ONR after polishing ?

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gav'spurplez

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water/alcohol is used after polishing to clean any oils and/or residue left behind.



does anyone use ONR in a spray bottle to cleanse the surface ?
 
Yes, I sometimes use ONR, but prefer doing a full wash. If you are doing light polishing ONR makes alot of sense. Are you using alcohol before or after ONR?
 
I've used an ONR wash after polishing to clean up the dust followed by hitting each panel with Menzerna Final Inspection prior to applying my LSP. I really like the results (a nice clean, oil free surface). I'm sure a full wash would be equally, if not more effective, but ONR tends to be a little quicker wash/dry for me.



NOTE: When there is heavy polish dust buildup (aka having used M105 and the KB method) breaking out the leaf blower prior to the ONR wash greatly assists in the dust removal process ;).
 
i dont normally clean the surface with anything after polishing, i remove residue as i polish then wipe the entire vehicle with a clean MF.,



i was just wondering if this could be done. a full wash could go quick enough to add it to the process
 
SilverJag said:
Would a full wash eliminate the need for IPA altogether, i.e., removes all polishing oils?
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Yeah, *if* you wash with the right stuff, i.e., something potent enough. Removing the oils from something like M205 is a pretty tall order and *just IME*, ONR won't do that and a mild conventional shampooing probably wouldn't either as those oils can be tough.



Last time I did a post-correction wash, I used AutoInt's "A" and that *did* really clean things up. If I bother doing the wash, I want it to be effective.
 
Accumulator said:
Yeah, *if* you wash with the right stuff, i.e., something potent enough. Removing the oils from something like M205 is a pretty tall order and *just IME*, ONR won't do that and a mild conventional shampooing probably wouldn't either as those oils can be tough.



Last time I did a post-correction wash, I used AutoInt's "A" and that *did* really clean things up. If I bother doing the wash, I want it to be effective.
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Accumulator, thanks for the reply; and yeah- I do agree that M205 oils are a pain to remove. I will give AutosIntl a try :xyxthumbs
 
dschia said:
AutoInt's A is strong stuff! Do you find the paint dull a little after A?
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Note that I've only done this a few times (eh, I only do correction of any kind once in a blue moon these days). No, I didn't see any dulling effect. But if it did dull it a little I bet my next step (ZAIO) took care of that anyhow.



I've never tried "A" after a finish polishing and then going direct to LSP. But I'd be a little surprised if it ever caused any dulling on modern, healthy paint. I'd think twice about using stuff like that on older, potentially fragile, paint anyhow.



Those M205 oils are becoming a pet peeve of mine, even PrepWash wipes aren't always removing them to my satisfaction. I have too much M205 to just switch to something else, but the thought does occur to me.
 
I've been getting to the point that the M205 should just be left for those who want to leave the oils on..

I start to wonder what the point of taking them off is anymore lol
 
Alexshimshimhae said:
I've been getting to the point that the M205 should just be left for those who want to leave the oils on..

I start to wonder what the point of taking them off is anymore lol
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I generally agree, but I've had them cause various issues when left on so I'm leaning towards stripping them off *on my vehicles*.
 
Accumulator said:
Yeah, *if* you wash with the right stuff, i.e., something potent enough. Removing the oils from something like M205 is a pretty tall order and *just IME*, ONR won't do that and a mild conventional shampooing probably wouldn't either as those oils can be tough.



Last time I did a post-correction wash, I used AutoInt's "A" and that *did* really clean things up. If I bother doing the wash, I want it to be effective.
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Thank you for the suggestion Accumulator. Yeah, I do hear you on the M205 oils being a pain to remove, and definitely agree that someway or another they need to be stripped. I understand it has been acknowledged more times than we can count regarding IPA being OK for paint, but I'd rather err on the side of caution.
 
SilverJag said:
I understand it has been acknowledged more times than we can count regarding IPA being OK for paint, but I'd rather err on the side of caution.
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The PrepWash stuff that SuperBee364 and I often use for this is a nice, safe way to go that's much more effective (IME) than IPA. Just can't rely it any of these "safer options" to work with just one go, those oils can be tougher than that.



And (repeating this, but don't want it getting lost in the shuffle..), no, IME products like the various AIOs do *NOT* strip M205 oils. Surpisingly ineffective IME.



Oh, and one more good thing about doing a post-correction wash is the way it cleans off any residual abrasives. Much more effective than wipedowns for me, and it can be surprising how much compound/polish/stuff gets into nooks and crannies even when you think you're being very careful about it. Everything can look fine until the next rainstorm or wash, then it's "uh-oh"...
 
Accumulator said:
...And (repeating this, but don't want it getting lost in the shuffle..), no, IME products like the various AIOs do *NOT* strip M205 oils. Surpisingly ineffective IME.



Oh, and one more good thing about doing a post-correction wash is the way it cleans off any residual abrasives. Much more effective than wipedowns for me, and it can be surprising how much compound/polish/stuff gets into nooks and crannies even when you think you're being very careful about it. Everything can look fine until the next rainstorm or wash, then it's "uh-oh"...
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To add to this a little- although I fully agree that various AIOs will not strip oils (and may even add their own), some specific paintwork cleansers (CG EZ Creme Glaze & Prima Amigo) do remove them rather effectively IME. However, you're absolutely right about all the stuff that may hide in nooks and crannies, and it's just safer to do a wash rather than a paintwork cleanser product (again, IME).
 
SilverJag- Ah, never tried the CG or Prima, good to know that they do strip the oils. To wash or wipe/paint-clean can be a situation-dependent choice, huh? Sometimes one approach is called for, other times the other.
 
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