Optimum vs. Menzerna Polishes

I have not tried Optimum but as I have said many times onthis forum Men. PO85RD leaves a finish you hate to add a LSP to!!!!!!
 
Scottwax said:
:nixweiss Poli-Seal may not be as cystal clear in appearance as 106FF but the clarity is close and it has a deeper, richer look that I prefer.
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Wouldn't a better comparison be FPII or 106 topped with FMJ vs straight polish? With Poli-Seals sealant properties don't you have to assume there is some measure of cover-up going on?
 
sevenrd said:
I've used Menzerna IP and FPII, as well as Optimum Polish (I also have OC and OHC, which I haven't cracked the seal on yet.)



I'm obviously in the minority, but I have not had great results from IP and FPII. I've tried both on rotary and PC. German cars, Japanese cars...I've given IP and FPII a 2nd, 3rd, 4th chance and always find myself reaching for something else. After reading all the praise I begin to think I'm doing something wrong...but then all the other polishes I use work as expected. :nixweiss



I don't know. For some reason me and Menzerna don't get along. :(



I may one day try 106ff, but I just bought another bottle of OP along with some OC and OHC. So until those run out...
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Perhaps we can get together sometime and I can show you the ropes??
 
MichaelM said:
Wouldn't a better comparison be FPII or 106 topped with FMJ vs straight polish? With Poli-Seals sealant properties don't you have to assume there is some measure of cover-up going on?
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No, I have used 106FF so I know exactly how it finishes. I also mixed in 30% RMG not only to reduce the dusting but to also give more depth. Poli-Seal comes very close to that look and IMO leaves a base that will enhance the durability of whatever I put over it.



I haven't noticed any particular filling going on with Poli-Seal. On my own car, even with minimal washing this winter, none of the minor hazing it took out after polishing (my paint is very soft!) has come back after around 3 months.
 
tdekany said:
and? what are your thoughts?
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I was a little dissapointed, cause I like a lot of fk1 products. It dried up fast and spit chunks. It did not remove many defects, but it seemed like it filled a little. I was more concerned by the way it spit these clumps. Feels like it needs to be watered down a little. The gloss was good, but not as good as 106ff. 106ff blows it away hands down. I was bummed out a little cause I like there products.
 
rydawg said:
I was a little dissapointed, cause I like a lot of fk1 products. It dried up fast and spit chunks. It did not remove many defects, but it seemed like it filled a little. I was more concerned by the way it spit these clumps. Feels like it needs to be watered down a little. The gloss was good, but not as good as 106ff. 106ff blows it away hands down. I was bummed out a little cause I like there products.
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did it come from a sample bottle?
 
I've been using Menzerna for years and have left most other polishes except for specific work.



Can't speak of Optimum, but seeing that Menzerna of Germany makes some of the finest polishes in the world for not only automotive, but wood, metals, jewelry and also manufacture the best abrasives it's really a no brainer.



Menzerna is a an old and well established firm. They have a very high quality control, manufature unique materials and abrasives. Extensive development staff and labs.



Optimum is a younger company that has to outsource the product since they do not own the manufacturing facilities to make the polishes. Although it's under Optimum design and control, there is no lab, no years of experience etc etc... Calm down, I'm not trying to discredit here. Just what every young company starts off doing. Nothing wrong with that!



Look, every company has to start somewhere, Meguiars did and has developed into one very well respected firm in not only automotive polishes, but mold release agents.



There are polishes for just about every type of finish and type of correction.



So to try to gauge between the two, these are not so much on the same level, but are respectivly one type of polish that was designed for hardend clearcoats such as Ceramiclear and another from PPG and another polish not specific to hardened clearcoats.



So each has it's own specific way of polishing a finish, one for hardened clearcoats, another for regular clearcoats.



Then there are the pads that add all this, speed, type of polisher etc.



Whever you choose, both are quite good seeing all results from others that have used Optimum.



Myself, you'll always see me with Menzerna. And unfortunatly, I'm down to two or three 1 ltr bottles of P085RD.:scared:



Regards,

Deanski
 
I haven't had the chance to use Menzerna yet but isn't it supposed to be the best product to use on Ceramiclear?
 
mose said:
I haven't had the chance to use Menzerna yet but isn't it supposed to be the best product to use on Ceramiclear?
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That's what they say:laugh:

I would say that they are used 90% more on non src paint. It's all good:xyxthumbs
 
mose said:
I haven't had the chance to use Menzerna yet but isn't it supposed to be the best product to use on Ceramiclear?
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It is the ONLY thing to use on hardened clearcoats. Both 106FF and 85RD were designed for just that. Made for Benz/Maybach for the PPG finishes.



Deanski
 
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