time with the rotary. The rotary is a great tool along with the right chemicals. I also think that Megs #9 is a terrible product, i just thought that i'd add that.



Sellncars



I agree with you there. What do you prefer with the PC out of curiosity?
 
sellncars said:
Megs DACP as far as i'm concerned is a total waste of cash!! This is by no means anything but a very weak polish.



Sellncars



My experience isn't that it's weak, but that it's really quirky, it's tricky, it's easy to use wrong. If you use the wrong amount (either too much OR too little), or you don't work it the right amount of time (either too long OR not long enough) you don't get good results. The window of acceptable variation is much smaller than it is for competing products. Plus it tends to gum up on the pads.



I'm comfortable with it, but I can see someone else not being so. There are lots of products that other people prefer to #83, and for those good reasons.





Tom
 
sellncars said:
I used a PC, i didnt want to waste my time with the rotary. The rotary is a great tool along with the right chemicals. I also think that Megs #9 is a terrible product, i just thought that i'd add that.



Sellncars



#9 is a curious product, definitely. I couldn't figure out what to do with it, either; I always needed either something stronger or something weaker.



I finally decided to use it when I wanted to use #7 AND take a few swirls out. I can definitely say that the one bottle I have will last the rest of my life, because that situation comes up maybe once a year.



The body shop at the place I last worked used the stuff by the gallon, though, so it must have a specialized use that is different from ours.
 
I wonder if the problem with Megs #9 Swirl Remover is just bad naming. It's rated as 3/10 for abrasiveness, so it really doesn't have a chance of removing swirls.
 
White95Max said:
SVR - you've used VM on door seals? I saw that it's listed on the bottle as one of the uses, but I've always loved Gummipflege for that. Personally, I don't think anything could work better than Gummipflege on door seals, but I'll have to give VM a shot.





I also have gummifledge and love it but only as a topper over VM

Here are my favourite methods for doing door seals



Seriously dried seals

CK VM

Autoglym 07B

Wolfgang black diamond tire gel



Dried seals

Klasse VLRP

1Z gummifledge



Good condition seals

Any of the following

VLRP, gummifledge, WG Black diamond or sonus tire gel



Exterior trim



Seriously oxidised trim - clearkote VM by rotary w/ edge blue pad at 600-1100 rpm

Optimum PP

Autoglym 07B

Sonus or wolfgang black diamond - apply with foam applicator, by cotton rag or use your fingers to give a really wet look

Leave for 1 hour and apply klasse SG or WG plastic sealant



For trim in better condition, replace VM with Klasse VLRP
 
wannafbody said:
IMO the slickness issue is overplayed-slickness is nice but has absolutely no bearing on whether a product looks great or protects
True. However, I've found (in general) that the slicker an LSP feels, the easier it will release dirt during a wash. I tend to power wash my car at a spray bay before finishing with a hand wash (especially in the winter, to knock off the big crud). For me, at least, the slicker the finish was before it got dirty, the more dirt will come off during the power wash.



Tort
 
I'm surprised at all the negatives about SG....sounds like many are applying too much product. Makes it hard to shine and doesn't look good. "If you can see SG residue/haze on the surface before buffing then you're applying too much." I like it because it increases the base protection.
 
Black240SX said:
I wonder if the problem with Megs #9 Swirl Remover is just bad naming. It's rated as 3/10 for abrasiveness, so it really doesn't have a chance of removing swirls.



#9 was the very first swirl remover I ever used. It can remove some mild problems, but it doesn't finish as well as what is available these days and has a lot of fillers that mask how much you have actually removed.
 
Really only the Meguires NXT Booster Wax Spray Wax. It dries too white for my taste, and I find that it is messy to use compared to OCW when using directly on paint.



I am using my existing supply in the was bucket with the soap...I find that 6 sprays per 5 gallon pale of suds adds additional lubrication. At least it is not going to waste.



~Darren
 
wannafbody said:
IMO the slickness issue is overplayed-slickness is nice but has absolutely no bearing on whether a product looks great or protects



I absolutely agree with you! Now I dodn't know what everyone else thinks......But I don't really want anyone touching my black paint & marring the crap out of it just to feel how slick it is. Dark colored paint seems to mar so easily.
 
BlkTac05 said:
I absolutely agree with you! Now I dodn't know what everyone else thinks......But I don't really want anyone touching my black paint & marring the crap out of it just to feel how slick it is. Dark colored paint seems to mar so easily.



