Poll: Do You Think Applying A Quality Nuba Over A Sealent Detracts From The Finish?

Poll: Do You Think Applying A Quality Nuba Over A Sealent Detracts From The Finish?

  • Yes it does

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  • No it does not

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imported_DieselMDX

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I have a 2006 Acura Mdx Silver right now with zaino z5/z2/cs topped with pinnacle souveran/zymol EG. Do you think i will have a better shine/depth/wetness from the nuba by removing all prior products before applying Swissvax concourso?





People often top a sealent with nuba but in some vehicles I think you are not getting the most from a high nuba by not using it on fresh paint.
 
From personal experiences, it depends on the products you're using. But to apply Swissvax over Zaino would be a complete waste of a high end wax. Get that Zaino off of there, polish to a flawless finish, use the cleaner fluid, then use your Swissvax.
 
Another thing Ive noticed every time, is applying a wax over sealant will reduce slickness. Im not sure I believe in putting a wax over a sealant at all.
 
D&D Auto Detail said:
Another thing Ive noticed every time, is applying a wax over sealant will reduce slickness. Im not sure I believe in putting a wax over a sealant at all.
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How about putting a sealant over a wax?
 
D&D Auto Detail said:
Another thing Ive noticed every time, is applying a wax over sealant will reduce slickness. Im not sure I believe in putting a wax over a sealant at all.
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I agree.



The real key to it is to bring the paint back to a flawless, swirlfree finish, after that it doesn't quite matter what you top it with as far as looks are concerned since you can't make the paint look much deeper then it's perfect pure defect free state of being, my main concern after perfecting the paint would be to use a product that will be durable enough to maintain it long term with proper washing techniques of course....



Personally like Zaino and I don't top it with a Nuba as it's not needed over a sealant.



Josh
 
lovemyes350 said:
How about putting a sealant over a wax?
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No, sealant are designed to bond to the raw clear coat, so anything under it will obstruct and ultimately reduce the longevity of the sealant, that's why it's important to rewash after polishing so as to remove any lubes left from the polish so that the sealant can "stick" to the raw clear coat.
 
lovemyes350 said:
I was thinking more like UPGP on top of NXT 2.0, not a carnauba
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Hard to say whether the UPGP would properly bond to the surface if NXT 2.0 is there. Try it out and let us know...:nixweiss



I always thought that a nuba over a sealant was a waste, why not just use the nuba or sealant straight?
 
I know, but a lot of people also do things wrong. Or what is wrong to some is right to others. Or maybe they dont even consider what they are doing, they just read what someone else is doing so they decided to do it too. What you have to do is experiment with things and really critique it. Do it side by side, compare depth, wetness, beading, sheeting, slickness, etc. Then make a decision for yourself.
 
DieselMDX said:
Made a mistake on the poll question it should read OVER a sealent mods could you please change this?
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i did'nt even notice that, i merly assumed it said over. thanx for bringing that to everyones attention.
 
D&D Auto Detail said:
Thats the way it should be done.
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i only disagree with this because imo just a sealant alone leaves MY car looking sterile. i like knowing there's a durabil product protecting my paint, the sealant, but i like the look of a good carnuba on top of it jmo.
 
blucpe said:
i only disagree with this because imo just a sealant alone leaves MY car looking sterile. i like knowing there's a durabil product protecting my paint, the sealant, but i like the look of a good carnuba on top of it jmo.
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OK, sealants dont have the looks like Carnauba. What sealant are you using, what kind of paint?



The other thing I wonder about is, if you apply a sealant then there is a barrier between the paint and the environment. So when you apply a Carnauba you're applying it on the sealant and not on the paint. So how can it do its job?
 
My answer to the polll is "No". I've had waxes improve sealants, and I've liked using a sealant under a wax instead of a dedicated/matched paint cleaner ....approached both ways, the combos gave me an improved look, nothing detracted at all. But that's just *IMO* and on a few specific paints.



When I tried topping KSG with Meg's #16 (on b/c Mazda silver), it *did* look better to me. The appearance was fine, better than the KSG by itself and at least as good as #16 by *itself*. The finish was slick and beaded nicely...no complaints at all.



But I quit doing it as I'd rather just add more KSG as needed on that particular vehicle (family minivan).



Never thought of topping the other sealants I've tried (various versions of UPP and BF) as they were fine by themselves on the paints I used them on.



I do like using Autoglym SRP (a sorta-sealant AIO) under Souveran on the Jag. I tried it instead of my previous regimen of Pinnacle PCL under Souveran and liked it better (at least on *that* particular, and very weird, paint).
 
I voted totally wrong. I thought you meant does adding the nuba detract from the look of the sealant.



Having sealant under the nuba definitely detracts from the finish. If you just have nuba on your paint it will look deeper and wetter than nuba w/ sealant under it.
 
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