As it has been mentioned, slick products tend to be "high release" and dirt just rinses off. However, I'm not sure if this is just a correlation and not a causation.



- J
 
JustinTRW said:
As it has been mentioned, slick products tend to be "high release" and dirt just rinses off. However, I'm not sure if this is just a correlation and not a causation.



- J



Now that's "Autopian"! (lol) :getdown
 
WOW, this thread deserves 5 starts :up

I must admit that I really really like the replies. Honesty at its best, and it shows how personal preference really matters. It also shows that NO product line is perfect, and even the best and most reputable brands have more expertise in some areas than others..... In my case, here is my list:





HATE



As far as products, only one (below). I do however hate the fact that as many others I allowed myself to be part of the hype of many products. If only I could recover some of the money..... :furious:



- The only product I hate is GLARE knock out compound (which I still have to report, evaluation coming soon....). The thing works only with rotary at >2000 rpm and a wool pad.... any other combination is a waste of time. 2k rpms with wool? :eek:







DISLIKE



- Poorboys EX: Looks nice, durability is mediocre, application is not easy at all, and it stains. I thought EX was a good product (blend) UNTIL I tried mothers reflections top coat.....



- New Eagle one 20/20: (blue label with orange) I don't know if this was sabotage, but the regarded champion fell hard. This blue / orange streaks like no other glass cleaner. Good cleaning power, but be ready to work it hard, even with a WW or huck towels.



- GLARE tire shine: Nice look, great durability, but messy and almost toxic. Oil based no doubt, slings and stains. Same look is given by the humble mothers FX, similar durability and superior application.





MIXED FEELINGS (work but overhyped, work but for the price they should do more, etc)



In general, our hyped stuff (aprox 90% of the products available): It seems that using boutiques makes one cool, or that admitting the use of retail products make people socially lower, but the majority of the boutique brands and products we hype perform marginally better than the best retail products, and in many cases even lower..... It also seems that just because a brand is good, we think ALL the products from that brand will be good. I already mentioned that even the most reputable brand has areas of expertise, so not all of its products will perform at the same level.



- S100: I have told it several times, but I failed to see what makes this one a favorite here. The humble Collinite 845 looks too close, applies as easy, and will kill S100 in durability :nixweiss



- Sonus SFX-2 polish. The new formula (8 oz) It leaves a nice shine no doubt, but its swirl removing ability is very weak, even with a rotary at 1500 rpm. Even if matched to the sonus SFX white pad it takes out almost no swirls. Same results if using an LC white, propel green, edge green. The humble mothers powerpolish leaves a very close finish in gloss, but takes out swirls much faster and easier.



- NXT tech wax: hyped hyped hyped. Looks nice, but durability stinks. If shopping retail, save $10 and get turtle wax PUG instead, looks better and applies easier



- Zaino sealants:: No denial, they are good, but they are nowhere close to the hype. As good as Z2 pro is, a carnauba lover can immediately see the difference. It is shiny, but the humble Mothers FX Synwax is at least as shiny. Application is tricky.



- WW towels: They work well, but any decent microfiber towel will do as good at drying (the humble walmart microtex is a good example)



- Meguiars #16: Looks nice, is durable but I fail to see what makes it special. Again, Collinite 845 looks at least as good, much easier to aply and remove and loasts longer.



- Clearkote Vanilla Moose: Nice glaze, but any other decent glaze performs the same.







These are the ones I remember fairly well. ;)





Alex
 
Havn't tried a whole lot of products, but:



Most megs products, Not bad, but just run of the mill for me.

SG , wierd shine

Souveran, No durability ay all

Sonus glass cleaner, complete junk
 
I'm new 'round here, but glad to revive this topic for more additions, since I'm about to jump into the Autopia world with both feet (have a PC on the way, and will soon make my first real product line purchase for the PC)



I do find it fascinating that none of the Optimum products are on this list--must really be good stuff, or they're just not as widely used as others.
 
new2mud said:
I'm new 'round here, but glad to revive this topic for more additions, since I'm about to jump into the Autopia world with both feet (have a PC on the way, and will soon make my first real product line purchase for the PC)



I do find it fascinating that none of the Optimum products are on this list--must really be good stuff, or they're just not as widely used as others.



Optimum wasn't as popular back then as it is now, plus most of thier line has been updated since then.
 
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